Facts about the migrants in Calais

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andy187:
And with no papers, they will be deported.

And don’t get benefits as no papers.

Deported to where? If they have no papers (Probably thrown them away) we have no clue where to send them.
Right now the Immigration authorities are using dialect/language experts to try and work out where they are from.

Maybe they do not get benefits in money, but we do feed, clothe and accommodate them.

What is more worrying is the amount of unaccompanied children that are arriving in the UK, some of these 6 years old! Right now there are 600+ being looked after by Kent CC and they have exhausted the all available foster homes to care for these children. Whatever your thoughts might be about the illegals arriving in the UK we have to sympathise with the children, and the parents of these kids that are willing give them up in the hope of a better life.

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Martin:

andy187:
And with no papers, they will be deported.

And don’t get benefits as no papers.

Deported to where? If they have no papers (Probably thrown them away) we have no clue where to send them.
Right now the Immigration authorities are using dialect/language experts to try and work out where they are from.

Maybe they do not get benefits in money, but we do feed, clothe and accommodate them.

What is more worrying is the amount of unaccompanied children that are arriving in the UK, some of these 6 years old! Right now there are 600+ being looked after by Kent CC and they have exhausted the all available foster homes to care for these children. Whatever your thoughts might be about the illegals arriving in the UK we have to sympathise with the children, and the parents of these kids that are willing give them up in the hope of a better life.

Maybe i should have added eventually… as they may be?

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I don’t give 2 sugars we’re theses people r from …I don’t want them here we’ve had years of mass Imigration thanks to Blair n brown…not wanted not needed in British society … what r they going to contribute sweet fanny … [zb] all …

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drhs:
I don’t give 2 sugars we’re theses people r from …I don’t want them here we’ve had years of mass Imigration thanks to Blair n brown…not wanted not needed in British society … what r they going to contribute sweet fanny … [zb] all …

Are you talking about all immigrants or just those at calais?

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Take a look at this on YouTube
Unreported world Greece the unwanted from 2009 I believe this is what happens to the immigrants in every other EU country and why Calais has been a magnet for them over 20 years this 20 minute documentary is a real eye opener…

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One of those trying to break in to the tunnel railhead said he had heard that the UK was about to use the Army and it was their last chance.

source :http://news.sky.com/story/1529004/calais-crisis-hundreds-storm-channel-tunnelv Sounds like a genuine asylum seeker don’t you think?

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andy187:

drhs:
I don’t give 2 sugars we’re theses people r from …I don’t want them here we’ve had years of mass Imigration thanks to Blair n brown…not wanted not needed in British society … what r they going to contribute sweet fanny … [zb] all …

Are you talking about all immigrants or just those at calais?

not all …but quite a few england is full …what has happened to the billion £ a mouth we give in aid…to all theses places in need eh…the sooner we show theses people they aint wanted the better …u look after ur own 1st the sooner we come out ov the eu the better and CLOSE THE DOORS

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I have been watching the BBC bs propaganda pro illegal immigrant stance, over the the last 24hrs, and early this morning there was a report showing some woman claiming to be a lawyer from Africa, she was giving it the sorry story big time, whilst claiming to have the right to be fed ect, FREE OF CHARGE !!! in another video report she can be heard inciting the crowd to break into the euro tunnel terminal , so not hard to see why she got and others got gassed with some capsicum spray is it, why is a lawyer inciting others to break the law ? personally i think she is a ring leader, maybe even has links with people traffickers , i don’t feel sorry for here and ilk at all

Infact it incites me to an extent to want to go over to calais and help pepper spray them to keep them out, shame that rubber bullets or water cannon have yet not been deployed to disperse them

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The-Snowman:

Yoni:
Do I have the answer to the global migration crisis? No, but here are some suggestions that might help: set up proper, EU-run processing centres at the main entry points: southern Italy, Greece, Hungary. Genuine refugees should be offered asylum according to an agreed quota calculated according to population and GDP. Those deemed non-eligible for asylum would be offered a choice: wait in a camp until your number comes up, and then go where you’re sent – or go home.

I had arguments to all your other points till I saw this one. And it is a reasonable idea but for one thing
Why do we need to set up camps etc? Why not make them stay where they are and apply from there? (except from actual problem countries for those fleeing wars,ethnic cleansing etc)
Why let them migrate then be expected to feed them etc?

Yoni:
The tragedy is that so many people are so desperate that they’re prepared to die in an attempt to find a safe place to live. And our response is so blinkered that all we can think of is building higher fences.

