Does anyone else believe as I do that the guy who designed the tank/filler assembly on MAN trucks should be made to stand out in the freezing cold wind and rain and actually fill a few of the blighters?
Of all the components on a modern truck, this is probably the simplest bit and they`ve obviously entrusted to design of it to an utter, utter moron.
One might reasonably think that one could insert a nozzle, click it on and…it would fill up without the need to have it on the slowest click and set at a jaunty angle, just poised to pop off and spray diesel everywhere…all over me flippin trousers and shoes.
Rant not over. I`m still mad! Anti-siphon my harse.
I have always found Scania units a bit daft when filling them up at a truck stop without a canopy in the rain. The rain goes straight down the front of the trailer and directly into the diesel tank. What a clever design.
Anyone found any diesel pumps on which the lever lock actually works? That is if you can get anywhere near the pumps for drivers popping in for a quick coffee and too bone idle to walk from the parking area.
I sympathise, our company have fitted anti syphon gadgets in the fuel tank necks, the pumps click off with a good 10 gallons left to go in each side and we have to hold the thing in the wind and rain and believe me it’s a lot colder and freezing here in winter.
trubster:
I have always found Scania units a bit daft when filling them up at a truck stop without a canopy in the rain. The rain goes straight down the front of the trailer and directly into the diesel tank. What a clever design.
Don’t park as straight on the pump kick the unit in or out slightly and it won’t happen
On my Scania its a pain unlocking the cap, when it was refurbed and had a new bed they made it a tad too close to the filler tank and the bloody tank is tiny
Well they no longer load or tip their own nor sheet and rope their own, nor change their own gears, nor find their own route let alone change their own punctures, why would you expect 'em to have the nous to wedge a bloody stick in the filler trigger and keep out the way of the minute splashes a anti syphon filter produces till it clicks off full.
brolly, wide brimmed hat, coat…company didn’t buy me one boo hoo.
Well they no longer load or tip their own nor sheet and rope their own, nor change their own gears, nor find their own route let alone change their own punctures, why would you expect 'em to have the nous to wedge a bloody stick in the filler trigger and keep out the way of the minute splashes a anti syphon filter produces till it clicks off full.
brolly, wide brimmed hat, coat…company didn’t buy me one boo hoo.
incoming…
I use a 50p as a wedge, BUT the OP is correct, the new MAN anti-syphon is too close to the top and badly shaped, which means anything above 1l per second (MAX!!) and you’re going to wear more diesel than goes in the tank. This isn’t just bad for the driver wearing it, but the company paying for the diesel not going in the tank.
I’m not sure if it’s a standard fit or after market, but it’s crap!
Well they no longer load or tip their own nor sheet and rope their own, nor change their own gears, nor find their own route let alone change their own punctures, why would you expect 'em to have the nous to wedge a bloody stick in the filler trigger and keep out the way of the minute splashes a anti syphon filter produces till it clicks off full.
brolly, wide brimmed hat, coat…company didn’t buy me one boo hoo.
incoming…
I use a 50p as a wedge, BUT the OP is correct, the new MAN anti-syphon is too close to the top and badly shaped, which means anything above 1l per second (MAX!!) and you’re going to wear more diesel than goes in the tank. This isn’t just bad for the driver wearing it, but the company paying for the diesel not going in the tank.
I’m not sure if it’s a standard fit or after market, but it’s crap!
Bang on Waynedl.
It doesnt matter what problem is raised on here therell be plenty who try and look big by saying it isnt a problem at all, its just that youre not as clever as me!
The anti-siphons on MAN trucks are a problem. If you havent had a go with one dont come on here and say its not a problem.
Whats that guy saying? If you can`t fill it up properly without splashing derv all over, just wear a coat and boots? This is why we are so badly thought of and poorly paid.
I don’t have a problem with the wet cold and hungry issue what grips my ■■■■ is the amount of money these lorries cost there should be ■■■■ all you can improve
Added to all the above Derv is a carcinogenic and should not be on your skin, should it be on your clothing its by the nature of your clothing in contact with your skin.
Well they no longer load or tip their own nor sheet and rope their own, nor change their own gears, nor find their own route let alone change their own punctures, why would you expect 'em to have the nous to wedge a bloody stick in the filler trigger and keep out the way of the minute splashes a anti syphon filter produces till it clicks off full.
brolly, wide brimmed hat, coat…company didn’t buy me one boo hoo.
incoming…
I use a 50p as a wedge, BUT the OP is correct, the new MAN anti-syphon is too close to the top and badly shaped, which means anything above 1l per second (MAX!!) and you’re going to wear more diesel than goes in the tank. This isn’t just bad for the driver wearing it, but the company paying for the diesel not going in the tank.
I’m not sure if it’s a standard fit or after market, but it’s crap!
Bang on Waynedl.
It doesnt matter what problem is raised on here therell be plenty who try and look big by saying it isnt a problem at all, its just that youre not as clever as me!
The anti-siphons on MAN trucks are a problem. If you havent had a go with one dont come on here and say its not a problem.
Whats that guy saying? If you can`t fill it up properly without splashing derv all over, just wear a coat and boots? This is why we are so badly thought of and poorly paid.
Well you’re the one getting splashed in Diesel and cold and wet in the rain, the company don’t give a toss about the designs faults they bought so they can’t be all that bothered about the lost fuel through splashes, so take steps its not bloody rocket science.
The design isn’t great, i’ve driven them regularly but simply fix the trigger at one click below full speed, leave it only just inside the filler and stand well back whilst it does its thing.
You wouldn’t stick your head over the top of a trench when the bullets were zinging past.
Well they no longer load or tip their own nor sheet and rope their own, nor change their own gears, nor find their own route let alone change their own punctures, why would you expect 'em to have the nous to wedge a bloody stick in the filler trigger and keep out the way of the minute splashes a anti syphon filter produces till it clicks off full.
brolly, wide brimmed hat, coat…company didn’t buy me one boo hoo.
incoming…
I use a 50p as a wedge, BUT the OP is correct, the new MAN anti-syphon is too close to the top and badly shaped, which means anything above 1l per second (MAX!!) and you’re going to wear more diesel than goes in the tank. This isn’t just bad for the driver wearing it, but the company paying for the diesel not going in the tank.
I’m not sure if it’s a standard fit or after market, but it’s crap!
Bang on Waynedl.
It doesnt matter what problem is raised on here therell be plenty who try and look big by saying it isnt a problem at all, its just that youre not as clever as me!
The anti-siphons on MAN trucks are a problem. If you havent had a go with one dont come on here and say its not a problem.
Whats that guy saying? If you can`t fill it up properly without splashing derv all over, just wear a coat and boots? This is why we are so badly thought of and poorly paid.
Well you’re the one getting splashed in Diesel and cold and wet in the rain, the company don’t give a toss about the designs faults they bought so they can’t be all that bothered about the lost fuel through splashes, so take steps its not bloody rocket science.
The design isn’t great, i’ve driven them regularly but simply fix the trigger at one click below full speed, leave it only just inside the filler and stand well back whilst it does its thing.
You wouldn’t stick your head over the top of a trench when the bullets were zinging past.
This new 13 plate MAN I’m currently driving, you’ve no chance at that speed.
If I hang the fuel nozzle so it’s barely in, I can just get it working on the slowest lock speed, and even then it’ll cut out sometimes because the anti-syphon trap has filled too quickly and triggered the cut off in the nozzle.
If you put the nozzle any further in, then it just ■■■■■■ all the diesel all over the forecourt rather than in the tank.
The 1 in this MAN is similar to the pic below, not identical but very similar, you can see the problems, short stem, then the middle bottom sticks up.
Well they no longer load or tip their own nor sheet and rope their own, nor change their own gears, nor find their own route let alone change their own punctures, why would you expect 'em to have the nous to wedge a bloody stick in the filler trigger and keep out the way of the minute splashes a anti syphon filter produces till it clicks off full.
brolly, wide brimmed hat, coat…company didn’t buy me one boo hoo.
incoming…
I use a 50p as a wedge, BUT the OP is correct, the new MAN anti-syphon is too close to the top and badly shaped, which means anything above 1l per second (MAX!!) and you’re going to wear more diesel than goes in the tank. This isn’t just bad for the driver wearing it, but the company paying for the diesel not going in the tank.
I’m not sure if it’s a standard fit or after market, but it’s crap!
Bang on Waynedl.
It doesnt matter what problem is raised on here therell be plenty who try and look big by saying it isnt a problem at all, its just that youre not as clever as me!
The anti-siphons on MAN trucks are a problem. If you havent had a go with one dont come on here and say its not a problem.
Whats that guy saying? If you can`t fill it up properly without splashing derv all over, just wear a coat and boots? This is why we are so badly thought of and poorly paid.
Well you’re the one getting splashed in Diesel and cold and wet in the rain, the company don’t give a toss about the designs faults they bought so they can’t be all that bothered about the lost fuel through splashes, so take steps its not bloody rocket science.
The design isn’t great, i’ve driven them regularly but simply fix the trigger at one click below full speed, leave it only just inside the filler and stand well back whilst it does its thing.
You wouldn’t stick your head over the top of a trench when the bullets were zinging past.
This new 13 plate MAN I’m currently driving, you’ve no chance at that speed.
If I hang the fuel nozzle so it’s barely in, I can just get it working on the slowest lock speed, and even then it’ll cut out sometimes because the anti-syphon trap has filled too quickly and triggered the cut off in the nozzle.
If you put the nozzle any further in, then it just ■■■■■■ all the diesel all over the forecourt rather than in the tank.
The 1 in this MAN is similar to the pic below, not identical but very similar, you can see the problems, short stem, then the middle bottom sticks up.
Have you tried putting the nozzle in from the top instead and propping the hose against the deflector, i’ve done that with some of our anti syphons and got a much quicker fill, still keeping out the way mind.
