could get you more than a FPN if you have skeletons in your closet.
Marshall, of Stonefield Road, Blantyre, was detained for fiddling his tachograph, which tracks a lorry’s movements.
During the police investigation, his DNA was taken and proved a match for the “cold case”.
It seems strange to have your DNA taken for a tachograph offence, is this usual ?
tachograph:
Marshall, of Stonefield Road, Blantyre, was detained for fiddling his tachograph, which tracks a lorry’s movements.
During the police investigation, his DNA was taken and proved a match for the “cold case”.It seems strange to have your DNA taken for a tachograph offence, is this usual ?
No Idea. Last time I was arrested the police took my DNA and I was told I couldn’t refuse as they are allowed to for crimes of violence, which my arrest fell under as I had a big old kitchen knife in my hand when I confronted local hoodies, but it does seem strange for a tacho offence. I guess however if it wasn’t allowed his lawyer would have got it thrown out.
Presumably the police had other evidence that linked him to the offence. Tachograph fiddling generally constitutes fraud, which is, I believe, is an arrestable offence. Once arrested, taking DNA samples and fingerprints are normal procedure.
tachograph:
Marshall, of Stonefield Road, Blantyre, was detained for fiddling his tachograph, which tracks a lorry’s movements.
During the police investigation, his DNA was taken and proved a match for the “cold case”.It seems strange to have your DNA taken for a tachograph offence, is this usual ?
Yes its standard practice. 
Fiddling tachos is an automatic arrest hence the usual procedures at the nick.
It is why the judicial system needs tightening up, everyone should be able to provide their DNA voluntarily, those that won’t, should be investigated till they do find something to arrest them for.
Nothing to prove, nothing to hide!
The other thing that needs looking at is these underage career criminals, if you are big enough to burgle,mug, ■■■■ and murder, then you should be big enough to stand up holding a name board and the photographs made public in the local area.
As mentioned above, tacho fraud is a criminal offence.
False records are indictable (can be tried by jury).
So if dealt with by the police would probably be done as with many other criminal offences.
Wheel Nut:
It is why the judicial system needs tightening up, everyone should be able to provide their DNA voluntarily, those that won’t, should be investigated till they do find something to arrest them for.Nothing to prove, nothing to hide!
The other thing that needs looking at is these underage career criminals, if you are big enough to burgle,mug, ■■■■ and murder, then you should be big enough to stand up holding a name board and the photographs made public in the local area.
You’re forgetting one important factor, wrongdoers, of any type, have rights. The rest of the law abiding population do not have similar rights. When a wrongdoer is caught, they then become the victim, due to some event in their earlier life.
Wheel Nut:
It is why the judicial system needs tightening up, everyone should be able to provide their DNA voluntarily, those that won’t, should be investigated till they do find something to arrest them for.Nothing to prove, nothing to hide!
OK ROG 
On a more serious note, perhaps more people would agree with that if the police did more to earn peoples trust and respect and less to earn peoples distrust and disrespect.
Just something to think about
Until we have a justice system that works, then we will never overcome the problems we have now. Until such time as we have effective deterents then the criminal will always win.
Wheel Nut:
everyone should be able to provide their DNA voluntarily, those that won’t, should be investigated till they do find something to arrest them for…
Please tell me you’re joking
i agree with wheel nut, everone should have there dna on the data base, what have you got to hide if you are doing nothing wrong,would hopefully cut a lot of or at least catch them quicker these what ■■■■ etc etc, the old bill dont just pick your name out of a hat on a morning and fit you up with a crime as some think they do, and i hate offical bodies any offical body but agree with dna been taken should make it law
I can just see the tests being done on all the yellow lemonade bottles, ■■■■■■■ carrier bags and pizza boxes, all in the name of justice. Don’t laugh, it would be the first thing that some folk would want doing. Same as restricting lorries to one lane only, or not running on Sundays etc.etc.etc.
Coffeeholic:
tachograph:
Marshall, of Stonefield Road, Blantyre, was detained for fiddling his tachograph, which tracks a lorry’s movements.
During the police investigation, his DNA was taken and proved a match for the “cold case”.It seems strange to have your DNA taken for a tachograph offence, is this usual ?
