FLM And Abusive Language

Young FLM at our place has been heard several times raising his voice (Very Loud) and swearing.Sounds the same as the second part of James Hunt !

Some drivers just accept it, others moan he is against the “Code of Conduct” for our company.

Our union reps are useless, only wake up if it affects them directly.

I rang the police yesterday and they have stated he has comitted a public order offence, so then, what do I do ?

Ring HR, at HQ and inform them ?

Just leave it until he gets punched etc, don’t know what to do, keep quiet or report him ?

Cheers for any advice.

I rang the police yesterday and they have stated he has comitted a public order offence, so then, what do I do ?

let them deal with it if that be the case

HTH

I would tell his Mum… :unamused:

report it to someone further up the chain, if that cant be done then a swift hard slap round his earole should do the trick

newmercman:
I would tell his Mum… :unamused:

So then you go into work and somebody starts to rant at you, swearing, you accept it, :unamused:

This is a form of bullying and should not be tolerated, report it higher up the food chain

The driver he aimed his verbal bile to is a agency driver, who to be fair said to him, “You can’t talk to me like that, why have you done that ?”

The FLM replied,

“[zb] Off”

Not nice.

Driver-Once-More:
This is a form of bullying and should not be tolerated, report it higher up the food chain

get him to report it

The people who have had this language directed at them are the ones to lodge a formal complaint, if they don’t feel able/comfortable to do it by themselves then they should do it collectively and, if possible those who have heard these outbursts should support their colleagues as witnesses. That’s the accepted formal way to go about things, especially if there is a recognised union on site. This option will most likely end up with a corrosive atmosphere if all parties remain in post.

Informally you could have word with one of his (the abusive FLMs) managerial colleagues and see if they can have an “off the record” mentoring chat with him as I would not be surprised if, being young, he is trying to hard to impress, is getting very stressed and the drivers are his only vent. This option doesn’t necessarily change matters but does show that an opportunity to improve has been made. If this doesn’t work then it’s back to the formal route.

He may not even realise just how badly he is behaving, the simple reality is if a driver directed abuse, as you describe towards a manager then they would in all probability be making a one way walk through the gate.

Had something similar at our place a few years back and the place changed overnight when the manager was left in place with people openly recording any conversation with the individual concerned.

The days when bosses talked to drivers like that should be long gone, He sounds like the type of jumped up little [zb] that I cannot stand, and he needs one or two things explained to him, I wouldn’t bother the Police to waste their time on him, a more direct old fashioned approach is needed, so get him on his own where there are no witnesses or cameras, and suggest and point out to him that his behaviour is unacceptable, until he sees the error of his ways and decides to agree with you. :wink:

Rooster:

newmercman:
I would tell his Mum… :unamused:

So then you go into work and somebody starts to rant at you, swearing, you accept it, :unamused:

I never said that :unamused:

So you get called a ■■■■ and your reaction is to phone the Police?

All this namby pamby being offended and whining about on the internet is alien to me :open_mouth:

Simple way to deal with this, MTFU and tell the scroat that if he abuses you, he’ll end up on his arse, one warning, the next time, bang :bulb:

The only reason people act this way is because spineless people let them :unamused:

I was in somewhere the other month, on the agency and the fella in charge rang me up and started ranting and raving on the cab phone. I hung up on him, drove back to the yard, parked the truck up and got my gear and walked out!

as soon as he realised what was going on, he started having another do, and was still ranting and raving as i rode out of the gate on my motorbike!

A mile up the road I rang the agency and informed them, that i was not going to be spoken too like that so i left! they stuck by me, still paid me for the day AND billed the company in question!

im led to believe the ■■■■ in question is now on a final warning from upper management and is as timid as a mouse! :laughing: :laughing:

if your on the agency mate, vote with your feet!

B…

newmercman:

Rooster:

newmercman:
I would tell his Mum… :unamused:

So then you go into work and somebody starts to rant at you, swearing, you accept it, :unamused:

I never said that :unamused:

So you get called a [zb] and your reaction is to phone the Police?

All this namby pamby being offended and whining about on the internet is alien to me :open_mouth:

Simple way to deal with this, MTFU and tell the scroat that if he abuses you, he’ll end up on his arse, one warning, the next time, bang :bulb:

Yeah, course he would…internet hardmen. :unamused:

del trotter:

newmercman:

Rooster:

newmercman:
I would tell his Mum… :unamused:

So then you go into work and somebody starts to rant at you, swearing, you accept it, :unamused:

I never said that :unamused:

So you get called a [zb] and your reaction is to phone the Police?

All this namby pamby being offended and whining about on the internet is alien to me :open_mouth:

Simple way to deal with this, MTFU and tell the scroat that if he abuses you, he’ll end up on his arse, one warning, the next time, bang :bulb:

Yeah, course he would…internet hardmen. :unamused:

Not so, it has nothing to do with being a hardman, I don’t claim to be anything of the sort. However I will not accept being spoken to like that and would make my feelings quite clear on that to the abuser.

That doesn’t make me a hardman, internet or otherwise. The fact that saying that I would tell the abuser to watch his lip or he would regret it brings out a damning response is a sad thing.

So is the fact that when confronted with such an issue the OP asks for advice on the internet and calls the Police.

Have we lost the ability to think for ourselves?

Are we at the point that a bit of ■■■■ taking or foul language offends us that much?

Internet hardmen, lol…plenty that arent on the net think they can do the biz…no need for anyone to have that thrown at them in the work place…i certainly wouldnt live with it.

del trotter:

newmercman:

Rooster:

newmercman:
I would tell his Mum… :unamused:

So then you go into work and somebody starts to rant at you, swearing, you accept it, :unamused:

I never said that :unamused:

So you get called a [zb] and your reaction is to phone the Police?

All this namby pamby being offended and whining about on the internet is alien to me :open_mouth:

Simple way to deal with this, MTFU and tell the scroat that if he abuses you, he’ll end up on his arse, one warning, the next time, bang :bulb:

Yeah, course he would…internet hardmen. :unamused:

I was trying to be tactful and subtle but that’s what I really meant also :smiling_imp: , so I suppose you think I’m an internet hardman also eh del?
OK! let’s have a re.think and be all PC about it, we’ll start by writing a letter to the editor of “The Guardian”, or maybe a petition, then we could embark on a leaflet campaign, that may work, if not we will recommend to the MD of the co. that his TM should be maybe offered some counselling, or better still all the drivers the MD and the offending TM could all join hands in a ring and do some chanting therapy.

You rang the plolice!
For [zb] sake get a grip, if he talks to you in a manner that cant deal with walk away, if he is talking to someone else it’s up to them to man up.
I really can’t believe you called the cops cus someone swore, un[zb]believable.

I don`t think I would be able to handle anyone swearing loudly at me…it would probably set my self harming off again :cry:

Can I ask what might seem a stupid question-what’s a FLM?

GOG47:
Can I ask what might seem a stupid question-what’s a FLM?

■■■■■■■ loudmouthed moron?? :laughing: