OwenMoney:
On top of the £4 000 000 000 costs so far (and mounting ) for a non- exit Brexit, I see the UK Govt are having to pay out £56.6 Million to the ferry companies as a result, on cancelled contracts- and P&O are planning to sue the Govt after the £33 Million ‘Given’ to Eurotunnel .
Excellent use of tax payers money - And potentially failing Grayling to replace May.
It would have bought a few buses for slogans .
If it all gets shunted back until this Autumn will there be another bonus for the ferry companies? Or will the Gov minister, whoever it is then, be put off by the present publicity and risk headlines of “Channel Chaos” in the red tops?
The same report stated that new contracts for ferries would be put out to tender for the end of October - An excellent xmas bonus for the ferry co’s.
Don’t understand the payout to Euro tunnel apparently because they were not informed of the governments idea of putting extra ferries on without there knowledge, in a normal business transaction you would never disclose your future plans to any opposition would you, DOH and now they are cancelled are they well there’s a thing, perhaps if it was Graylings own cash it would be different and it seems everything he touches turns to mud, he should be exterminated along with TM and a few others, Buzzer
Buzzer:
Don’t understand the payout to Euro tunnel apparently because they were not informed of the governments idea of putting extra ferries on without there knowledge, in a normal business transaction you would never disclose your future plans to any opposition would you, DOH and now they are cancelled are they well there’s a thing, perhaps if it was Graylings own cash it would be different and it seems everything he touches turns to mud, he should be exterminated along with TM and a few others, Buzzer
I don’t agree with your views on the severity of the punishment, but Grayling has the opposite of the Midas touch doesn’t he? Merd.us touch?
(Sorry)
I think the idea is that all Gov tenders should be well publicized to get a good competitive and low tender for us, and avoid favourtism and cronyism by bent politicians.
But you have a point, if they haven’t contributed to their training, however, tell me if I am wrong, but don’t they pay hefty fees for their 5 or whatever it is years at Uni to get where they are? So perhaps your question is answered.
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I put this to the Doctor in question, reply was, “dont forget some,including me, paid our way through medical training” but he could understand the reasoning as a lot get grants which I believe we pay for.
Both unsure what agreement is in place with Australia/Canada etc how the University pay back operates when someone emigrates.
Sorry about this, must get back to war and hating each other, 1917 ish. Harvey
Dont Canada and Australia have more stringent immigration laws than we do. Maybe Australia and Canada make immigrants pay for their own care. Now if thats the case then doctors will be far less stressed over there than here .I would bet that if we made immigrants pay for care here there wouldnt be the mayhem we have in the NHS. I had to go private and pay £300 for a steroid injection because my doctor was too busy
Whilst we all maybe disagree on the benefit of Brexit or otherwise, I would imagine that all of us with maybe the exception of CF agree on the zb that climate change faces us and our children/Grandchildren.
So if we really care about the future – which will be best for our survival - ‘Brexit going it alone along with Donald Trump’ or’ Remain: being part of a European team of Neighbours’ ?
Whilst we all maybe disagree on the benefit of Brexit or otherwise, I would imagine that all of us with maybe the exception of CF agree on the zb that climate change faces us and our children/Grandchildren.
So if we really care about the future – which will be best for our survival - ‘Brexit going it alone along with Donald Trump’ or’ Remain: being part of a European team of Neighbours’ ?
Your definition of ‘best’ obviously meaning whatever and whoever ‘you’ perceive as being ‘best’ for your own personal view and choice.In this case based on your perceived belief that you’ve got a ready made dictatorship to impose your personal view on us if we choose to reject it.So remind us why is it that your mate Sturgeon’s economic policy is based on the continuing sale of fossil fuel.As opposed to capping the North Sea oil wells beyond use.While your ridiculous belief in Sagan’s drug fuelled bs isn’t going to look so good when as a result the inevitable Chernobyl type disaster makes much of the country an uninhabitable waste land and destroys swathes of its agricultural production capacity.That’ll fix it.All to solve a non existent problem,regarding a non existent temperature rise,caused by the non existent link,between Earth’s negligible atmospheric CO composition and its atmospheric temperature.Or for that matter that of Venus.
Whilst we all maybe disagree on the benefit of Brexit or otherwise, I would imagine that all of us with maybe the exception of CF agree on the zb that climate change faces us and our children/Grandchildren.
So if we really care about the future – which will be best for our survival - ‘Brexit going it alone along with Donald Trump’ or’ Remain: being part of a European team of Neighbours’ ?
Remain: being part of a European team of Neighbours. But you really didn’t expect anything else from me, did you?
But apart from my obvious prejudice anyway, there is no contest between Europe and the US on the validity of, and commitment to, climate credentials, and the UK alone would struggle much more to keep up while trying desperately to keep up generally in a hostile world.
