EU TV debate

Jimmy Krankie (Nicola Sturgeon)Scotish independance trying to tell the UK to stay in the EU :slight_smile: you couldn’t make it up

Aren’t they an angry bunch on the remain side. They’re not coming across well

OVLOV JAY:
Aren’t they an angry bunch on the remain side. They’re not coming across well

And telling lots of porkies as they do, that and resembling being in a infant school playground “it wasn’t me sir it was him/her ect ect it’s not my fault” and then one shouts we need to stop misleading people , personally i don’t believe any of them , as said sack them all and start again, (All mainstream political parties)they are there to work for us and not themselves or their interests shared with their lobbyists

Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Rudd is a typical tory toff and knows virtually nothing , she even claimed that government has common sense, :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :smiley: :grimacing: not a chance of that ever they don’t have the common-sense that they had when they where still in the their prams (before they learned to speak) and they all want cheap imported labour, all of them because it helps feed the illusion that our economy is doing well , when the reality is it isn’t , hence no wage increases because of this illusion they have created and seek at any cost to maintain
How is this in the interest of the people of our country ?

rearaxle:
Jimmy Krankie (Nicola Sturgeon)Scotish independance trying to tell the UK to stay in the EU :slight_smile: you couldn’t make it up

Beware of any politician who says it’s possible to be both a Nationalist and a Socialist.It’s an impossible contradiction that can’t possibly be true.Which at least explains why she’s happy to ditch the UK Federation,for the EU one.

Which she sees as being more advantageous to her Socialist agenda like Corbyn’s Labour rabble.

A bit like how Hitler scammed the German Nationalist vote to impose a Socialist agenda and then joined Stalin in trying to take over Europe. :bulb: Just that this time it’s a pretend Scottish Braveheart actually working for Merkel and Juncker etc.

If the bloke that can sell a digger in any country in the world says vote leave then that is saying something, if a bloke that employs 90% polish workers says vote stay that is saying something.

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bubsy06:
If the bloke that can sell a digger in any country in the world says vote leave then that is saying something, if a bloke that employs 90% polish workers says vote stay that is saying something.

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The bloke who sells diggers (JCB) says that they export more to countries outside the EU speaks even more volumes, the single market isn’t worth jack for what little exports we have left, or it’s worth a hell of a lot more for government to keep the illusion of economic recovery alive propped up by a uncontrolled flow of migrants (cheap labour)

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And im the pope

I seem to visit more rdc’s and factories with eastern european workers than i do in kms

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OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Ok you got me.

How is she anti democratic?

alicks77:

OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Ok you got me.

How is she anti democratic?

She’s obviously a Federalist not a Nationalist.Nuf said.In which case why would she be standing on the ( correct ) ticket that Scottish secession from the UK would return local democracy to Scotland IE English MP’s can’t decide Scottish policies only Scottish ones can.When she’s happy to throw Scottish government policy to the EU commision and EU QMV in which foreign politicians alone can thereby decide Scottish policy.With no right of opt out or sovereign control for the Nationalist Scots she supposedly represents.I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.

Carryfast:

alicks77:

OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Ok you got me.

How is she anti democratic?

She’s obviously a Federalist not a Nationalist.Nuf said.In which case why would she be standing on the ( correct ) ticket that Scottish secession from the UK would return local democracy to Scotland IE English MP’s can’t decide Scottish policies only Scottish ones can.When she’s happy to throw Scottish government policy to the EU commision and EU QMV in which foreign politicians alone can thereby decide Scottish policy.With no right of opt out or sovereign control for the Nationalist Scots she supposedly represents.I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.

Anti-democratic possibly because she doesn’t accept the last Scottish Indie vote…

el_presidente:

Carryfast:

alicks77:

OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Ok you got me.

How is she anti democratic?

She’s obviously a Federalist not a Nationalist.Nuf said.In which case why would she be standing on the ( correct ) ticket that Scottish secession from the UK would return local democracy to Scotland IE English MP’s can’t decide Scottish policies only Scottish ones can.When she’s happy to throw Scottish government policy to the EU commision and EU QMV in which foreign politicians alone can thereby decide Scottish policy.With no right of opt out or sovereign control for the Nationalist Scots she supposedly represents.I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.

Anti-democratic possibly because she doesn’t accept the last Scottish Indie vote…

She did , we did. Scotland is not an independent country. It’s been on the news.

All the working class will vote leave, above that class will vote remain.

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Some of the audience are heckling the pannel on Question time, surprise surprise :grimacing:

Carryfast:

alicks77:

OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Ok you got me.

How is she anti democratic?

She’s obviously a Federalist not a Nationalist.Nuf said.In which case why would she be standing on the ( correct ) ticket that Scottish secession from the UK would return local democracy to Scotland IE English MP’s can’t decide Scottish policies only Scottish ones can.When she’s happy to throw Scottish government policy to the EU commision and EU QMV in which foreign politicians alone can thereby decide Scottish policy.With no right of opt out or sovereign control for the Nationalist Scots she supposedly represents.I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.

No I am sorry it’s not “nuff said”.

You seem to have this idea the political views are binary, where as they are really on a spectrum and you are allowed to take 1 part of a political belief and discard the rest.

The uk is a federal state at the moment anyway she just wants the top parliament to change from London to Brussels. Basically because I think she wants to do what a lot of the sovereign states in Europe do and generally ignore Brussels when they come out with some thing they don’t like.

