Bach home:
Winseer:
We WOULD send them a message - a Referendum “OUT” result.
We’re never going to get asked though - are we?
We clearly had the WWII result overturned on appeal, and now we struggle in a similar manner to the way Germany suffered under the impositions of the Treaty of Versailles.
Nazism was the end result of such ■■■■-taking by the then foreign “victor” powers over Germany back then.
Is history going to repeat itself? - or can we appoach this with the proper level of Democracy, and stop it before it’s too late?
The Euro project has not only failed, it’s now a huge liability and a huge threat alongside NATO to peace in the world today.
Even the bible bashers have got their own set of fears over all this larger “Europe” issue.
Europa-How Revelation reveals Europe in end time prophecy
To compare the failings of being a member state of the EU to Germany post Versailles is a bit of a stretch mate, Germans were dying of starvation and the nation was a million times poorer than the UK ever will be.
As for the “even the Bible bashers”, if you refer to Christians like me in such condescending terms then why are you reading the stuff some of them write?
Just remember that just about everything that was or still is good about Britain or Europe came as a result of it’s Christian past.
I refer to the way the Treaty of Versailles made it possible for Hitler to rise out of the ashes of post-Weimar republic Germany… He did crack down rather heavily upon the predominantly semitic banking industry after all - just took it too far afterwoulds though.
The biblical reference is more against those that come bothering on the door. The article linked merely made some interesting comparisons rather than banged on about “this” being “that” and so on which one tends to get from the more door-knocking “bible bashers” as I put it, but also more fringe factions of Christianity & Judaism. Like it or not, in terms of Culture - that’s what we are first and foremost in this country, just no longer practicing for the best part as a nation.
As far as Christianity itself is concerned - I’ll not argue overall against something I’m part of. I WILL suggest however that there’s too much in-fighting that would have us all following the teachings of Saul of Tarsus (who never met Christ) rather than Christ himself.
Christ was fundementally anti-establishment. Saul of Tarsus has a politically motivated “Conversion” (imo), and then tours the entire established world of his day pushing notions that “The Establishment should be followed rather than rebeled against”. In other words, two entirely different teachings from two people in a position to be heard - but for very different reasons. The spirit-crushing but establishment-benign teachings of establishment-loving Saul get pushed forwards onto the anti-establishment but spirit-lifting teachings from the apostles… anti the liberal Greek definitions of ‘love’ for example, but telling people it’s wrong not to pay a debt to your master or rebel against your conqeuror on the other… From an outsider’s perspective, the Roman Catholics are quick to condemn ■■■■■■ activity, but have not brought about regime change in a European country. Meanwhile, they’ll try and influence other countries, and be a hive of ■■■■■■ sin whilst denying to their flock any open pleasures other than “The Procreation”. Queue the exodus of higly-sexed people out of religion altogether, and the migration in of deviants who’ll find it easy to lead an outward “celibate” life on account that they are secret pederasts, or merely misogynists. Those Northern Europeans on the other hand, who lean towards Protestantism, are able to see corruption for what corruption is. Our governments, by no means perfect, have tended to be better than those of the Southern, more Catholic version of Christianity. Go East, and the Orthodox brand has slacked down to the level of “superstition” in many people’s eyes, and the religion there is merely tolerated by the state for keeping some people content who would otherwise make waves in their respective societies.
One could argue that overall, the various brands of Christianity have become much like political parties… You picks one and you takes your choice. You just don’t get “floating” Christians in that sense though. Tony Blair converted to Catholisism - but from what? - Atheism? Protestantism? - It wasn’t from Islam or Shinto - that’s for sure!
I don’t accept that we should take (as citizens of a free country) any stick from the so-called “order” of the day. Push back against this “order” though, and the first argument the establishment figures throw in one’s face is that “The rule of law must be followed”. As a Roman Citizen, Saul of Tarsus could not hide from his pro-establishment past by changing his name to Paul. He, of course, hasn’t attempted to hide from it. He merely introduced establishment power to the early Church of Christ. There are great differences indeed between the Roman Catholic brand of Christianity and the Protestant variety that I adhere to.
The sting of death is sin and the strength of sin is the law.
I get that. Anti-establishment I’ll remain. Protesting as citizen, Protestant in Christianity.
. That’s ought to be huge problem 
EU citizens will still be able to live, work and drive in UK.