No Idea. Last time I was arrested the police took my DNA and I was told I couldn’t refuse as they are allowed to for crimes of violence, which my arrest fell under as I had a big old kitchen knife in my hand when I confronted local hoodies, but it does seem strange for a tacho offence. I guess however if it wasn’t allowed his lawyer would have got it thrown out.
now days when your nicked everything gets taken
bigdennis:
I can just see the tests being done on all the yellow lemonade bottles, ■■■■■■■ carrier bags and pizza boxes, all in the name of justice. Don’t laugh, it would be the first thing that some folk would want doing. Same as restricting lorries to one lane only, or not running on Sundays etc.etc.etc.
Too right, give the law an inch and they’ll take the bloody M1. Look at the “terrorism act 2000” they use it at every opportunity just to make people’s life a misery, there was even a bus spotter pulled in for photographing buses for christ’s sake! or how about local authorities using cctv to spy on people who’ve left their wheelie bin out for longer than a day. give big brother the slightest chance and they’ll stamp their big nasty jackboots all over your ■■■■■■■■
mickyblue:
Coffeeholic:
tachograph:
Marshall, of Stonefield Road, Blantyre, was detained for fiddling his tachograph, which tracks a lorry’s movements.
During the police investigation, his DNA was taken and proved a match for the “cold case”.It seems strange to have your DNA taken for a tachograph offence, is this usual ?
No Idea. Last time I was arrested the police took my DNA and I was told I couldn’t refuse as they are allowed to for crimes of violence, which my arrest fell under as I had a big old kitchen knife in my hand when I confronted local hoodies, but it does seem strange for a tacho offence. I guess however if it wasn’t allowed his lawyer would have got it thrown out.
now days when your nicked everything gets taken
Oh well, something to look forward to the next time. It took 4 of them to get my DNA and fingerprints last time when I didn’t do it voluntarily. 
Wheel Nut:
It is why the judicial system needs tightening up, everyone should be able to provide their DNA voluntarily, those that won’t, should be investigated till they do find something to arrest them for.Nothing to prove, nothing to hide!.
No way am I giving mine up voluntarily 
Besides that, the police already have my DNA and fingerprints
Rat67:
bigdennis:
I can just see the tests being done on all the yellow lemonade bottles, ■■■■■■■ carrier bags and pizza boxes, all in the name of justice. Don’t laugh, it would be the first thing that some folk would want doing. Same as restricting lorries to one lane only, or not running on Sundays etc.etc.etc.Too right, give the law an inch and they’ll take the bloody M1. Look at the “terrorism act 2000” they use it at every opportunity just to make people’s life a misery, there was even a bus spotter pulled in for photographing buses for christ’s sake! or how about local authorities using cctv to spy on people who’ve left their wheelie bin out for longer than a day. give big brother the slightest chance and they’ll stamp their big nasty jackboots all over your ■■■■■■■■
Yep, it’s worse than the 1950’s Soviet Union, but now just as then the sheeple march in.
Wheel Nut:
It is why the judicial system needs tightening up, everyone should be able to provide their DNA voluntarily, those that won’t, should be investigated till they do find something to arrest them for.Nothing to prove, nothing to hide!
The other thing that needs looking at is these underage career criminals, if you are big enough to burgle,mug, ■■■■ and murder, then you should be big enough to stand up holding a name board and the photographs made public in the local area.
the problem with this approach is down to how dna matching works. its not a case of match or not its down to probability. even if the prlbability is 1 in a million (and its not always that high) that means for a crime in london there are 8 people who could have done it, or more that 50 in the uk. thats why we need other evidence
–bob–:
Wheel Nut:
It is why the judicial system needs tightening up, everyone should be able to provide their DNA voluntarily, those that won’t, should be investigated till they do find something to arrest them for.Nothing to prove, nothing to hide!
The other thing that needs looking at is these underage career criminals, if you are big enough to burgle,mug, ■■■■ and murder, then you should be big enough to stand up holding a name board and the photographs made public in the local area.
the problem with this approach is down to how dna matching works. its not a case of match or not its down to probability. even if the prlbability is 1 in a million (and its not always that high) that means for a crime in london there are 8 people who could have done it, or more that 50 in the uk. thats why we need other evidence
OK the DNA on its own is maybe not infallible but things like an alibi, in hospital, climbing mount Everest or watching England winning the World Cup would narrow those 8 people down to maybe 4, the ginger one is easy to fit up, no one likes them, The others are 2 black men and a Norwegian.
And tachograph, you certainly should be arrested, you have wounded me. Rog indeed 
How many times did they pull Peter Sutcliffe or Huntley in for questioning?