FYI the snp use to be know as Scottish tories because they were so right wing and still are. So if you think they are liberal lefties you are wrong.

tommy t:
Some of the audience are heckling the pannel on Question time, surprise surprise :grimacing:

Do you mean out supporters in a BBC picked audience. :open_mouth: ( I’ve boycotted the TV media coverage output on grounds of it being biased ).

alicks77:

Carryfast:

alicks77:

OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Ok you got me.

How is she anti democratic?

She’s obviously a Federalist not a Nationalist.Nuf said.In which case why would she be standing on the ( correct ) ticket that Scottish secession from the UK would return local democracy to Scotland IE English MP’s can’t decide Scottish policies only Scottish ones can.When she’s happy to throw Scottish government policy to the EU commision and EU QMV in which foreign politicians alone can thereby decide Scottish policy.With no right of opt out or sovereign control for the Nationalist Scots she supposedly represents.I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.

No I am sorry it’s not “nuff said”.

You seem to have this idea the political views are binary, where as they are really on a spectrum and you are allowed to take 1 part of a political belief and discard the rest.

The uk is a federal state at the moment anyway she just wants the top parliament to change from London to Brussels. Basically because I think she wants to do what a lot of the sovereign states in Europe do and generally ignore Brussels when they come out with some thing they don’t like.

FYI the snp use to be know as Scottish tories because they were so right wing and still are. So if you think they are liberal lefties you are wrong.

So she’s a Socialist Federalist standing for a change in which Federation she owes her allegiance to ( because she thinks the EU is more Socialist than the UK ).IE she ain’t a Nationalist which would mean Scottish parliament having sovereignty over both the UK and the EU Federations.Which means not only isn’t she a Nationalist she’s a lying undemocratic zb standing on a Nationalist ticket.Just as Hitler was.

While the difference between Nationalist v Socialist is binary as the Germans and Europe found out in 1939 when Hitler joined Stalin in trying to take over sovereign countries like Poland.It’s also why Michael Collins wasn’t a ■■■■ just like Marine Le Pen isn’t. :unamused:

Assuming Left means what’s good for the working class what makes you think that Nationalist isn’t left ?.

Carryfast:

tommy t:
Some of the audience are heckling the pannel on Question time, surprise surprise :grimacing:

Do you mean out supporters in a BBC picked audience. :open_mouth: ( I’ve boycotted the TV media coverage output on grounds of it being biased ).

oh yes of course they hand pick both panel and audience members with their pro EU and pro establishment and bias and non independent agendas that’s the problem when government is one of their biggest paymasters (licence fee) the other being from the EU , But it’s rare when someone is even heard to heckle telling the gobs on the panel to shut it, :smiley: I have little doubt that they have since been removed though, as they don’t support real freedom of speech when it isn’t to their liking ie fits their lovey agenda, though how people can take eddie izzard seriously i don’t know dressed as he has , complete with lipstick and nail varnish, so he is aparently a trans gender , so what ? i don’t see that he has any right to promote this on tv, but i couldn’t care less what he does off screen

Carryfast:

alicks77:

Carryfast:

alicks77:

OVLOV JAY:
Those 3 definitley come across as bullies. Sturgeon is anti democratic and the other two are just screaming. There’s probably a load of stray dogs howling listening to those high pitched drones

Ok you got me.

How is she anti democratic?

She’s obviously a Federalist not a Nationalist.Nuf said.In which case why would she be standing on the ( correct ) ticket that Scottish secession from the UK would return local democracy to Scotland IE English MP’s can’t decide Scottish policies only Scottish ones can.When she’s happy to throw Scottish government policy to the EU commision and EU QMV in which foreign politicians alone can thereby decide Scottish policy.With no right of opt out or sovereign control for the Nationalist Scots she supposedly represents.I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.

No I am sorry it’s not “nuff said”.

You seem to have this idea the political views are binary, where as they are really on a spectrum and you are allowed to take 1 part of a political belief and discard the rest.

The uk is a federal state at the moment anyway she just wants the top parliament to change from London to Brussels. Basically because I think she wants to do what a lot of the sovereign states in Europe do and generally ignore Brussels when they come out with some thing they don’t like.

FYI the snp use to be know as Scottish tories because they were so right wing and still are. So if you think they are liberal lefties you are wrong.

So she’s a Socialist Federalist standing for a change in which Federation she owes her allegiance to ( because she thinks the EU is more Socialist than the UK ).IE she ain’t a Nationalist which would mean Scottish parliament having sovereignty over both the UK and the EU Federations.Which means not only isn’t she a Nationalist she’s a lying undemocratic zb standing on a Nationalist ticket.Just as Hitler was.

While the difference between Nationalist v Socialist is binary as the Germans and Europe found out in 1939 when Hitler joined Stalin in trying to take over sovereign countries like Poland.It’s also why Michael Collins wasn’t a ■■■■ just like Marine Le Pen isn’t. :unamused:

Assuming Left means what’s good for the working class what makes you think that Nationalist isn’t left ?.

You are right up until the second set of brackets, you are getting there mate. You can do it.

Ok so she’s a Scottish nationalist so she wants control over Scotland not the uk. She wants Scotland to be independent from UK. And yes she prefers EU to London.

And just because you have a political belief doesn’t mean you have to invade other countries, people have done it but it’s not mandatory. People might allege it’s because of a political belief but most times that’s an excuse to hide behind. Unless you think bush invaded Iraq to bring them wee Iraq democracy?