puntabrava:
Janos:
So stop blaming western foreign policy and polluting this forum with paranoid idealistic nonsense and open your eyes to the reality.Good post that.
Putin suffers from lead deficiency.
Go for it by just using typical Sun reader logic in sending in the RAF to carry out a surgical strike to create ‘regime change’ and then see what happens. 
Nobody buys the Sun in Liverpool.
Janos:
Nobody buys the Sun in Liverpool.
You’ve obviously found some common ground on the issue of trying to push the EU and NATO into Russia’s backyard. 
Carryfast I thought you were Dead, Oh no that’s just an idealistic Dream. 
Carryfast:
Janos:
Nobody buys the Sun in Liverpool.You’ve obviously found some common ground on the issue of trying to push the EU and NATO into Russia’s backyard.
Carryfast, I don’t think you would have to look too hard amongst the flip flops to find somebody whose brother or daughter in Poland or Hungary was shot by the Russians as they fought against them, fully expecting intervention by the West. We let them down then, we should not let history repeat itself.
Soon be easter
switchlogic:
I blame British Leyland
what for? The TR7 or Red Robbo?
emwmarine:
switchlogic:
I blame British Leylandwhat for? The TR7 or Red Robbo?
Oh no, you’ve just mentioned the unions, that’ll be another 7 pages of repetition then
Janos:
Carryfast:
Janos:
Nobody buys the Sun in Liverpool.You’ve obviously found some common ground on the issue of trying to push the EU and NATO into Russia’s backyard.
Carryfast, I don’t think you would have to look too hard amongst the flip flops to find somebody whose brother or daughter in Poland or Hungary was shot by the Russians as they fought against them, fully expecting intervention by the West. We let them down then, we should not let history repeat itself.
To be fair there certainly would have been plenty of Hungarians,Finns and Estonians amongst others shot by the Russians while fighting against them with their German Allies in WW2.
As for the post war stitch up suggest you read up on this small matter.IE slavic loyalties always change with the wind depending on the highest bidder.Just as in the case of WW1.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foibe_killings
Here’s a clue ‘we’ didn’t ‘let them down’ it was just a case of old historic scores being settled and we had to cut them all loose or Russia takes the lot in the form of a guaranteed lose WW3 Scenario.Bearing in mind that I know of at least one case of a Brit squaddie who survived WW2 from North Africa to VE day in Northern Italy who was then blown up by an anti tank mine planted by the Yugoslavs in the post war fighting between the Italians and the Russian backed Yugoslav forces for Istria.
Followed by a policy of mutually assured destruction when we’d built up our nuclear stocks enough to ‘arguably’ be able to saturate Russia enough to make that threat a viable one,assuming Russia decided to go for us.
Trust me what we’re seeing now is a NATO propaganda campaign.Being used to justify a US defence policy of ‘containment’,which puts western Europe at more risk of an un winnable conventional war with Russia,to reduce its domestic liabilities regarding that previous Cold War MAD strategy,which was proven to work.
bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22962873
Hence the current idea of trying to push the EU and NATO into Russia’s backyard.Which effectively carries exactly the same risk as the West attempting to tear up the Yalta and Potsdam agreements and face down Russia would have done.
While if we really didn’t want to ‘let anyone down’ then we obviously would have supported Germany in 1914 instead of Russia.Bearing in mind that Poland fought on both sides at the same time in that little argument.
The scary thing being how many of the sheep are buying that propaganda campaign as opposed to listening and voting for UKIP in that regard.
Just wondered …has she had her car fixed yet? 
Its in being done at the moment,I showed her the forum I think she was a bit surprised at the number and the direction of the responses,but as annoyed as she was about the damage to the car I don’t think she blames president putin.
amamdada:
Its in being done at the moment,I showed her the forum I think she was a bit surprised at the number and the direction of the responses,but as annoyed as she was about the damage to the car I don’t think she blames president putin.
Nor do I its Obama,the EU,NATO and Cameron who are the problem in this case by selling us out to the east Euros.On the flawed premise that we can maintain the peace between the west and Russia by moving NATO into Russia’s back yard.While saving a few bob in wages by letting the east Euros do all the work. 
Carryfast:
amamdada:
Its in being done at the moment,I showed her the forum I think she was a bit surprised at the number and the direction of the responses,but as annoyed as she was about the damage to the car I don’t think she blames president putin.Nor do I its Obama,the EU,NATO and Cameron who are the problem in this case by selling us out to the east Euros.On the flawed premise that we can maintain the peace between the west and Russia by moving NATO into Russia’s back yard.While saving a few bob in wages by letting the east Euros do all the work.
Christ you can’t knock him back can you?
Should change his username to Duracell.
lol
What the hell has Obama got to do with the EU opening up it’s borders that allow an influx of cheap labour ? Oh 'ang on as I’m sure someone will offer a protracted statement as to why (won’t matter for long as we’re all going to get vaporised) 
Please Mr Putin, make sure the first nuke you lob at us hits those theivin scumbags in Parliament)
edit … and the second one at Brussels please
amamdada:
Its in being done at the moment,I showed her the forum I think she was a bit surprised at the number and the direction of the responses,but as annoyed as she was about the damage to the car I don’t think she blames president putin.
Nice one
raymundo:
What the hell has Obama got to do with the EU opening up it’s borders that allow an influx of cheap labour ? Oh 'ang on as I’m sure someone will offer a protracted statement as to why
Please Mr Putin, make sure the first nuke you lob at us hits those theivin scumbags in Parliament)edit … and the second one at Brussels please
Obama is just the latest representative of US defence policy.Which as I said is all about the expansion of the EU and by implication NATO into Russia’s back yard.The east Euros obviously wanting all the benefits of that as payback in terms of exploiting the undercutting advantages provided by their cheaper labour and taking advantage of all the EU subsidies payed to them by the mugs in western Europe.
What ■■ sorry CF but your arguments are going way over my head as I don’t have a clue as to what you mean so as they say on Dragons Den … I’m out !! From up here in the north of Scotland I shall just wait to see the mushroom cloud from down south and say ‘‘■■■■ me, he was right’’
raymundo:
What ■■ sorry CF but your arguments are going way over my head From up here in the north of Scotland I shall just wait to see the mushroom cloud from down south and say ‘’[zb] me, he was right’’