I think it might be a good idea. We pay to use their roads so why shouldn’t they pay to use ours?
Unfortunately I think £9.99 of the money will be lost in ‘administration fees’ and so will achieve bugger all for the benefit of all of us.
I think it might be a good idea. We pay to use their roads so why shouldn’t they pay to use ours?
Unfortunately I think £9.99 of the money will be lost in ‘administration fees’ and so will achieve bugger all for the benefit of all of us.
Just heard this on the news and had to laugh.Having spent 9 years working for a foreign company the only people who will pay this charge is YOU and YOUR FAMILY
unlike the Great British Road Haulage Industry Europe PASSES costs on to the transport user…the British IMPORTER.This levy will be used to keep civil servants in a
job since this Government hasn’t got the balls to sack them.IT WILL NOT COST EUROPEANS A BRASS CENT…WAKEN UP.
I am with Luke on this,all drivers do is moan,they had the chance to improve their working conditions and pay structure when they did away with log books and brought in tachographs,they could have changed it then,they did not.
With all the new rules and laws that came in,they did nothing,just bent over and took it,the drivers cpc,no extra pay for driving double deck trailers,the boss makes a packet,you do not,mega long trailers,the boss makes a wonga,you do not.
With all the talk at RDC`s,the gasses made from all the talking and false rubbish could inflate 1000 hot air balloons that could go to Sydney and back.
The French drivers blockade the ports and roads,while in the UK,they sneak in an anti-terror law to arrest you for doing the same in the Uk,what did you do to complain about that law,nothing.
Funny how the farmers could block the milk plants?
How is the £10 a day charge going to be collected from the foreign trucks??
switchlogic:
Just out of interest how much exactly do you think they should charge? £25 a day? £50? £100?
If our government had some balls, they could make it a very fare system.
Charge them what they charge us.
Benelux hauliers will be charged about £6.50 per day, roughly 8 euros.
The German hauliers could pay £125 per day, and about the same for the Austrians.
Maybe £80 per day for the French.
Not that it would ever go ahead, But when the Eurocrats heard about the proposal, it would wake the buggers up.
I thought it was proposed at £13 a day? That would be a lot more than a grand a year… £3 a day would cost more to collect than it raises, so it isn’t hard enough a charge compared to what Brit Eurodrivers have to pay already… At least it should be costing THAT much I would have thought!
If you have driven on a French toll road,the tarmac is quiet and smooth,you do not get fatigued,and save on fuel,the toll is worked out on how much fuel you save.
toby1234abc:
It is hundreds of pounds to get through the Frejus and Mount Blanc,cheaper if you buy a return,i used to have to wait an hour for a fax to come through as a payment confirmation,sat there like a lemon,while everyone else is on the way to getting unloaded.
Absolutely nothing to do with this thread, as normal and the only person to blame for sitting waiting for a fax is dear old Toby again.
selby newcomer:
How is the £10 a day charge going to be collected from the foreign trucks??
The same way they collect £8 a day from trucks in the Benelux countries and the same way Hungary do it, etc etc.
Online, Machines in fuel stations even on the boat or at check in on the tunnel. All goes on a database and pings the computer if the tax hasn’t been paid. It should be even easier in this Country, it can ping the computer at the point of exit. Then it’s pay the fine or be impounded.
Winseer:
I thought it was proposed at £13 a day? That would be a lot more than a grand a year… £3 a day would cost more to collect than it raises, so it isn’t hard enough a charge compared to what Brit Eurodrivers have to pay already… At least it should be costing THAT much I would have thought!![]()
I think the idea is if you buy it by the day it costs £10, if you buy a months it will be less and so on. Bit like having to pay more to tax a vehicle for 6 months than a year.
switchlogic:
I just read that story on the BBC and I thought I’d come on here to see what people were saying. I actually really stupidly thought ‘it may stop the old trucknet women moaning about foriegn using our roads for free’. How wrong was I. You’ll just moan its too little instead. Just goes to prove my point that people on this poxy forum are never [zb] happy with anything. £10 a day is a fair amount. For €8 you can drive in Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, Denmark and Sweden.Have a nice day blaming anything from abroad for all your ills like old women over the garden fence.
No need for a response like that, i have no issues with you and enjoy watching your videos but you come on here kick off like that and then wonder why people give you abuse back, just chill out its a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion…
Anyway, i think most people have little faith in the goverment to do what they say there going to do and the fact that if i does happen why has it taken so long to be introduced.
mucker85:
I think it might be a good idea. We pay to use their roads so why shouldn’t they pay to use ours?Unfortunately I think £9.99 of the money will be lost in ‘administration fees’ and so will achieve bugger all for the benefit of all of us.
Your right it won’t benefit Joe or Jean Public, that is not its intention, it will however stop all the moaning RDC minnie’s complaining that Pavlek, Pierre and Jesus drive on our roads for free.
The French do not charge a daily road toll, the operators of the motorways charge you to use them, it is not compulsory.
As Luke said, for €8 you can drive all the way to Malmo or Odense with a bit extra for the MAUT
What it may do is stop the many one off hauliers coming over, they may seek alternative transport, possibly even a British lorry with a reload. Maybe it will stop Wabberers paying £1000 per lorry and just have a dozen or so based here under our operating licence system.
Who wrote, that even we are foreigners whilst abroad. I still class myself as a foreigner and have spent many happy years on the wrong side of the road!
