fodenway:
Quote - Has he delivered on any of his promises yet? Weren’t we supposed to be out by this week (do or die)? Has he ever, in his whole life, told the truth about anything?
dexxy57
If it hadn’t been for the opposition parties throwing every obstacle they could find or invent against him, the job would have been done on the 31st. Even though they have agreed to a general election, the opposition factions can’t even agree whether they will allow it on the 9th, 11th or 12th of December. For Fawkes’ sake let the government get on with it. Get the exit done first, THEN have a GENERAL election, not one which is focussed almost entirely on Brexit, but about the day-to-day running of things like policing, education, health and transport. How would Ms. Swinson and her new pals feel if Boris insisted that revocation or further extension of Article 50 were taken off the agenda before any further progress could be made?
Johnson’s Brexit plans only failed because they found some opposition?
Who’d have known?
Can’t blame him for not seeing that coming I s’pose.
fodenway:
Quote - Has he delivered on any of his promises yet? Weren’t we supposed to be out by this week (do or die)? Has he ever, in his whole life, told the truth about anything?
dexxy57
If it hadn’t been for the opposition parties throwing every obstacle they could find or invent against him, the job would have been done on the 31st. Even though they have agreed to a general election, the opposition factions can’t even agree whether they will allow it on the 9th, 11th or 12th of December. For Fawkes’ sake let the government get on with it. Get the exit done first, THEN have a GENERAL election, not one which is focussed almost entirely on Brexit, but about the day-to-day running of things like policing, education, health and transport. How would Ms. Swinson and her new pals feel if Boris insisted that revocation or further extension of Article 50 were taken off the agenda before any further progress could be made?
Well said FW it ■■■■■■ me off when the BBC and other politicians continually quote Boris and his die in a ditch speech as the opportunity was taken away from him, IMHO if there was not the Benn act I believe we would have left without a deal of any sort and that was my preferred option on this fiasco but sadly we have to endure more waiting and more opportunities for these remainers to dream up other road blocks. So it looks like a general election is coming and what the outcome will be is any ones guess and as we have seen in the last three & a half years you cannot count on any outcome or end result, Buzzer.
Franglais:
“So the Americans want to invest a bit more on top” [the NHS].
No ****ing comment.
Asked Pat Haslar how well the US system works? Ask him how generous their US health insurance schemes are?
Any contracting out of NHS services by the UK Gov is determined by the UK gov. No EU directives telling the gov to cut taxes and spend less on health is there? If we’ve got poor investment in hospitals, schools and policing is it all Brussels fault or the Cancellor of the Exchequer?
Other countries do ok working to the same set of rules as us, so who’s to blame?
Going by his description of illness and treatment it’s highly likely that if Pat had been here he would have ended up railroaded into the palliative care regime you know like Liverpool Pathways.Deemed as too low priority and too expensive to treat.All as part of the types of the resourcing dilemmas faced by doctors in the NHS on a daily basis.So remind exactly how is the German health care system funded in that regard ?.Let me guess you’re going to try to say that there is no private involvement or private funding in that.
While you also know there are EU rules which would stop any government from removing private tendering in the health service.Especially which went along the lines of a nationalised domestic only supply base for the NHS for example.Therefore dis allowed under EU competition and state funded industry rules.Your Federalist champagne socialist hypocrisy is laughable being all for free markets when it suits you but obviously only those which help your kraut cronies.
How are ‘other’ EU countries supposedly working to the same set of ‘rules’ when the EU is all about looking after Germany’s economic interests and the Germans.As opposed to us lumbered with the worst of all worlds situation of a massive EU trade deficit combined with a massive net contribution and the resulting austerity needed to pay for the resulting loans to cover the resulting debt.To which your answer is more EU and obviously the zb Labour Party that’ll fix everything just like it did under Callaghan and Blair.Here’s a clue it doesn’t matter which government it is because it can’t spend money on the NHS which it hasn’t got.Because all the money in question is being spent on the thieving scroungers in mainland Europe to make Germany great again.So TBP introduces a German type private /national hybrid health service possibly using US private health care supplier involvement.What’s the big difference and why is that type of system obviously good for Germany but not for us.
Bearing in mind that it’s employers who are the final source of Health Care spending and if they want to cut that component of wage costs to increase their profits it doesn’t matter which system the worker in question finds themselves under NHS or US.The result will mean rationing.Possibly to the point of the with holding of life saving treatment and resulting deliberate side tracking into the ‘palliative care’ regime.
Good luck with that under self proclaimed euthanisers like zb son of a ■■■■ Juncker who overruled his own Head of State on that specific issue.
fodenway:
Quote - Has he delivered on any of his promises yet? Weren’t we supposed to be out by this week (do or die)? Has he ever, in his whole life, told the truth about anything?
dexxy57
If it hadn’t been for the opposition parties throwing every obstacle they could find or invent against him, the job would have been done on the 31st. Even though they have agreed to a general election, the opposition factions can’t even agree whether they will allow it on the 9th, 11th or 12th of December. For Fawkes’ sake let the government get on with it. Get the exit done first, THEN have a GENERAL election, not one which is focussed almost entirely on Brexit, but about the day-to-day running of things like policing, education, health and transport. How would Ms. Swinson and her new pals feel if Boris insisted that revocation or further extension of Article 50 were taken off the agenda before any further progress could be made?
