I wasn’t being selective YOU were the one who included Kent in the discussion , using it as an indicator of how hard done by the southerners are.
I merely showed that compared to NATIONAL figures that isn’t strictly true.
Using figures for North Yorks and Harrogate is, however very selective on your part, as you ignore completely any representative comparison from the north, especially as previously you claimed north as being anywhere above watford gap and now you want to ignore any of the large conurbations.
As a very simple argument I put forward this
seeing as how the South is already knackered by overdevelopment, it makes more sense to continue there rather than ruin another area of the UK.
del949:
I wasn’t being selective YOU were the one who included Kent in the discussion , using it as an indicator of how hard done by the southerners are.
I merely showed that compared to NATIONAL figures that isn’t strictly true.
Using figures for North Yorks and Harrogate is, however very selective on your part, as you ignore completely any representative comparison from the north, especially as previously you claimed north as being anywhere above watford gap and now you want to ignore any of the large conurbations.
As a very simple argument I put forward this
seeing as how the South is already knackered by overdevelopment, it makes more sense to continue there rather than ruin another area of the UK.
I was actually using the example of those areas of Kent,Surrey,and all of the old county of Middlesex,which have already been taken for London’s housing needs,to show that what remains of at least Surrey and Kent is rightly subject to the Green Belt policy on the basis of they’ve taken more than enough so no more.Using North Yorkshire as a comparison is a representative comparison on the basis why should any British county not be subject to equal (same) loading as at least Kent and even Surrey has been subjected to (including) those areas which were subsequently taken by London.In which case contrary to your idea it’s now time for the Northern counties like North Yorkshire,■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ amongst others further South like Herefordshire and Shropshire for example to start pulling their weight by taking a fair share of the country’s development requirement.
As for your ‘very simple argument’.As I see it the South East isn’t (yet) ‘knackered’ by development at all because that’s what the green belt policy here is all about.IE stopping the expansion of London any further.However it’s no surprise that,just as I’ve said,the NIMBY Northerners want it all their own way by knackering us so they can keep those barren hillsides of theirs untouched.Assuming you get your wish what makes you think that the population down here would want to stay in such an overdeveloped urban zb hole.Which the Northerners obviously want to see put here to save their own places from being brought up to the levels which already apply here.Your idea just makes the issue of keeping further development out in the South East even more important for us because it’s obvious that the rest of the country just see the South East as a development dumping ground and it’s also obvious that they want to use the excuse because we’ve already taken more than our fair share of the nation’s development requirement we should then take even more.You’re having a laugh just like that fat zb Prescott was.
I don’t remember the south having the attitude of fair shares during the times when all heavy, dirty industry was up North.
Can’t remember any southerners crying "they have all the muck up there, why don’t we take some and give the north a bit of leeway.
I also don’t remember any southerners telling the government that they didn’t want all the extra spending that has been given to the south by saying “no, send some up north”.
Not hearing many complaints about cheaper flights abroad for southerners because they have more airport capacity, ditto cross channel cheapies, ditto most of the big theatres. museums, art galleries etc etc etc.
No, my friend as the saying goes “you made your bed, now lie in it!”
del949:
I don’t remember the south having the attitude of fair shares during the times when all heavy, dirty industry was up North.
Can’t remember any southerners crying "they have all the muck up there, why don’t we take some and give the north a bit of leeway.
I also don’t remember any southerners telling the government that they didn’t want all the extra spending that has been given to the south by saying “no, send some up north”.
Not hearing many complaints about cheaper flights abroad for southerners because they have more airport capacity, ditto cross channel cheapies, ditto most of the big theatres. museums, art galleries etc etc etc.
No, my friend as the saying goes “you made your bed, now lie in it!”
Blimey that sounds like the typical raving Northern idea that there is/was no working class or industry in the South East just like the Yorkshire miners who often ‘forgot’ all about the fact that it was the Kent miners who were first out and last to go back.I think you’re confusing what (maybe) (some of) the views of the mostly immigrant acedemic office worker class (national and international) population of London with those of the population (that’s left) of the place’s surrounding counties which has any real affinity with the place.Yes we’re nearer to France so what.Tough deal with it.You’ve got a ferry from Hull to the continent if/when you need it whereas ours goes from Dover that’s just an issue of simple geography.
As for spending maybe you’d like to compare a hospital stay down here which resembles a war zone most of the time because of overloading and see the state of our local authority finances caused by the difference in the amount of spending down here by head of population compared to up North which was a policy of the previous Labour government for years.
Build high rise blocks all over the home counties because that is where all the money is.If they get a dusting of snow,its a blizzard.Anywhere else is ignored as if nothing ever happens.
Lets have some investment in the rest of the country.
