cav551:
So these imports may cost more - good then exactly as said, the product will need to be sourced from within the UK, (or perhaps from elsewhere) - which can only be good for British industry, the workforce and the tax receipts. A revival of Britain actually manufacturing things rather than progressing through an education system focused on university degrees in subjects which promote the sense of superiority among the graduates over the worker bees because they can sit on their arses all day in frankly unproductive useless employment rather than providing a product. Not true? so why has a career in engineering been frowned upon for so long? might that be because it is not a soft option either to study or practice.
Food more expensive and delayed? Oh dear, no more year round supply of out of season fruit and veg, what a shame. That will be a substantial number of lorries no longer coming and if they aren’t coming over than they won’t be queueing to get back either. If we aren’t overwhelmed with French Golden Delicious anymore then perhaps we may see a few more orchards replanted. Butter? ISTR that the price went up fourfold when the EU banned the UK from importing New Zealand Butter.
Less choice? Bad news for the consumer? perhaps, but strange how the growth in supermarket sales share is coming from the chains which offer fewer choices. The I want and I want it NOW attitude to everything - even though I can’t pay for it at the moment but I expect everyone else to pay for childcare for my kids - may not really be the way forward.
We hear a lot of predictions about our future, very often from those with scant knowledge of history, very little being said about what differences being a member of the EU made to the UK after the 1975 referendum; the referendum which asked if we thought the UK should stay in the Common Market, which the yes vote won. Funny thing was the deafening silence from the defeated No campaign on the subject of another referendum or two to overturn the result.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36367246
“So these imports may cost more - good then exactly as said, the product will need to be sourced from within the UK, (or perhaps from elsewhere) - which can only be good for British industry, the workforce and the tax receipts. A revival of Britain actually manufacturing things”
I too would like to see a revival of the UK manufacturing base. It has been destroyed by bad choices by UK Govs of all colours and insufficient investment by UK companies and investors.
Will Brexit bring this about? I wish it would, but cant see how. If UK goods sold abroad cost more because of WTO tariffs then businesses will invest LESS not more in the UK. Money has no patrimony. Business has no interest in "backing Britain". We need more sensible industrial strategy in the UK, agreed, but we can do that as well, or maybe better within the EU. The EU isnt to blame for our own failings. Our very own bunch of Gov fools manages quite well without any help!
In the current world we need free trade deals. Even many Brexiteers agree with that. So why chuck away the one were in now??!! So we can have some mystical, magical, better future deal? The one that the world is falling over themselves to give us? Scant evidence of that. Were being told that the two birds in the post Brexit bush are there. I cant see them. Id rather keep hold of the bird in my hand thank you.
The 1975 referendum was about 67% in 33% out, so a pretty clear result.
And shouldnt we vote on facts? In medicine the doctors talk of "informed consent" dont they? We decide whether or not we want an operation after the good and bad points are explained to us. False rumours about £350m a week and being told during Brexit doesnt necessarily mean leaving the customs zone doesnt qualify for that, does it?
Did you see this from a GasGas post ?
"The official Brexit campaign infamously claimed that voting to leave the EU would “save £350m a week”. It also promised control of Britain’s borders, controls of immigration, the freedom to strike trade deals, and to “make our own laws”.
It stated: “There is a free trade zone stretching all the way from Iceland to the Russian border. We will still be part of it after we Vote Leave.” Daniel Hannan, a Tory MEP and one of the faces of Vote Leave, declared: “Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market.” Boris Johnson, now foreign secretary, declared in the aftermath of the vote that Britain would retain access to the single market.
Verdict: This is the “having your cake and eating it” campaign. It would take a master negotiator to deliver the promises on slashing EU regulation and controlling immigration, while staying in the single market, since multiple EU leaders have said the four freedoms - freedom of goods, services, capital and labour - are indivisible."
newstatesman.com/politics/s … ers-say-so
A cynic may say we have to cast votes on speculation and false promises every general election. If so we get the chance to cast another vote when we find out the truth…well arent we finding out some of the lies and deceits of the leave campaign now? Shoudnt we get to have our say?
The faults, and they are many, of the EU have always been there to be seen. We all know of them, now we can see some of the faults and flaws and even some downright lies from the leave side.
EDIT Sunday morn to add link.
theengineer.co.uk/brexiteer … turing-uk/
What engineers say about Brexit.
