Eu referendum whats your vote

OUT OF HOURS BULLY'S TRUCKSTOP BAR (INTERACTIVE)
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Cartageman, what year are you taking about way before 1980, I bet.

AS for all the other debates, well not debates ,if you have left this country for pastures new, live there, stay there, stop moaning about BREXIT,ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU ,CAN YOU NOT GET THAT, ITS SIMPLE . you all made your choice ,yes even to Aussie ,New Zealand, Canada, and all other EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
For once, read and listen to carry fast ,and no, I ,for one ,do not want to read opinions of someone who as left this Island .PDB.

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Hi All, firstly the agent, a French company man took my papers at the port of entry and returned within 5 minutes with papers of entry stamped. Secondly the year was late 1969, tell the authorities and lose my job after working for the company for ten years was not an option. Also I did one nineteen ton load. I knew that I was preceded by another firm owned by our company.

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cartageman:
Hi All, firstly the agent, a French company man took my papers at the port of entry and returned within 5 minutes with papers of entry stamped. Secondly the year was late 1969, tell the authorities and lose my job after working for the company for ten years was not an option. Also I did one nineteen ton load. I knew that I was preceded by another firm owned by our company.

So the French agent took the papers into a UK Customs shed and returned in 5min with the clearance?
No visit to the “Vet”? OK.
And you didn’t bother speaking to the authorities, or the receiving customer in the UK, or the porters unloading you? OK.
Well I imagine the Londoners who bought and ate the beef are all really happy that you kept your job.
Hope you remain “alright Jack”.

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Catageman, yes I thought you must have been early one of the pioneers of meat haulage.

Franklais, The last thing you would do at any time would go to any authority ,do you think they would have listen to a driver .no chance.you worked and got paid ,can you imagine ringing the boss up and saying by the way I have just shopped the agent ,you would have been pleased to just get way …

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Cartageman sometimes in life one wishes one had kept quiet on ones experiences as now you have come across Mr Peter Perfect himself in the form of Franglais who has gone through life not doing anything wrong or even a bit shady. Strikes me he is confrontational a bit like old CF but at least some of the time CF speaks sense, not always just sometimes, best give this a wide birth or it will be like a dog with a bone, just saying Buzzer.

PS. with a touch of sarcasm to boot.

1406

Franglais:

cartageman:
Hi All, firstly the agent, a French company man took my papers at the port of entry and returned within 5 minutes with papers of entry stamped. Secondly the year was late 1969, tell the authorities and lose my job after working for the company for ten years was not an option. Also I did one nineteen ton load. I knew that I was preceded by another firm owned by our company.

So the French agent took the papers into a UK Customs shed and returned in 5min with the clearance?
No visit to the “Vet”? OK.
And you didn’t bother speaking to the authorities, or the receiving customer in the UK, or the porters unloading you? OK.
Well I imagine the Londoners who bought and ate the beef are all really happy that you kept your job.
Hope you remain “alright Jack”.

Firstly even regarding fully paid up members of the EU of today I think the rule concerning origin is based on where it’s packed not where it originates from ?.

While I don’t think we’ve got anything to learn from a country that likes chucking unpasteurised dairy products around Europe and that historically sees horse meat as a viable alternative to beef among other delicacies like force feeding geese until their livers explode and trapping tiny wild song birds and cooking and eating them.

As for food corruption that’s got zb all to do with being in or out of the EU.To the point where with all the so called EU controls we’ve somehow got horse meat being traded within the European single market as beef although our French neighbours probably don’t mind that anyway.

While we’ve also got knackered old dairy cows being legally flogged off as supposed ‘beef’ with no EU ruling that the difference has to be made clear to customer thinking that they are paying for top quality British beef like Hereford bulls.Look on the bright side that’s probably still better than eating bleedin horse. :unamused:

As for importing Argentine let alone African beef here to one of the best beef producing countries in the world it’s never made any sense to me.Especially when Africa is always moaning about its starving population.Again that argument has nothing to do with whether we are in or out of the EU.Although to be fair it was far more likely,that the difference between imported and domestic produced beef,would have been made clear to the customer assuming the local high street butcher,in the day,wanted to stay in business.With it being just as easy to know a decent piece of Brit beef from Argentine etc then as the far more likely possibility of getting a zb tough dry cut of old dairy cow now.The difference being that the supermarkets don’t care about repeat custom because there are plenty of other mugs.While the local butcher has the choice of join them or close down anyway.

1407

Hi, another point that I would make to Franglais re the French. At the slaughter house at the east side of Paris as we used to take beef to La Vilette, and you might see the drovers with sticks with sharp nails at the tip and if the animal won’t walk in the dirty ■■■■■■■■ poke them in the eyes. plus I have also witnessed a bullock get out and run off down the Peripherique, been stunned in the road and then towed back in on a rope. I would prefer the Germans to those heartless ■■■■■■■■■ Why we lost thousands of our soldiers to free them beats me. Mrs May wants to get a backbone and tell them to get stuffed.

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Wo is me as on the BBC news at six they announced that the price of a BLT sandwich will cost us more if there is a no deal scenario, what the ■■■■ does that matter in the grand scheme of things as we can eat an alternative and apparently all the BLT’s made here have Danish bacon, Dutch tomatoes & Spanish lettuce as they are the only suppliers of these ingredients & If you become ill by eating a British equivalent you will die as there wont be the medicine available to cure you, we might as well all give up now.
What will they try and scare us with next, look what happened when Edwina Curry started on about eggs and the industry almost collapsed, as I have said before no one really knows what will happen if no deal is reached, they also say transport will be affected with delays but that will hurt the EU more than us as we now only do 13% of the traffic too and from Europe.
Lets just get on with it and take what comes our way as anything is better than the German lead filthy alliance forcing there issues on us with no one with a backbone here in the UK to just tell them straight to get lost, Buzzer.

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Well said Buzzer ! tell it like it is Mate ! Yea! Oh! Yea! “the world as we know it will end in Armageddon next March so put your head between your legs and kiss your arse bye bye” Oh! Yez Oh! Yez ! Cheers Bewick.

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Buzzer:
Wo is me as on the BBC news at six they announced that the price of a BLT sandwich will cost us more if there is a no deal scenario, what the [zb] does that matter in the grand scheme of things as we can eat an alternative and apparently all the BLT’s made here have Danish bacon, Dutch tomatoes & Spanish lettuce as they are the only suppliers of these ingredients & If you become ill by eating a British equivalent you will die as there wont be the medicine available to cure you, we might as well all give up now.
What will they try and scare us with next, look what happened when Edwina Curry started on about eggs and the industry almost collapsed, as I have said before no one really knows what will happen if no deal is reached, they also say transport will be affected with delays but that will hurt the EU more than us as we now only do 13% of the traffic too and from Europe.
Lets just get on with it and take what comes our way as anything is better than the German lead filthy alliance forcing there issues on us with no one with a backbone here in the UK to just tell them straight to get lost, Buzzer.

They keep on and on banging on about how terrible it will be for British industry if there are delays at Dover. We like to go to Langdon Cliff several times a year just to watch the ferries come in and go out and view the giant toy set below us. Every so often it is: “look, look quick, there’s a British lorry over there can you see it?” I’m not in the slightest bit bothered about the actual lorries getting held up since the overwhelming majority are foreign and as we hear going out empty as well, so no reason for british industry to be worried about delays affecting its exports. I drive between J8 & J11 of the M20 either way several times a week and a lot of the time it is one constant stream of foreign artics. The only thing that upsets me is that the stinking Frogslegs and Sauerkrauts are in Britain in the first place. If there are delays on the French side with the foreign lorries trying to get across then I won’t be crying in my beer. Good riddance.

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cav551:

Buzzer:
Wo is me as on the BBC news at six they announced that the price of a BLT sandwich will cost us more if there is a no deal scenario, what the [zb] does that matter in the grand scheme of things as we can eat an alternative and apparently all the BLT’s made here have Danish bacon, Dutch tomatoes & Spanish lettuce as they are the only suppliers of these ingredients & If you become ill by eating a British equivalent you will die as there wont be the medicine available to cure you, we might as well all give up now.
What will they try and scare us with next, look what happened when Edwina Curry started on about eggs and the industry almost collapsed, as I have said before no one really knows what will happen if no deal is reached, they also say transport will be affected with delays but that will hurt the EU more than us as we now only do 13% of the traffic too and from Europe.
Lets just get on with it and take what comes our way as anything is better than the German lead filthy alliance forcing there issues on us with no one with a backbone here in the UK to just tell them straight to get lost, Buzzer.

They keep on and on banging on about how terrible it will be for British industry if there are delays at Dover. We like to go to Langdon Cliff several times a year just to watch the ferries come in and go out and view the giant toy set below us. Every so often it is: “look, look quick, there’s a British lorry over there can you see it?” I’m not in the slightest bit bothered about the actual lorries getting held up since the overwhelming majority are foreign and as we hear going out empty as well, so no reason for british industry to be worried about delays affecting its exports. I drive between J8 & J11 of the M20 either way several times a week and a lot of the time it is one constant stream of foreign artics. The only thing that upsets me is that the stinking Frogslegs and Sauerkrauts are in Britain in the first place. If there are delays on the French side with the foreign lorries trying to get across then I won’t be crying in my beer. Good riddance.

Agree whole heartedly mate but our company still does International work (Davies International Transport) although i am out of it retired my sons run the buisness now and we do alot of Pharmacutical work, but we only have ten trucks now so not like the 90’s when we had 30 on the go its just one scare threat after another at the moment we need some one like Rees Mogg in charge to sort the job out, fed up with the daily chit chat and the news channels are the worst for that Buzzer.

1412

Radio 4 every day at 13.30, “Brexit, a love story”, the history of us and Europe politically. Podcast it if you catch it and find it interesting. On next week too.

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gazzer:
Radio 4 every day at 13.30, “Brexit, a love story”, the history of us and Europe politically. Podcast it if you catch it and find it interesting. On next week too.

Gazzer whats the score with your pensions if no deal as i heard on the news they will not be legally allowed to pay them out as they have no licence to do so, what do you know Buzzer

1414

Ever since the UK joined the EEC/EU all they, The Frogs, Krauts, Cloggies ( and the Paddies) have wanted was our net contributions in the Billions of £’sss. And that’s all they are concerned about with Brexit ! We have, and will be, tret like an off shore banana republic ! We never had any say in the poxy ■■■■■ heap but Oh! they want our brass, oh! yes Sir ! So I say ■■■■ em ! and we are going our own way in the World like we always did over hundreds of years ! That ■■■■ Hammond wants stringing up with what he has just come out with ! As Jacob Rees Mogg has said “its just like a dog returning to its vomit” Well said Jacob you are a “top man” ! Cheers Bewick.

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Bewick:
Ever since the UK joined the EEC/EU all they, The Frogs, Krauts, Cloggies ( and the Paddies) have wanted was our net contributions in the Billions of £’sss. And that’s all they are concerned about with Brexit ! We have, and will be, tret like an off shore banana republic ! We never had any say in the poxy [zb] heap but Oh! they want our brass, oh! yes Sir ! So I say [zb] em ! and we are going our own way in the World like we always did over hundreds of years ! That [zb] Hammond wants stringing up with what he has just come out with ! As Jacob Rees Mogg has said “its just like a dog returning to its vomit” Well said Jacob you are a “top man” ! Cheers Bewick.

Don’t worry Denzil you’ll probably be pushing up the Daisy’s before you see any benefit of brexit , cheers Dan’l :laughing: :blush: :wink:

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Punchy Dan:

Bewick:
Ever since the UK joined the EEC/EU all they, The Frogs, Krauts, Cloggies ( and the Paddies) have wanted was our net contributions in the Billions of £’sss. And that’s all they are concerned about with Brexit ! We have, and will be, tret like an off shore banana republic ! We never had any say in the poxy [zb] heap but Oh! they want our brass, oh! yes Sir ! So I say [zb] em ! and we are going our own way in the World like we always did over hundreds of years ! That [zb] Hammond wants stringing up with what he has just come out with ! As Jacob Rees Mogg has said “its just like a dog returning to its vomit” Well said Jacob you are a “top man” ! Cheers Bewick.

Don’t worry Denzil you’ll probably be pushing up the Daisy’s before you see any benefit of brexit , cheers Dan’l :laughing: :blush: :wink:

No Dan’l your wrong there Mate ! Only the good die young which is why Larry, “H” and me( Oh! and “CF” :blush: ) will be around for many years to come so we will be here to see victory over those ■■■■■■■ in Brussels declared in the not too distant future ( hopefully ! :wink: ) Cheers Denz’l.

1417

cartageman:
Hi, another point that I would make to Franglais re the French. At the slaughter house at the east side of Paris as we used to take beef to La Vilette, and you might see the drovers with sticks with sharp nails at the tip and if the animal won’t walk in the dirty [zb] poke them in the eyes. plus I have also witnessed a bullock get out and run off down the Peripherique, been stunned in the road and then towed back in on a rope. I would prefer the Germans to those heartless [zb]. Why we lost thousands of our soldiers to free them beats me. Mrs May wants to get a backbone and tell them to get stuffed.

Let me say that I dont consider myself to be a soft, unrealistic, tree hugging vegan or whatever. I eat meat, drink milk, and do know animals must be slaughtered. However I dont hold with the unnecessary cruelty you describe.
I dont understand how blinding an animal will get it to move where you want it more quickly? But Im sure you know more than me.

And I still dont understand why you didnt tell your employer, of ten years, that you apparently suspected you were carrying unfit meat in your truck. Again , just me being naive maybe?

1418

Carryfast:

Franglais:

cartageman:
Hi All, firstly the agent, a French company man took my papers at the port of entry and returned within 5 minutes with papers of entry stamped. Secondly the year was late 1969, tell the authorities and lose my job after working for the company for ten years was not an option. Also I did one nineteen ton load. I knew that I was preceded by another firm owned by our company.

So the French agent took the papers into a UK Customs shed and returned in 5min with the clearance?
No visit to the “Vet”? OK.
And you didn’t bother speaking to the authorities, or the receiving customer in the UK, or the porters unloading you? OK.
Well I imagine the Londoners who bought and ate the beef are all really happy that you kept your job.
Hope you remain “alright Jack”.

Firstly even regarding fully paid up members of the EU of today I think the rule concerning origin is based on where it’s packed not where it originates from ?.

While I don’t think we’ve got anything to learn from a country that likes chucking unpasteurised dairy products around Europe and that historically sees horse meat as a viable alternative to beef among other delicacies like force feeding geese until their livers explode and trapping tiny wild song birds and cooking and eating them.

As for food corruption that’s got zb all to do with being in or out of the EU.To the point where with all the so called EU controls we’ve somehow got horse meat being traded within the European single market as beef although our French neighbours probably don’t mind that anyway.

While we’ve also got knackered old dairy cows being legally flogged off as supposed ‘beef’ with no EU ruling that the difference has to be made clear to customer thinking that they are paying for top quality British beef like Hereford bulls.Look on the bright side that’s probably still better than eating bleedin horse. :unamused:

As for importing Argentine let alone African beef here to one of the best beef producing countries in the world it’s never made any sense to me.Especially when Africa is always moaning about its starving population.Again that argument has nothing to do with whether we are in or out of the EU.Although to be fair it was far more likely,that the difference between imported and domestic produced beef,would have been made clear to the customer assuming the local high street butcher,in the day,wanted to stay in business.With it being just as easy to know a decent piece of Brit beef from Argentine etc then as the far more likely possibility of getting a zb tough dry cut of old dairy cow now.The difference being that the supermarkets don’t care about repeat custom because there are plenty of other mugs.While the local butcher has the choice of join them or close down anyway.

“Firstly even regarding fully paid up members of the EU of today I think the rule concerning origin is based on where it’s packed not where it originates from ?.”
There have I agree been problems with this, and it seems the EU is trying to stop it. And it seems to me to be easier for one authority to oversee this sort of thing rather than dozens of different national governments.

I agree that force feeding of geese or ducks is pretty bad.

I personally do eat horse meat and see nothing wrong in that. It is totally wrong however if horse is sold as beef. No defense at all for that.
The biggest problem with the 2013 horse meat scandal was that the horses were not raised or cleared for human consumption. They could have been sport horses treated with drugs such as Phenylbutazone which could be harmful to humans.
Selling of prime horse in place of beef? Since horse fetches a good price in France, and I believe Belgium too (?) why not sell it at a good price for what it is?
Any butcher who cant tell the difference (assuming its on the bone, not part of a mince mix) isn`t worthy of the name, surely?

“and trapping tiny wild song birds and cooking and eating them.”
A bit of an error here maybe? Not the French, but the Maltese, and it has been ruled illegal by the EU.
theguardian.com/environment … y-eu-court
Maybe you want to stand up for the rights of the Maltese to stand against the EU courts? Give them the right to behave as they wish in their own country?

EDIT. Agree with you that Food Corruption has naff all to do with being in the EU. Food corruption is a crime wherever it happens.

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Buzzer:

gazzer:
Radio 4 every day at 13.30, “Brexit, a love story”, the history of us and Europe politically. Podcast it if you catch it and find it interesting. On next week too.

Gazzer whats the score with your pensions if no deal as i heard on the news they will not be legally allowed to pay them out as they have no licence to do so, what do you know Buzzer

If I could be so bold to interject Buzzer,pensions are paid in 2 ways to EU expats,into the residents EU bank or into a UK bank,my state pension and my private pensions are all paid into my UK bank,from where I transfer dosh into my Portuguese bank,there is no problems with this even under a no deal,but it is obviously exchange rate dependant.
If state and private pensions are being directly paid into an EU bank,a licence will be required in order to be able to carryout the transaction into the EU bank in the event of a no deal.

David

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5thwheel:
If I could be so bold to interject Buzzer,pensions are paid in 2 ways to EU expats,into the residents EU bank or into a UK bank,my state pension and my private pensions are all paid into my UK bank,from where I transfer dosh into my Portuguese bank,there is no problems with this even under a no deal,but it is obviously exchange rate dependant.
If state and private pensions are being directly paid into an EU bank,a licence will be required in order to be able to carryout the transaction into the EU bank in the event of a no deal.

David

Mine are paid the same way, David, that way we can choose to transfer when we can get the best exchange rate, always accepting that we can wait long enough. But what I heard briefly on the radio the other day before I went away was that there may be trouble ‘accessing’ our pensions or having a UK bank account. Of course if we were denied the latter, then we would have a problem with the former.