There was an EU ■■■■■■■■ on Newsnight last night supposedly being interrogated (lamely) by Jonathan Powell (another ■■■■■■■■) and the EU Bloke made no bones about it as he said they had to stop the UK leaving the EU as it would set off a chain reaction in a few other countries to do the same as the UK. Whatever the outcome, and I hope we do vote LEAVE, there is bound to be a political upheaval in the UK and I have a sneaking suspicion that Nicola Sturgeon really wants an OUT vote then she can have another go for independence but even if she got it the Spaniards would never let the Scots into the EU because the Catalonia region of Spain would try for independence as well. The Spanish Civil war has never really gone away. Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
There was an EU [zb] on Newsnight last night supposedly being interrogated (lamely) by Jonathan Powell (another [zb]) and the EU Bloke made no bones about it as he said they had to stop the UK leaving the EU as it would set off a chain reaction in a few other countries to do the same as the UK. Whatever the outcome, and I hope we do vote LEAVE, there is bound to be a political upheaval in the UK and I have a sneaking suspicion that Nicola Sturgeon really wants an OUT vote then she can have another go for independence but even if she got it the Spaniards would never let the Scots into the EU because the Catalonia region of Spain would try for independence as well. The Spanish Civil war has never really gone away. Cheers Bewick.
It’s ironic that Sturgeon’s vote is all about taking advantage of Scottish Nationalism so that she can hand the place over to Merkel’s Socialist agenda. 
While the political ‘upheaval’ in question if we get a leave vote and assuming the establishment don’t rig it can only be a good thing in finally putting the pro EU establishment clique of no hopers like Blair,Corbyn,Clegg and Cameron etc out of the frame for good.
Evening all,
So our laws are not made in Euro land■■?..a questionable statement indeed…
Of course you all know of Danijim Vnuk…and how because of an accident that befell him, in far off sleepy Slovenia…The United Kingdom Road Traffic Act 1988 is in the process…(and we know how lethargic, and therefore very expensive such an act actually is)! to be amended and altered, and there will be a knock on cost to both the individual United Kingdom citizen, as well as throwing into a rather expensive confusion, our “trusted” friends in the Insurance Industry…
May I précis this ongoing saga…and of course it has not been even hinted at by our friends in the Remain sector…and even more concerning, not even by those in the Leave campaign…
So dear Damijin was working away at the top of a ladder on the farm of one Zaraovlnica Triglav, who came into the yard bestride his tractor, (make unknown, but I suspect not a Massey, or Deere)…and with lack of skill removed the ladder from under Damijin, who without support came, (like Humpty Dumpty), crashing down…
So from his Hospital bed quite rightly Damijin claimed against the insurance of dear old Zaraovlnica…only he had none…so off to Court we jolly well go…and through one Court to another, and eventually to the Supreme Court of Slovenia…Who in their wisdom simply passed on this interesting legal conundrum to that august body…The Court of Justice of the European Union…(CJEU…in Eurospeak).
This body considered the issue in the light of the European Union Motor Insurance Directive 2009, and have ruled, (and for the sake of not sending both all of you…and myself to sleep, I will simplify their ruling), that any object that has the ability to move itself along by use of a power unit, WHEREVER it is operated , and by whosoever…MUST, henceforth have adequate insurance cover against third party claimants.
This catch all decision concerns all types of construction, farm, business, and leisure “objects”, (Not all in the courts designation are even remotely “vehicles” of any type)…So there is now a debateable point for our UK Motor Insurance Bureau, (MIB…must keep to Eurospeak). Now members of the MIB have to lodge a substantial bond, the accumulated wealth covering the contingencies caused by the antics of the ever increasing number of un-insured drivers…(and again in the urge for brevity, I will not discuss the analitical statistics of which sector of society they come from)…
So the CJEUs decision has now opened a rather large potential black hole in the Insurance world, …where does this legislation sit?..well it does not go easily with Employers liability…although some would claim that it did…Nor does it easily sit with Public Liability…though some would claim that it did…and the MIB claim its not with us BECAUSE the Road Traffic Act 1988 states Insurance coverage for use on the public Highway…as did the legislation in dear old Slovenia where this conundrum originated…
So to cover all eventualities created by this CJEU ruling the UK Government MUST amend the Road Traffic Act 1988 to reflect this legislation…despite the ongoing conflict between the various factions of the Insurance Industry, as to who bears the burden…AND…just who will pay…and what level the premium will be set at!..(if you are all still awake, or have not yet lost the will to live…that is you and me my friends)!!!