Spardo:
But apart from my obvious prejudice anyway, there is no contest between Europe and the US on the validity of, and commitment to, climate credentials,
More like no contest when it comes to the consumption of the natural resources of others.Meanwhile the reality v the Soviet Socialist rhetoric.So you intend to take coal and gas out of the EU’s let alone Germany’s energy policy.That’ll work.Especially when the electricity bill arrives on the door mats across Europe assuming they’ve got any electricity.
On that note no surprise that you don’t seem to want to have a go at Germany let alone China on the same basis as the US in that regard.Probably because as we all know the EUSSR is a covert attempt to impose Marxist type ideology on us and the bs ‘climate change’ agenda,in which double standards obviously apply to some more than others,is just a part of that.It’s equally obvious that as an obvious one of these Soviet style despots the definition of ‘validity’ is only that which you personally want it to be and agree with and intend to impose on that basis.
It will be interesting to see how the European elections go having seen how the local elections have gone. Having said that Liberals have had a good night but i would think that most who voted for them would be doing so in protest of the main two who are both a shambles at the moment. Its a wake up call that neither party will take any notice of because they are so out of touch and arrogant. I’m not too happy with our local results and think we should have another vote because most people didnt know what they were voting for
ramone:
It will be interesting to see how the European elections go having seen how the local elections have gone. Having said that Liberals have had a good night but i would think that most who voted for them would be doing so in protest of the main two who are both a shambles at the moment. Its a wake up call that neither party will take any notice of because they are so out of touch and arrogant. I’m not too happy with our local results and think we should have another vote because most people didnt know what they were voting for
ramone:
It will be interesting to see how the European elections go having seen how the local elections have gone. Having said that Liberals have had a good night but i would think that most who voted for them would be doing so in protest of the main two who are both a shambles at the moment. Its a wake up call that neither party will take any notice of because they are so out of touch and arrogant. I’m not too happy with our local results and think we should have another vote because most people didnt know what they were voting for
It’s obvious that if its a protest vote it’s just remainers doing all the ‘protesting’ and a vote for remain whether switching from Labour or Cons.I get the gut feeling including my own that the country is too far gone so let it go.Which is one of the reasons why I didn’t bother to vote.It was as good as lost in 1066 and this is probably just the end game playing out.LibDems voting for centralised foreign imposed dictatorship just because they think it’s in their own selfish interest.They couldn’t make it up.If the Queen doesn’t want to step in to stop an obvious agenda of foreign takeover helped by a fifth column within then why should I give a zb.I’ll probably be gone by the time the place realises its mistake anyway with EU Federal troops on the streets enforcing Federal rule over the place.
Unfortunately you can bet that all references of those of us who tried to stop it will be erased by that point so future generations of Nationalist ‘rebel seperatists’ will be cursing and blaming us all for selling their country out.
Buzzer:
If this is anything to go by I cant wait for the Euro elections, should be a ball, Buzzer
They’ll just rig it.
Ironically UKIP doubled its vote in the neighbouring ward which like ours is very hostile UKIP territory anyway which is why no one can be bothered to stand here.Or could it be that the supposed 30% turnout figure there was hiding something else ?.
Prepare to see a massive unexplained crash in the European elections turnout figure and with it UKIP vote if the theory is right.
" I’m not too happy with our local results … because most people didn’t know what they were voting for" (quote)
In my case, true ! There were four candidates hoping for support in my local council ward, yet not one of them bothered to inform me (or any of my neighbours) what they intended to do for the good of our local community, so I added a fifth option - “none of the above” - to my ballot paper and put a cross against it. Now, by not voting for a real candidate, I’ve given up my right to complain about the outcome, but I think I can live with that until a credible alternative comes along. I might be waiting a long time. I just hope the main parties realise that they can’t take things for granted, get their fingers out and do the job they’re elected to do.
fodenway:
" I’m not too happy with our local results … because most people didn’t know what they were voting for" (quote)
Now, by not voting for a real candidate, I’ve given up my right to complain about the outcome, but I think I can live with that until a credible alternative comes along. I might be waiting a long time.
No you haven’t, quite the opposite, you have given a positive abstentention, that’s what it’s all about. It’s those who can’t be bothered to vote at all that don’t deserve to moan.
Morning all,
Climate change: Fact, over 90% of Dinosaurs lived in forests and lived on plant life.
over 90% of Dinosaur remains are found in deserts to day.
Conclution: Cave men lighting fires in caves are responsible for climate change.
This is the tricky bit: What part of the world has the most caves, yes, France. Think we all know where this is going !!!
Harvey
HRS:
Morning all,
Climate change: Fact, over 90% of Dinosaurs lived in forests and lived on plant life.
over 90% of Dinosaur remains are found in deserts to day.
Conclution: Cave men lighting fires in caves are responsible for climate change.
This is the tricky bit: What part of the world has the most caves, yes, France. Think we all know where this is going !!!
Harvey
6 months ago the temperature in my garden was about +2degrees. It is now over 12degrees.
Definitive proof that Global warming is happening even quicker that previously thought.
agree on the zb that climate change faces us and our children/Grandchildren.