Satisfaction is tipping and loading in Italy without paying a road toll apart from Swiss tax which is not in the EC
To not pay the road toll would mean going from Lons de Saunier to Nantua,then Chambery to dodge the tolls to transit France to get to Italy,nationals all the way,the best places to eat there.
Saaamon:
Anyway, i think most people have little faith in the goverment to do what they say there going to do and the fact that if i does happen why has it taken so long to be introduced.
Because of John Major and his wise decision not to sign all the Maastricht documents blindly and take us completely into the Eurozone and all that entailed, including being a signatory to €8 euros per day on top of country based road duty.
I’m no expert on economics or politics, but I do wonder whether a lot of the problems that we have in this country is because we keep ■■■■■■■ around at the edges of Europe, rather than either going in or getting right out?
I don’t know which one I would prefer - on balance probably go all the way in, but if we’re going to, then let’s do the job properly and have a truly level playing field for everyone, rather than the bumpy council rec which we seem to have currently. Let’s have one central road pricing structure, one central fuel duty, taxation etc, and fund the individual states accordingly, so that over time the economies would converge naturally, rather than the forced way in which various governments are trying to contrive presently.
The other option is to come all the way out, and trade with Europe as any other country. Whether this would lead to the apocalyptic meltdown that some claim, I don’t know, but I suspect not.
At present, the uncertainty is growing about the whole future of Europe & the Euro, and with us and others tinkering on the edge, I can’t see any real progress for many years. Maybe it’s time to either ■■■■ or get off the toilet?
Gary
The whole idea of the euro club
was exactly that, to harmonise all and sundry who was in that club, however it has been proved that it would never ever work, ie the euro money, and its almost total collapse. It would take all of our lifetimes to get everyone on the same boat, eg, eastern european countries who need nearly all of their infracstructure to be rebuilt, railways, buses, airlines etc etc, then because of the economies of each nation, taxes, pensions etc, etc, could never be harmonised, nice thought, but not for at least 100 years.
I believe in fairness, and think everyone should pay for what they need, if you want social security, you should have paid into it, same as healthcare, pensions, child benefit, and not expect to come to britain and expect to get something for nothing, i wonder why the government is noit listening ?
So it goes to say that if a foreign haulier wants to use our roads, they should have to pay, ( even the ex commie bloc countries charge, czech, hungary, romania, bulgaria, etc) i am pleased we are going to charge as well, my only gripe is how long it has taken to implement this, and we still have to wait 3 years, why not ask the germans to do it, it would be up and running in 6 months, but anyway, its a start, and a great one at that…hooray.
switchlogic:
I just read that story on the BBC and I thought I’d come on here to see what people were saying. I actually really stupidly thought ‘it may stop the old trucknet women moaning about foriegn using our roads for free’. How wrong was I. You’ll just moan its too little instead. Just goes to prove my point that people on this poxy forum are never [zb] happy with anything. £10 a day is a fair amount. For €8 you can drive in Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, Denmark and Sweden.Have a nice day blaming anything from abroad for all your ills like old women over the garden fence.
Spot on fella
OK, I’ve been reading these posts. I agree with a levy on johnny foreigner, we have to pay tolls and MAUT and stuff to drive in Euroland.
But, I have two HGV (17t adn 11t) for moving my dear ladies horses around the country. I pay around £300 per year insurance and £320 tax as private HGV. If Her Majesties Government want £1000 off me, then they can Foxtrot Oscar. There is no way I could afford that. My total mileage last year was less than 3000. If I was earning money from it, then I have no objection, this is a hobby and nothing else.
Bah, humbug
Yours with an open mind
Paul
I think you’re all jumping the gun. These are proposals to be brought in in 2015 - election year. The assumption is that the Tories get back in, or if they don’t that the new government carries out the proposals . . . neither of which is certain.
Stan
Saaamon:
switchlogic:
I just read that story on the BBC and I thought I’d come on here to see what people were saying. I actually really stupidly thought ‘it may stop the old trucknet women moaning about foriegn using our roads for free’. How wrong was I. You’ll just moan its too little instead. Just goes to prove my point that people on this poxy forum are never [zb] happy with anything. £10 a day is a fair amount. For €8 you can drive in Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland, Denmark and Sweden.Have a nice day blaming anything from abroad for all your ills like old women over the garden fence.
No need for a response like that, i have no issues with you and enjoy watching your videos but you come on here kick off like that and then wonder why people give you abuse back, just chill out its a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion…
Anyway, i think most people have little faith in the goverment to do what they say there going to do and the fact that if i does happen why has it taken so long to be introduced.
Im sorry but for years one of the main gripes on this forum has been ‘johnny foreigner using our roads for free’, the government make firm plans to change this and bring in a charge comparable to many other European countries and what do you all do, moan that ‘johhny foreigner won’t be paying enough’. You lot will never be happy. Or rather the only thing that does make you happy is having Johnny Foreigner to blame all your ills upon.
I hate this phrase but the ‘reason I dont post here anymore’ is the constant negativity and ■■■■■■■■ about everyone the Trucknet grannies deem worthy of abuse, from Scania drivers, to drivers who spend money on their trucks, to enemy number one Johnny Foreginer. Im glad im not part of British transport any more.
£1000 per year divided by 365 days=£2.73 per day. (If the truck ran for the full 365 days, which is possible.)
Or:
£1000 divided by 260 days=£3.84 per day. (If the truck was a one driver vehicle, driven for 5 days a week, for 52 weeks.)
Take into account the “Admin” costs, hardly seems worth it.
Ken.