Just noticed a few local D13 Volvo engines running camshafts just the like the one above with the threadstarter. No apparent reason and no backup from Volvo…7,000 euros to repair a 2007 truck(3,800 euros for the camshaft alone). Has anyone else had these experiences…and is there any backup from Volvo?
Hi Riverstick how’s thing’s?
We have an 07 Scania 380 EGR which broke a cam in the engine last month, 
There’s a lot of controversy regarding camshafts at the moment, in particular ■■■■■■■ with its ISX engine, which are wiping out cams like there’s no tomorrow, it’s all about tolerances apparently, everything is so tight that they can’t get enough film strength from the oil and one minute they’re fine, the next they lose a lobe or two, crazy stuff 
ellies dad:
Hi Riverstick how’s thing’s?
We have an 07 Scania 380 EGR which broke a cam in the engine last month,
Hey Matt…I thought Scanias never gave trouble!..Apparently the various manufacturers are saying the valve clearances need to be adjusted more regularly in comparison to older engines. Not sure if this is the answer to all these problems either…time will tell I’m sure.
newmercman:
There’s a lot of controversy regarding camshafts at the moment, in particular ■■■■■■■ with its ISX engine, which are wiping out cams like there’s no tomorrow, it’s all about tolerances apparently, everything is so tight that they can’t get enough film strength from the oil and one minute they’re fine, the next they lose a lobe or two, crazy stuff
Yes…I’ve heard there is a lot of controversy stateside about the ■■■■■■■ ISX,but I though it was more to do with the EGR system as opposed to the camshaft. There seems to be a big hole left in the marketplace after Caterpillar departed from it
Coming back onto this,we haven’t found any reason why it happened.
Nothing in the oil,oil galleries open, no dirt, unexplainable.
When they are out of their 2 year drive line warranty, it seems to be that you are on your own.
However we had in the past, a good back-up and support van Volvo with broken I-shift, they came halfway.
But with the camshafts nobody wants to know.
But we still believe in Volvo, and if I look at more than 40 years with Volvo and with more than 1000 Volvo’s bought new, they have been very economical buy over the years.
They are more expensive to buy, but last much longer, without slowly falling to bits.
But and there is always a but, the F12 and the first series FH12 where the best ones.
It may be my eyesight that’s defective? But there does seem to be some blue on the cam follower to the right. Could be that the cam has not been case hardened properly. I’m personally not a fan of these extended oil changes that manufacturers quote, reckon it’s false economy. Oil is certainly not cheap, but much better value than an engine rebuild. 
my fh13 500 just done the same on sat
went to start after being parked on friday night,started it up let it tick over(did check it for oil before sterting)starting making funny noise thought it was fan belts put it in workshop belts ok lisren to noise from top end pulled off rocker box and their it was roller on end [zb]
always use castrol super and change oil 30000kms
just had quote from volvo of £3750 to supply and fit new camshaft and rollers with a 2 yr warranty have looked a getting another camshaft cant find one anywhere in the www so needs to be dealer part onlt your thoughts please?
TRAILERS1:
just had quote from volvo of £3750 to supply and fit new camshaft and rollers with a 2 yr warranty have looked a getting another camshaft cant find one anywhere in the www so needs to be dealer part onlt your thoughts please?
Thats a good price, very cheap as the camshaft for a 400 is Euro 3060,- and the roll complete Euro 429,- from Volvo.
Make sure they immidiatly change the oil + filters after the repair so that you don’t get rubbish in the Turbo bearings.
2 year warrenty is ok, but would be only added value if they don’t mount them correctly, they last general much longer.
Good luck
this work is from volvo trucks direct all inclusive and warranty as well
tried a few companys but cant get near price one volvo dealer in england quote £5650 for same job
needs to be sorted no point in it sitting in yard not earning again
TRAILERS1:
this work is from volvo trucks direct all inclusive and warranty as well
tried a few companys but cant get near price one volvo dealer in england quote £5650 for same job
needs to be sorted no point in it sitting in yard not earning again
If it doesn’t turn it doesn’t earn, so yes I would do it, and very sure for that price, Phoned around in the UK and on the continent but that’s the prices we paid + labour, that quote of GBP 5.650,- is closer to the mark we paid.
The waranty is the cherry on the top in the price they quoted.
There seem to be no other supplier other than Volvo.
Sour money and nothing to show for.
Saw a local operator have a camshaft failure…Volvo charged him 7,000 euros to fix…6 weeks later the truck ran a main bearing…Volvo said it was swarf/dirt in the galleries after the camshaft failure…again fixed with a healthy bill to boot…two weeks later,it gave camshaft trouble again…20,000 euros spent already on a five year old tractor unit,and still off the road
Riverstick:
ellies dad:
Hi Riverstick how’s thing’s?