If only the Lottery numbers were as easy to predict as the first sentence of your post.
Of course it’s not the fault of Boris that his promises haven’t been delivered. It’s that pesky opposition. They’re at it again. Opposing. The wee rascals.
Boris makes impossible promises, promises that he knows have no chance of being delivered. But it’s not HIS fault if they don’t come to pass.
fodenway:
Quote - Has he delivered on any of his promises yet? Weren’t we supposed to be out by this week (do or die)? Has he ever, in his whole life, told the truth about anything?
dexxy57
If it hadn’t been for the opposition parties throwing every obstacle they could find or invent against him, the job would have been done on the 31st. Even though they have agreed to a general election, the opposition factions can’t even agree whether they will allow it on the 9th, 11th or 12th of December. For Fawkes’ sake let the government get on with it. Get the exit done first, THEN have a GENERAL election, not one which is focussed almost entirely on Brexit, but about the day-to-day running of things like policing, education, health and transport. How would Ms. Swinson and her new pals feel if Boris insisted that revocation or further extension of Article 50 were taken off the agenda before any further progress could be made?
I’m with you on the GENERAL Election though. Policing, education, health, transport etc. seem to be getting very little attention in Parliament at the moment. A general election should be about the running of the whole country, not a specific issue.
dexxy57:
A general election should be about the running of the whole country, not a specific issue.
Which is obviously moot when ‘the country’ is a vassal state of a Federal Europe in which people like Verhofshite and Drunker have more say on how it’s is ‘run’ than anyone that we’ll be likely to get to vote for.
QUOTE - “If only the Lottery numbers were as easy to predict as the first sentence of your post.
Of course it’s not the fault of Boris that his promises haven’t been delivered. It’s that pesky opposition. They’re at it again. Opposing. The wee rascals.
Boris makes impossible promises, promises that he knows have no chance of being delivered. But it’s not HIS fault if they don’t come to pass.”
dexxy57
You mean the same opposition parties who all said “we must respect the outcome of the referendum” and then did all they could to prevent it?
fodenway:
QUOTE - “If only the Lottery numbers were as easy to predict as the first sentence of your post.
Of course it’s not the fault of Boris that his promises haven’t been delivered. It’s that pesky opposition. They’re at it again. Opposing. The wee rascals.
Boris makes impossible promises, promises that he knows have no chance of being delivered. But it’s not HIS fault if they don’t come to pass.”
dexxy57
You mean the same opposition parties who all said “we must respect the outcome of the referendum” and then did all they could to prevent it?
Well . . em . . yes. There was a Leave or Remain choice. There was no ‘this deal’ or ‘that deal’ on my ballot slip.
Are you confusing ‘Out’ with ‘leaving’?
Out and Leaving are two different things. You do know that. Don’t you?
Ramone:
If you get independence how are you going to run your hospitals and schools with no handouts from the UK and dont forget your contributions to the EU plus our divorce bill .Will the EU really want a country with a smaller population than London .They only want what they can get out of a country not what they can contribute
You mean like Luxembourg for instance 603,000, Malta 500,000, Cyprus 2m, Eire 5m, Estonia 2m, Lithuania 3m, Latvia 2m, Finland 6m, Denmark 6m, Slovenia 3m, Croatia 5m…Scotland 6m?
At least 9 countries smaller by population, and mostly by area, than Scotland. Not fake news or anything then.
Ramone:
If you get independence how are you going to run your hospitals and schools with no handouts from the UK and dont forget your contributions to the EU plus our divorce bill .Will the EU really want a country with a smaller population than London .They only want what they can get out of a country not what they can contribute
You mean like Luxembourg for instance 603,000, Malta 500,000, Cyprus 2m, Eire 5m, Estonia 2m, Lithuania 3m, Latvia 2m, Finland 6m, Denmark 6m, Slovenia 3m, Croatia 5m…Scotland 6m?
At least 9 countries smaller by population, and mostly by area, than Scotland. Not fake news or anything then.
ramone:
Anything the EU insist we must do is anything i disagree with , a bit like your Ma Kranky who wont listen to the people of scotland who voted NO to independence but still insists on another vote but she wants to bang on about scotland voting to remain one vote she likes she supports the orher she doesnt like she wants a recount. If you get independence how are you going to run your hospitals and schools with no handouts from the UK and dont forget your contributions to the EU plus our divorce bill .Will the EU really want a country with a smaller population than London .They only want what they can get out of a country not what they can contribute.
If she gives us another vote, fair enough, times change, opinions change. It’s not going to happen any time soon though.