Its not a tragedy. Its just not my problem. If they live in a [zb] hole country,its dont see why its my responsibility,when im getting told to tighten my belt for austerity and public services are being cut and all the other cost cutting measures the government are implementing, that I have a “duty” to feed and clothe hundreds of thousands of migrants from the taxes I pay. Let them apply the same way that all the Brits going to Spain (that you left wingers love to inform us of the huge numbers that move there) by filling in the forms,proving they can bring something to the table and WAITING on an answer and accepting it. NOT coming here anyway on the back of a lorry then saying “feed me,I have no money or a place to stay”.
As I said a few days ago on here (and to you the last time you were on) the guy in my streets house burned down. That was a tragedy for him but its not my problem or responsibility to look after him

:sunglasses: spot on snowy got that bang on

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if I do anything illegal I would get arrested and have to pay for the crime committed .these illegal immigrants break fencing /trespass / enter a country illegally and it seems nothing can be done about it I thought it should be the FIRST safe country you come into that you claim asylum .they come here because of the free hand outs soft touch Britain .

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The-Snowman:

BillyHunt:
You do realise that all that information will be regarded as made up lies by the government don’t you? I feel the comments such as, pro immigration bs, bleeding heart con/lab/EU scam are just about to land. Personally I cannot wait :laughing:

where as you know it to be 100% bona fida guaranteed absolutely true fact do you?

Not at all, I just don’t dismiss it as a matter of course just because it doesn’t fit in with the way I want it to be. There are so many negative people on here it’s a wonder they bother getting up in the morning.

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Many of them do they apply to have status in Greece they are profcessed and get papers back saying they have 30 days to leave and get free travel warrant or they go to local office were they wait in q’s hundreds of them for a pot luck 15 to be picked of which 10 maybe granted assylum.this is my issue with figures the amount of actual help other EU countries give is not what the numbers say but we as the people are supposed to swollow this bs and cameron can keep his tourists happy coz the migrants have only just arrived and it will swiftly stop he’s on the job lmfao he’s got help from France jeeeeeeezzz…

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BillyHunt:
Not at all, I just don’t dismiss it as a matter of course just because it doesn’t fit in with the way I want it to be.

Fair enough.

billyhunt:
here are so many negative people on here it’s a wonder they bother getting up in the morning.

Well that is a 100% true fact! :laughing:

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If as we are told time after time by our so called political leaders, that these are the kind of people what we need to bring prosperity to our economies, then why aren’t the French government bending over backwards to persuade these people to remain in France there by making their country more prosperous?..cant get my head around that one.

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Ahhh the term used by them, well the PC brigade " migrants" they try to categorise the illegals who break into your lorry /trailer and stow away or cause criminal damage to perimeter fences and cause havoc at the French Euro-tunnel terminal costing this country lots of money in lost revenue, that originate from counties outside the EU who also could be members of Isis , the same as those from eastern europe who come here to work , AKA Migrants and do so legally unlike the others, who are really illegal immigrants, who want to come here because we are known to be Europe’s soft touch

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This country should introduce ID cards for everyone. Lets face it some 45 million of us already have a form of it , it’s called an DRIVING LICENCE.

ID cards could be introduced over a period of time, starting with everyone coming into this country - students, migrants etc
To obtain these cards you’ll need to give full details about yourself with accompanying (traceable) paperwork also fingerprints, retina scan or face scanning and dna swabs. If you refuse to do this then no entry. Student ID cards will only last whilst their studying, then it’s time to leave. If their caught afterwards then it’s the first plane out of here and NO RETURN FOR MIN 10 YEARS.

ID cards can then be used to verify people at university’s / benefit claims /loans / house renting even NHS (doctors/hospitals etc).
The ID can be rolled out through schools (ID cards for everyone over 16yrs old) + all new benefit applications. New Driving licence applications and renewals can also include.

I know I’ll properly get a lot of abuse from this post but in my opinion this country needs to have ID cards and sooner rather than later.

I know that some of you will say that it’s big brother watching you etc but many country’s already have them, Germany and France to name two.

If you’ve got nothing to hide, then what’s the problem?

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well if the other country’s take in far more immigrants then the uk then i am sure they wouldn’t mind taking in the small number who seem to be causing mayhem at the crossing ?

why would any of them want to come here in the first place if they can be taken in by Germany etc ?

i dont need to read about anything in the news papers i have eyes and i can see what is happening in my town as more and more cheap imports show up each week, when is it ever going to stop?

is it ever going to stop ?

the problem with the bleeding hearts is they dont have to live with the problem so there very pro letting them in, they would soon change there turn should the impact of letting them in start to impact on there own lives,or lively hood

i think what should happen to be fair to let people who want them to be let in become there sponsors, they will have to share there home and help them with there own wages rather than try to con the rest of us to pay up for them

i can just see billy being happy to let people move in with him and share his nice income with them. i can just see billy happy to let them build a place or worship in his garden and for him to foot the bill for it ?

