Fitting marker lights

Want to fit a few addittional lights to the front of the cab(DAFXF) just want to fit small Blue or Amber lights to front grill and possibly some under bumper. But not very good with electrics, how do i wire them all up so they come on with the sidelights, also how do you wire up the Red markers that you can fit on the edge of the rear cab spoiler!! sorry might seem a dumb question :unamused:

just take a feed off of any side light bulb wire, a clue on the DAF, any lights are yellow wires for the live.

if they are LED, be aware that they have a positive and a negative, if you wire it up and it does ot work, swap the wires over :smiley:

do i then just daisy chain them all together, or do all the lights have to be wired separately :question:

Daisy chain is fine, make sure you do good water proof joints, will save aggro in the long run…

For gawds sake do NOT use scotchblocks!!

didnt realise trying to buy a few markers lights was so difficult!!! are these ok for the front grill?? Saw these on the CDC site;
store.truckstuff.co.uk/_4BEE56B … l&pid=6763
What do others use & where did you buy them?

Btw, you cant display blue and green lights (I think) at the front of a vehicle - I got pulled by the police for having 2 little blue lights at the front of my car :blush:

I thought you could so long as they dont flash, it has been discussed on here before and i am sure that was the general consensus. If not then a lot of truckers are running illegally as i see many about with blue LED’s etc on the front of their truck :exclamation: :confused:

DAF95XF:
Btw, you cant display blue and green lights (I think) at the front of a vehicle - I got pulled by the police for having 2 little blue lights at the front of my car :blush:

well, that particular copper obviously didn’t get a jump the night before, because he was in the wrong.

Pecjam has almost got it right.

you are allowed them on the front of the vehicle as long as they don’t flash, AND the outer marker lights as fitted by the manufacturer (side light in headlamp and top cab marker light) must be white, you can have any other colour you like on the front apart from red.

hope this finally clears up this argumant (probably won’t though :confused: )

by the look of this blue lights are allowed as long as they dont flash but the HAVE to be disconnected when going for MOT or its a fail.

any colour at the front has to be disconnected for MOT but can be connected up agin after passing (if it passes :laughing: ) clear LEDS do not have to be disconnected and can stay wired up

or so im told

sam

the blue marker lights in the lobar and in the spotlamps and the headboard markers are perfectly legal and DO NOT have to be disconnected for MoT, however, the sidelight marker, in this case, the ones just above the indicator lamp and also the markers in each end of the sunvisor would have to be changed back to white for it to pass.

i have sent trucks with blue sidelight bulbs in the extra spotlamps on the bars for MoT and never had a problem

oh i was told that the LEDs in the lightbar and the side markers had to be disconnected and that the spots were ok, maybe they are just over cautious here :laughing: :laughing:

Mr Shuttle speaks the truth! :sunglasses:

You are not allowed any blue lights on the front of your car as people may think you’re a police car & you could be done for impersonating a cop. Nothing to do with whether they flash or not as that doesn’t matter.

However you are allowed on a truck as no1 would mistake a truck for a police car!!!

pecjam23:
I thought you could so long as they dont flash, it has been discussed on here before and i am sure that was the general consensus.

As is normal with “heard it down the pub”, the general concensus is wrong as is pretty much every single post in here saying you can have blue/green etc because “it’s fitted to a lorry”.

Under UK law only the following is legal:

Forward facing: white and amber
Rearward facing: red and amber.
Side marker lights may be amber or split white/red with the red facing rearwards.
With the exception of direction indicators and stop lamps, all lamps must display a steady light.

Blue lights are only for use by authorised emergency vehicles.
Green flashing beacons for use by authorised doctors.
Amber beacons for service vehicles such as breakdown.
Red beacon - unassigned. Open use.

For those who actually want the facts instead of what they want to hear…

Statutory Instrument 1989 No. 1796
The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989
PART II

REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE FITTING OF LAMPS, REFLECTORS, REAR MARKINGS AND DEVICES

Colour of light shown by lamps and reflectors
11.–(1) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing a red light to the front, except-

(a) a red and white chequered domed lamp, or a red and white segmented mast-mounted warning beacon, fitted to a fire service control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(b) a side marker lamp or a side retro reflector;
(c) retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of-

(i) a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;
(ii) a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination; or
(iii) an invalid carriage; or
(d) a traffic sign.
(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except-

(a) amber light from a direction indicator or side marker lamp;
(b) white light from a reversing lamp;
(c) white light from a work lamp;
(d) light to illuminate the interior of a vehicle;
(e) light from an illuminated rear registration plate;
(f) light for the purposes of illuminating a taxi meter;
(g) in the case of a bus, light for the purposes of illuminating a route indicator;
(h) blue light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to a police control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(i) white light from a red and white chequered domed lamp, or a red and white segmented mast-mounted warning beacon, fitted to a fire service control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(j) green light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to an ambulance control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(k) blue light from a warning beacon or rear special warning lamp fitted to an emergency vehicle, or from any device fitted to a vehicle used for police purposes;
(l) amber light from a warning beacon fitted to-

(i) a road clearance vehicle;
(ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse;
(iii) a breakdown vehicle;
(iv) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle;
(v) a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 m;
(vi) a vehicle used for the purposes of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(viii) a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act;
(ix) a vehicle used for ■■■■■■ purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph;
(x) a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels;
(xi) a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying;
(xii) a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty;
(m) green light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle used by a medical practitioner registered by the General Medical Council (whether with full, provisional or limited registration);
(n) yellow light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle for use at airports;

Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices
16. No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with-
(a) a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or
(b) a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

Emergency Vehicle Definition

An emergency vehicle is classed as a vehicle used:

  • for police purposes (but not necessarily a police vehicle, e.g. search and rescue)
  • for fire brigade purposes (but not necessarily a fire brigade vehicle)
  • for ambulance purposes (but not necessarily an ambulance vehicle, e.g. mountain rescue)
  • as an ambulance for moving sick, injured or disabled people
  • by a specialist company for fire salvage work
  • by the Forestry Commission for fire fighting
  • by local councils for fire fighting
  • for bomb disposal
  • for nuclear accidents
  • by the RAF mountain rescue
  • by the National Blood Service
  • by HM Coastguard
  • for mine rescue
  • by the RNLI for launching lifeboats
  • for moving around human organs
  • by Revenue and Customs for serious crime

tyler4164:
You are not allowed any blue lights on the front of your car as people may think you’re a police car & you could be done for impersonating a cop.
However you are allowed on a truck as no1 would mistake a truck for a police car!!!