We have an 07 Scania 380 EGR which broke a cam in the engine last month,Hey Matt…I thought Scanias never gave trouble!..Apparently the various manufacturers are saying the valve clearances need to be adjusted more regularly in comparison to older engines. Not sure if this is the answer to all these problems either…time will tell I’m sure.
I know the Merc get’s the valve clearance reset at the first service,not sure if it has been done since. Must check next month when it’s due back in Camolin.
I understand that some Companies keep there Trucks for 10 and more Years and have a Fleet with Analog Tachos.Just dont like to change,buying all the Equipment and Software for Digi Tacho and doing expensiv Training for it as long as lrries run well.But once is finish,for most of em.
But no.It dont has to be.
There were “Saurer” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurer
They went bankrupt,Mercedes bought it and everything went for Auction.
Now,a Workshop in Austria bought the Machinery to build and rebuild Truck Engines. He can fix your Crankshaft,drills your Cilinder,or fixes just anything.
Last i sah him he fixed a Engine of a Sauerer where Cylinder was loos.He had to drill the Block to make the Hole round and fit oversize Cylinder.He swapped a Landrover Engine to a Mercedes 240 Diesel with same Landrover Gearbox which needed re-constructing end of Engine,Front of gearbox and Clutch Disc as no one is for sell which fits on Merc Engine and goes on to Landrover Gearbox.
He also had the Engines of Pedrazza in his Workshop to fix. prc.at/
Now,Mr. Schwaerzler may not speak that well English and a Visit to him to get in Contact were helpfull,as he leaves anywhy in a Beautivul Spot,just right for a Holiday,or Park the Trailer between Wolfurt and Dornbirn and drive with Unit up to him.
Isnt just around the Corner,but he will have to get Physical Contact with you to do Work for you,and you dont have to do that long Journey if a simple Mending has to be done.But if its compleceted repair you will do to keep it running,then its him.
Just google for “Kfz-Werkstätte Schwärzler Helmut” on www.Google.at
We have a 2006 FM13-400 I-Shift (just in time delivered to be analog) with approx 500k on the clock.
Last week the engine started to make an hard knocking noise, and the driver thought main bearings where gone.
It went up to our workshop asked to lift the valve cover to check for damaged pump injectors and if nothing wrong than to drop the sump.
We had in the past an engine that dropped a bolt off a main bearing, however when they lifted the valve cover the exhaust site camshaft was damaged and the cam of the 5th cilinder exhaust valve was heavily scored.
When we started the engine to check of it got lubrication enough, it appeared that the roller was not rolling.
we stopped the engine and when we felt the roller there was a lot of play on it, like if the bearing was collapsed.
The scoring on the camshaft was not blue (starvation of lubrication) but more like the hardening had dissapeared.
I have seen things like this before on trucks running on LPG, but never on a diesel truck.
I just wonder if anybody had this experience with the Volvo 13-400 before?
We have a lot of them 13litre engines and we have very little problems with them, many are Fleet truck so drivers are changing over the trucks, so general more abuse than 1 driver to 1 vehicle.
Hey frans, there are 3 FM 12 in Erp you can have back, analogue tacho, low mileage, well looked after, looking to swap for 3 FH12.
Not enough room for 3 weeks away 
caledoniandream:
We have a 2006 FM13-400 I-Shift (just in time delivered to be analog) with approx 500k on the clock.
Mine was a 420 so I am safe 
Have your motors ever been run on that strange biodiesel that the Germans used in Salzgitter?
Stuart no FH12’s with a silo compressor, so no good to swap.
Malc, we have been running on anything that would burn 
but a the moment edible oils are more expensive than diesel.
That time we where running on refined Rapeseed oil, was fine under normal tempertures, but a soon as the temp was dropping it caused real headache.
In the UK we never touched anything like it, was heavily subsidised on the continent to promote to hauliers to run on renewable sources.
In the UK they do their uttermost best to kill any operator, while general on the continent governements try to be helpfull, with subsidised diesel (Dutch purple diesel) reduction on taxes if you run you reefer of your truck engine, via hydraulics or generators.etc.driving the reefers with Euro 4 or 5 engines instead of a black smoking 2 or 3 cilinder diesel with no euro rating
They should realise Transport is the Motor of the Country, kill it and you have to push it al by yourself!
I would do an oil analysis and check for cross contamination of fuel or coolant, fuel is, as you know, a spirit and will break down oil, glycol in antifreeze will attack zinc, zinc is one of the primary coatings used in metal to metal contact surfaces within an engine. It could be a leaky injector cup on that cylinder only so that the contamination is diluted by the time it reaches the rest of the engine, but still strong enough to cause damage at source