The French have a system where they display the insurance on a small plastic card in the passenger window,would that ever come to the Uk?
Derf:
‘Failure to exhibit valid VED disc’ is an offence in it’s own right, doesn’t matter if you paid your car tax or not, if the disc isn’t in the windscreen you can be stuck on for a £60 ticket!
As said there’s a 5 day exemption if done online.
mrpj:
Derf:
‘Failure to exhibit valid VED disc’ is an offence in it’s own right, doesn’t matter if you paid your car tax or not, if the disc isn’t in the windscreen you can be stuck on for a £60 ticket!As said there’s a 5 day exemption if done online.
Only as far as DVLA are concerned. It’s an absolute offence.
Derf:
Only as far as DVLA are concerned. It’s an absolute offence.
Apply online before the old disc expires & you do indeed have 5 days… apply after expiry & you have diddly!
Melchett:
Derf:
Only as far as DVLA are concerned. It’s an absolute offence.Apply online before the old disc expires & you do indeed have 5 days… apply after expiry & you have diddly!
5 working days
What about all the cars over here on foreign plates, are you going to report them as well…the owners live here, use the same roads as i do, yet contribute very little in the way of taxation ( apart from the tax on fuel )
i believe they have to register their vehicle within 12 months, we have some on our company who have been working and driving the same car for the past 3/4 years…i dislike people who drive with no tax, insurance or mot, simply because they do, and i have to pay my dues because i dont want to pay the fines/go to jail, having no insurance is a penalty that can lead to a big fine and or prison.
Years ago we used to buy mots for a tenner, and a tax disc which was forged but looked the business, or some used a guines label..ha ha those were the days eh ! With the technology today, mot
s have to be registered with dvla, the same as insurance, so all the poplice have to do is look at the number plate, and look at the dvla database to see if you legal prior to stopping a driver, so let them police it, although with the cut in numbers, and the anger with their government bosses, i doubt they will bother with a tax dodger.
I just tell the local plod, simples.
If someone with no tax or mot who has insurance hits you then their insurance company has to pay out the third party liabilities. ie your damage. However they will not pay a penny towards the repairs of the illegal driver and may well attempt to recover their costs in court.
WildGoose:
I may have at times displayed an expired tax disc in my windscreen, doesn’t mean my car isn’t taxed, insured or MOT’d. You seem to think you can tell everything about a car from it, in reality it tells you nothing.I am against displaying a physical tax disc in this age of computerisation, it’s old hat. I am also too lazy to open my tax disc holder because it has little screws and is a right fiddle to do.
I repeat. Mind your own business, you may not have all the facts.
Yep, as I’ve just put on another thread, my car hasn’t had a tax disc in the window for 5 years. That’s not to say it isn’t taxed (and tested), it is, and always has been.
So some on here would see my motor, assume it’s got no tax, test or insurance, ring the grass line.
WildGoose:
Winseer:
When you pass a parked car with tax disk dated something like 6 months or more out of date… THAT’'S what needs to be reported!
This person is clearly taking the ■■■■, rather than just has a lousy local postal service, or might not have been paid until the last day of the month, by which point it’s going to be a few days into the next month before the new disk arrives…Who’s gonna report a July 12 parked car right now for instance then, when it could indeed have just got stuck in the post, and DVLA have already taken full blame for the late delivery sometimes as well?
If you’re gonna take a shot, make sure it’s a 100% hit 100% of the time I reckon! 6 months out of date is no mistake - that’s someone ripping off the rest of us who pay up on time.
You’re an idiot, clearly. Just like most of the rest on this thread.
And you suggest I’M sticking my nose in?
You cannot tell anything from an out of date tax disk displayed, nothing at all, it doesn’t mean the car isn’t taxed. It doesn’t mean they haven’t paid, it might simply mean they haven’t displayed. So why do you care? Get with the times.
If you flop big full, and someone puts you all in, you don’t worry about them having quads - you call it. Why would someone be word-perfect on motoring legalities, only to neglect a major visible bit that might get them in trouble when they’ve actually paid their way? - “not displaying” being the offence, rather than “not having paid for”?