Meanwhile from our friends in Bruxells comes the thread to HM Government of a Francovitch Action, with its resulting substantial fine, (a Francovitch Action, is an action taken under European Law against a member state who does not implement European Law within its Borders)…
Wonder whose desk that lot is sitting on…and I wonder why no one has said a dicky bird about it so far…
Yes there are other bizare bits of European legislation that I could drag out to bore you with…but think on…just how truly eroded our Sovereignty really is…only very few realise it…and the bulk of the legal profession, even though they, more so than any other profession have “front line” experience of this erosion of our legal system, keep fairly quiet, …well, they have a living to uphold!!
Bring back Lord Denning I say…and his" Red Hand"…
A substantial Bollinger I fear is needed tonight.
Cheerio for now.
Just watched “How to get a council house”.
Out.
Saviem:
So dear Damijin was working away at the top of a ladder on the farm of one Zaraovlnica Triglav, who came into the yard bestride his tractor, (make unknown, but I suspect not a Massey, or Deere)…and with lack of skill removed the ladder from under Damijin, who without support came, (like Humpty Dumpty), crashing down…
Great.So the end game is that the European Motor Insurance Industry will be liable for any type of accident taking place ‘offroad’ even if possibly caused by the drinking habits of Balkan ( or French or Italian ) farmworkers.What could possibly go wrong. 
As for the names it sounds like a similar incident taking place in Scotland involving a tractor driven by Mr. Ben Mc Nevis who may or may not have been under the influence of a considerable amount of Glennfidich not Slivovitz in that case.
Morning all,
Oh Carryfast, I only wish that I were making light of this…It is actually going on as we start a new day, and is a simple representation of just how entwined we have now become.
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
Morning all,Oh Carryfast, I only wish that I were making light of this…It is actually going on as we start a new day, and is a simple representation of just how entwined we have now become.
Cheerio for now.
Ironically there’s probably more chance that Le Pen will save us all from Merkel’s and Juncker’s nightmare then Farage and Boris.Deservedly so 
OUT. Lets get the Great back in Great Britain !!!
What frustrates me as when I ask people I know which way they will vote most say im’e undecided at the moment, then I think do they really know what’s happening in the EU or have any idea how its run, this is so important as “Dave” says its more important than the national election which will surely be a thing of the past as we wont need a British government if we stay in as everything will be orchestrated from Brussels, and then they will all be out of a job.
Program on channel four tonight “Boris versus Dave” might be worth a viewing just to see what interesting facts emerge from that pair, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Program on channel four tonight “Boris versus Dave” might be worth a viewing just to see what interesting facts emerge from that pair, Buzzer.
Everyone seems fixated on the Boris v Cameron fight.When Farage or David Davis v Cameron and Hoey v Corbyn is more relevant.
Carryfast:
Buzzer:
Program on channel four tonight “Boris versus Dave” might be worth a viewing just to see what interesting facts emerge from that pair, Buzzer.Everyone seems fixated on the Boris v Cameron fight.When Farage or David Davis v Cameron and Hoey v Corbyn is more relevant.
Agree with you but at least Boris is batting for our team, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Carryfast:
Buzzer:
Program on channel four tonight “Boris versus Dave” might be worth a viewing just to see what interesting facts emerge from that pair, Buzzer.Everyone seems fixated on the Boris v Cameron fight.When Farage or David Davis v Cameron and Hoey v Corbyn is more relevant.
Agree with you but at least Boris is batting for our team, Buzzer.