no i can really see billy as the type who wants them to be let in, wants them to have places of worship, wants them to all feel like there still at home by letting them take over areas rather than having to live the English way of life

BUT NOT IN HIS BACK YARD

you want them let in billy you pay for them

you only have to look at what has happend in rochdale or bradford to see what happens when large number of people who come from over seas all get settled in one area, the natives of that area move out they dont feel like they live in there own country any-more work places change english is changed slowly to what ever the mass speakers speak

this is the sort of thing that is starting to happen in many other areas hence there is a huge uptake of people who dont believe the bleeding hearts who try to post up facts and figures as those facts and figures dont take into account what they can see themselves

the nhs is over run driving is overrun towns are slowly changing were English is being lost

there the real facts of the matter its starting to affect more people now than ever before hence the bleeding hearts nutters are losing there ground and there is a growing upsurge of unrest

how big that upsurge of unrest will get i dont know ? but the more people it starts to affect the more it will grow.

the papers can print whatever they can, its gone past news papers being able to brain wash the masses, its what people are living with in there daily lives that is doing the damage and people want change

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desypete:
the nhs is over run

This is what the likes of Tris and all the other hand wringers,bleeding hearts and left wingers dont seem to understand. The vast majority who are determined to get into the UK are after one thing. The use of our “free” health service (Its only free to those who only arrived five minutes ago. The rest of us pay for it in taxes but im sure that doesnt bother them).The NHS is the big draw for almost all of them and until it is made clear “You arnt using it no matter what till you’ve been here at least a year” then they will STILL all aim for the UK as their final destination.
Part of me wonders if camerons end game is to let as many as possible use it and then privatise it because its costing too much.
Heres another question for Tris and the other lefties. When your so obsessed about the number that other countries take in,can you be sure they are not seeking asylum there,getting it approved to become EU citizens then high tailing it to the UK on their EU passport to gain access to our benefit system (which you’ll never convince me is not the most generous in the EU) and NHS?

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The problem with the migrant issue as a whole is, the views of the general British population are the last to be considered. All I hear on the news is “we must not upset the French” or “we must not upset our EU partners” (paraphrased of course). Meanwhile our opposition government is more concerned with the language used tham the issue itself (getting upset over the word “swarmed”).
Whilst this issue is being treated as a political football, it will never be solved and real people on the ground will continue to suffer.
David Cameron is thanking his lucky starts this is happening AFTER the general election
.

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desypete:
well if the other country’s take in far more immigrants then the uk then i am sure they wouldn’t mind taking in the small number who seem to be causing mayhem at the crossing ?

why would any of them want to come here in the first place if they can be taken in by Germany etc ?

i dont need to read about anything in the news papers i have eyes and i can see what is happening in my town as more and more cheap imports show up each week, when is it ever going to stop?

is it ever going to stop ?

the problem with the bleeding hearts is they dont have to live with the problem so there very pro letting them in, they would soon change there turn should the impact of letting them in start to impact on there own lives,or lively hood

i think what should happen to be fair to let people who want them to be let in become there sponsors, they will have to share there home and help them with there own wages rather than try to con the rest of us to pay up for them

i can just see billy being happy to let people move in with him and share his nice income with them. i can just see billy happy to let them build a place or worship in his garden and for him to foot the bill for it ?

no i can really see billy as the type who wants them to be let in, wants them to have places of worship, wants them to all feel like there still at home by letting them take over areas rather than having to live the English way of life

BUT NOT IN HIS BACK YARD

you want them let in billy you pay for them

you only have to look at what has happend in rochdale or bradford to see what happens when large number of people who come from over seas all get settled in one area, the natives of that area move out they dont feel like they live in there own country any-more work places change english is changed slowly to what ever the mass speakers speak

this is the sort of thing that is starting to happen in many other areas hence there is a huge uptake of people who dont believe the bleeding hearts who try to post up facts and figures as those facts and figures dont take into account what they can see themselves

the nhs is over run driving is overrun towns are slowly changing were English is being lost

there the real facts of the matter its starting to affect more people now than ever before hence the bleeding hearts nutters are losing there ground and there is a growing upsurge of unrest

how big that upsurge of unrest will get i dont know ? but the more people it starts to affect the more it will grow.

the papers can print whatever they can, its gone past news papers being able to brain wash the masses, its what people are living with in there daily lives that is doing the damage and people want change

Ahh DP, if you don’t like where you live then move somewhere better, these people in Calais seem to manage doing it pretty well so I’m sure you could, just don’t move up here, we prefer more open minded, glass half full types.