The UK as a whole voted for Brexit. Now that they’ve seen the mess Theresa and Boris have made of handling things, maybe the UK has changed its mind too. Who knows? One things for sure, the Leave side are absolutely terrified of having another referendum. Yes, I know, Leave won and the result should be respected.
As for Scotland, the biggest incentive to vote for Independence is watching the [zb] that’s going on in Westminster right now. How did it come to pass that the most incompetent government in history chose the most incompetent PM in history to lead them? Has he delivered on any of his promises yet? Weren’t we supposed to be out by this week (do or die)? Has he ever, in his whole life, told the truth about anything?
This from a country with Ma Kranky in charge after Salmon was mysteriously pushed aside she wasn’t even voted in .The independence vote wasnt to her liking so she is telling the people of scotland what she thinks not what they think they voted with their feet
You keep banging on about May and Boris but all it is is that the opposition want to be in control at any cost they dont give a ■■■■ about this nation just self preservation
Oooh just a bit harsh, some people believe in Boris.
There you have it posted by a non contributor to our country who likes it so much he moved to France but still insists on telling us how to live. Not sure where the total British bit comes from but it goes to show is that he has no respect for British culture, our realm or the people that fought in the second world war he is trying to put a right wing angle on things. .The reason people voted leave was to take back control of our destiny .
Ramone:
If you get independence how are you going to run your hospitals and schools with no handouts from the UK and dont forget your contributions to the EU plus our divorce bill .Will the EU really want a country with a smaller population than London .They only want what they can get out of a country not what they can contribute
You mean like Luxembourg for instance 603,000, Malta 500,000, Cyprus 2m, Eire 5m, Estonia 2m, Lithuania 3m, Latvia 2m, Finland 6m, Denmark 6m, Slovenia 3m, Croatia 5m…Scotland 6m?
At least 9 countries smaller by population, and mostly by area, than Scotland. Not fake news or anything then.
Our divorce bill? Enlighten us Ramone.
Well the EU want a divorce bill paying maybe we should look at the same , free prescriptions ,free university we pay for that down here.Interesting when you take the euro
Ramone:
If you get independence how are you going to run your hospitals and schools with no handouts from the UK and dont forget your contributions to the EU plus our divorce bill .Will the EU really want a country with a smaller population than London .They only want what they can get out of a country not what they can contribute
You mean like Luxembourg for instance 603,000, Malta 500,000, Cyprus 2m, Eire 5m, Estonia 2m, Lithuania 3m, Latvia 2m, Finland 6m, Denmark 6m, Slovenia 3m, Croatia 5m…Scotland 6m?
At least 9 countries smaller by population, and mostly by area, than Scotland. Not fake news or anything then.
Look back and see what the EU said a few years ago they dont want scotland on its own they probably do now to break up the union
Ramone:
If you get independence how are you going to run your hospitals and schools with no handouts from the UK and dont forget your contributions to the EU plus our divorce bill .Will the EU really want a country with a smaller population than London .They only want what they can get out of a country not what they can contribute
You mean like Luxembourg for instance 603,000, Malta 500,000, Cyprus 2m, Eire 5m, Estonia 2m, Lithuania 3m, Latvia 2m, Finland 6m, Denmark 6m, Slovenia 3m, Croatia 5m…Scotland 6m?
At least 9 countries smaller by population, and mostly by area, than Scotland. Not fake news or anything then.
Our divorce bill? Enlighten us Ramone.
Well the EU want a divorce bill paying maybe we should look at the same , free prescriptions ,free university we pay for that down here.Interesting when you take the euro
Maybe ‘we’ should look at the same? By ‘we’ do you mean England?
fodenway:
QUOTE - “If only the Lottery numbers were as easy to predict as the first sentence of your post.
Of course it’s not the fault of Boris that his promises haven’t been delivered. It’s that pesky opposition. They’re at it again. Opposing. The wee rascals.
Boris makes impossible promises, promises that he knows have no chance of being delivered. But it’s not HIS fault if they don’t come to pass.”
dexxy57
You mean the same opposition parties who all said “we must respect the outcome of the referendum” and then did all they could to prevent it?
Well . . em . . yes. There was a Leave or Remain choice. There was no ‘this deal’ or ‘that deal’ on my ballot slip.
Are you confusing ‘Out’ with ‘leaving’?
Out and Leaving are two different things. You do know that. Don’t you?
My grammar school education must have been inadequate, I always thought that if someone was “in” somewhere and then went “out”, they’d “left”. Of course, if you are implying a different meaning of “out” that’s your prerogative, if that’s your thing, it was legalised in 1967
I think you already knew i meant Britain Dexxy you are a one aren’t you.
Be good to see how Scotland cope if they ever set up their version of the NHS , all that free movement draining it . But of course it won’t be your fault it never is when you can blame us. The EU have a good track record on bankrupt countries just ask the Greeks and Ireland , oh wait a minute didn’t we bail Ireland out with a loan . Spain ,Italy and Portugal are on the brink so good luck with your love for this corrupt organisation that started as a trade market but has now set its sights on ruling europe