For the sake of argument, in theory I don’t suppose it’s possible that I might have not displayed a current tax disc in my windscreen for over 3 years and never had any issues from it? Doesn’t mean I haven’t paid it.
Do a “Clarkson” and stick your registration * location photo up on here when you have it parked on the road with no tax disk. I probably won’t be the only one to demonstrate what does and does not happen with regards to the law and tax disks!
What use is a paper disc in a world of ANPR? The tax disc is an out of date notion, and as long as you car is taxed, i’d be very interested to hear of any problems you ever have from not displaying one.
This was as far as your contribution to this argument should have got. Non-Judgemental upon others, invites argument from both sides, healthy debating material. It was dealt with in my arguments regarding “soft” and "hard local officialdom, and those they target.
You are just looking for things to poke your nose into, and desperately need to get a life. It really makes me cringe listening to “the law is the law, obey, comply” brigade. You were given a brain, use it.
(1) Everyone sticking a reply on any thread is “sticking their nose in” - it’s called public conversation. If you think you’ve got an angle one way or the other, you might choose to get involved. (2) I type quite fast, so it’s no skin off my nose if I choose to chop down trees, eat my lunch, and go to the lavatory in my spare time! (3) I don’t recall ever saying the second line, or making suggestions we should become “Cuthbert Cringeworthies”. (4) I do frequently, and get ever more derision from people high and low who either understand me wrongly, or just don’t understand at all.
Tax disc also has no effect on insurance. MOT does, but not tax.
If your car gets crushed, and you then can’t claim on your insurance, I’d say it does!
If anyone thinks motoring is expensive here, ever tried buying a car in Denmark?
The public sees Denmark as a place to visit for Legoland, or somewhere that has a major pig industry. Most don’t even know anyone that’s been there, let alone comes from there, so the argument is akin to “I never get nicked when I’m working in the Falklands!”
Everyone knows it is the discretion of the officer who notices the missing tax disk as to if you get fined or not for NOT DISPLAYING A VALID TAX DISK - that being the law, not some plummy NIMBY neighbourhood “waive scheme” who’ll waive charges because excuses can be made of the plebian local workforce for “not arriving in time” or whatever.
People like you just keep your area a safe tory seat in exchange for being left alone by officialdom when you step out of line, and look down your noses at the rest of us that fall into line. Stand in line with the bankers, estate agents, car dealers, form fiddlers, and solicitors then - They all expect to get away with everything under the sun as well, and bleat like lambs when there’s the occasional bit of public indignation over 'em getting away with murder when the rest of us can’t. Most of us live in the real world outside of “safe seat” land! I can assure you that “law and order” life is different in the most marginal seat in the country at the last election…
And yes, I do laugh my arse off when I see a 4x4, sports car, or caravan being ticketed just about anywhere, so imagine what I’d do if I saw one being towed to the crusher sometime?
Incidentally, having no road tax is not a crime, it’s a civil offence, not a criminal one.
Hence the reason the Police are not bothered if you have no tax, they might report you to the DVLA, but the police themselves won’t do anything about it.
I’ve been through 3 roadside checks and driven past a dozen or so DVLA ANPR camera’s (there’s one that parks in a layby regulary near my work), and have never had my lack of tax disc questioned.
cieranc:
Incidentally, having no road tax is not a crime, it’s a civil offence, not a criminal one.
Hence the reason the Police are not bothered if you have no tax, they might report you to the DVLA, but the police themselves won’t do anything about it.I’ve been through 3 roadside checks and driven past a dozen or so DVLA ANPR camera’s (there’s one that parks in a layby regulary near my work), and have never had my lack of tax disc questioned.
do you mean not displaying as opposed to no tax? at least for the bottom bit
ANPR isn’t bother because it reads the reg and knows you are taxed
and just because you’ve been through 3 roadside checks doesn’t mean by any stretch that the police aren’t bothered. people do get busted for it.
whilst i don’t see any reason to display a tax disc, the risk : reward ratio makes it bonkers not to, risk = fine probably £30 but worst case £200 : reward = save 30 second to a minute of my life not putting a tax disc into the holder ---- no brainer to me
has anyone seen the dvla car with camera sit on the millbrook flyover in southampton ?