No you are not. Bomb disposal, fire engines and City of London armoured vehicles use blue lights.

Conor:

tyler4164:
You are not allowed any blue lights on the front of your car as people may think you’re a police car & you could be done for impersonating a cop.
However you are allowed on a truck as no1 would mistake a truck for a police car!!!

No you are not. Bomb disposal, fire engines and City of London armoured vehicles use blue lights.

Well the copper i was talking too about this must of been lying then!!!

Conor:

pecjam23:
I thought you could so long as they dont flash, it has been discussed on here before and i am sure that was the general consensus.

As is normal with “heard it down the pub”, the general concensus is wrong as is pretty much every single post in here saying you can have blue/green etc because “it’s fitted to a lorry”.

Under UK law only the following is legal:

Forward facing: white and amber
Rearward facing: red and amber.
Side marker lights may be amber or split white/red with the red facing rearwards.
With the exception of direction indicators and stop lamps, all lamps must display a steady light.

Blue lights are only for use by authorised emergency vehicles.
Green flashing beacons for use by authorised doctors.
Amber beacons for service vehicles such as breakdown.
Red beacon - unassigned. Open use.

For those who actually want the facts instead of what they want to hear…

Statutory Instrument 1989 No. 1796
The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989
PART II

REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE FITTING OF LAMPS, REFLECTORS, REAR MARKINGS AND DEVICES

Colour of light shown by lamps and reflectors
11.–(1) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing a red light to the front, except-

(a) a red and white chequered domed lamp, or a red and white segmented mast-mounted warning beacon, fitted to a fire service control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(b) a side marker lamp or a side retro reflector;
(c) retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of-

(i) a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;
(ii) a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination; or
(iii) an invalid carriage; or
(d) a traffic sign.
(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except-

(a) amber light from a direction indicator or side marker lamp;
(b) white light from a reversing lamp;
(c) white light from a work lamp;
(d) light to illuminate the interior of a vehicle;
(e) light from an illuminated rear registration plate;
(f) light for the purposes of illuminating a taxi meter;
(g) in the case of a bus, light for the purposes of illuminating a route indicator;
(h) blue light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to a police control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(i) white light from a red and white chequered domed lamp, or a red and white segmented mast-mounted warning beacon, fitted to a fire service control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(j) green light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to an ambulance control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(k) blue light from a warning beacon or rear special warning lamp fitted to an emergency vehicle, or from any device fitted to a vehicle used for police purposes;
(l) amber light from a warning beacon fitted to-

(i) a road clearance vehicle;
(ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse;
(iii) a breakdown vehicle;
(iv) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle;
(v) a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 m;
(vi) a vehicle used for the purposes of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(viii) a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act;
(ix) a vehicle used for ■■■■■■ purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph;
(x) a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels;
(xi) a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying;
(xii) a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty;
(m) green light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle used by a medical practitioner registered by the General Medical Council (whether with full, provisional or limited registration);
(n) yellow light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle for use at airports;

Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices
16. No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with-
(a) a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or
(b) a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

Emergency Vehicle Definition

An emergency vehicle is classed as a vehicle used:

  • for police purposes (but not necessarily a police vehicle, e.g. search and rescue)
  • for fire brigade purposes (but not necessarily a fire brigade vehicle)
  • for ambulance purposes (but not necessarily an ambulance vehicle, e.g. mountain rescue)
  • as an ambulance for moving sick, injured or disabled people
  • by a specialist company for fire salvage work
  • by the Forestry Commission for fire fighting
  • by local councils for fire fighting
  • for bomb disposal
  • for nuclear accidents
  • by the RAF mountain rescue
  • by the National Blood Service
  • by HM Coastguard
  • for mine rescue
  • by the RNLI for launching lifeboats
  • for moving around human organs
  • by Revenue and Customs for serious crime

Nowhere in the lighting regulations does it state that additional lights can only be amber or white at the front. The front positional lamps have to be either white or yellow, which on a truck are 2 top and 2 bottom lamps. It only specifies that no red lights at the front and no white lights at the rear.

Blue lamps are perfectly legal as an addition, as are green. A non flashing blue marker light is not the same as a warning beacon. If you think a marker light and a warning beacon is the same then I seriously hope you never have to tow a large load.

Most drivers i know get there leds from the trailer shop foc of course. Red lights up the back of the cab are very tricky to get right and tidy,do the grill first ,this will give you experience/confidence. Block connect your wiring and cable tie/ductape where possible. If a wire shakes on the move chances are it wil break sooner rather than later.
White/orange lights look best up front imo.

i knew one of the anti blue light brigade would bring this thread to life :smiley:

btw conor mines just been for test with 2 kelsa bars with blue leds fitted and no problems at all

On the other hand if you have them live with your lights on and a bulb goes you could get pulled but if you have them on a indipendent switch it could and I only say could save you the hassel of getting pulled at night till you get the bulb sorted :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:
Just a thought