That’s fair enough especially recently he seems to have toughened up his opposition to Cameron regarding the desperate economic scare tactics.But no surprise Hoey seems to have been gagged in the media v Corbyn.Probably because the in campaign knows the importance of the Labour vote.
Buzzer:
What frustrates me as when I ask people I know which way they will vote most say im’e undecided at the moment…
I cant work out how anyone over the age of 30 can still be “undecided”!! What more does it take? How many more years do they want to wait before they decide?? How much more of a dogs dinner has this country, OUR country, got to become before the “undeciders” make a decision?
We are already the soup kitchen of Europe, the benefit office for every free loading scum bag from all over the planet! What will it take for an undecider to decide? To make a choice?
Once again it looks like France or it’s workers are bringing the country to a total standstill, as usual not a lot is done to try and prevent this.
When you look at France’s economy its not all that bright and these workers are all pushing for a 35 hour week, how come then is it that we have all the Polish and other EU workers wanting to come here to work, why don’t any of them want to flood the French working scene or am I missing something here, perhaps the French union’s wont permit it.
On Television the other night there was a farmer in Lincolnshire and he was paying his foreign workers £10 an hour (well above the living wage) and he stated he would employ British people but they don’t want to do the work, by god they would if they had no dole money and no food to eat.
When I voted for “call me Dave” I thought right you got both boots on now so sort our country out, in my world you got five years of power which is easily long enough to sort the dole system out once and for all and face the flack the worst that can happen is you get chucked out at the end of your term but you could get these lazy sods back in harness some of who don’t know what its like to be somewhere to start work at eight am and before you say what work I would have them litter picking or some other menial tasks to benefit the communities they reside in if there was nothing else at least they would know what 8 hrs a day working was like.
It would be a lifesaver for this once great place, sad to admit we are doomed we borrow far too much and then hand it to Brussels for there corrupt little games.
Also on the news tonight it was stated that two thirds of Scotland want to stay IN the EU, we should have let them go and finance themselves even if to see just how well they got on or not as the case may be, at least we would have seen how Miss Sturgeon handled the situation. The Scots want to stay in as they have had millions handed to them from Brussel’s but the money is going to run out very soon , too many taking and not enough putting back in. Well that’s my rant for today over, what do you lot think ? Buzzer.
let Scotland remain in the corrupt EU…the rest of the UK must LEAVE!
One thing Buzzer we all support each other on here brilliant rant. i try not to watch any new programs at all, what did you name Mr BULL or was it MR BULL…i hope the pup is having lots of treats…
I say bring back short trousers up un till 14 years old ,smoking compulsory for income tax reasons and the economy .no none English to be on any union executive board in ENGLAND…IF SCOTS LIVING HERE MUST VOTE OUT or go back.and longer beds and longer in them…pdb
robert1952:
It’s written on a lorry so it MUST be right! Robert0
Robert,
Even a renault ■■ thought old Boris might have dragged an old ERF out of the nettles somewhere at least…
Tubbysboy:
robert1952:
It’s written on a lorry so it MUST be right! Robert0
Robert,
Even a renault ■■ thought old Boris might have dragged an old ERF out of the nettles somewhere at least…
Yes, you’d have thought he’d have the decency to dust down that ERF - mind you, knowing Boris’s quirky views about wagons he’d have found one with a dustbin lorry cab on it! Robert
This is not a statement of fact, because I doubt if the facts are actually available. It is my opinion.
Yes, it’s a Renault. Probably because the French Unions would not let the French Government allow such an industry to die - even if they were striking for a 35 hour week, and a pension paid at age 55. The French government would then ignore all the EEC/EU -whatever it is at the time - rules and protect the industry. The other member countries would shrug and allow it.
Good old UK would enforce every EEC/EU rule to the hilt, pay any fine the EEC/EU imposed and let the industry die.
I think getting out levels the playing field far more than staying in.
I do worry that most of the younger people seem more concerned that they might be inconvenienced by having to get a visa to travel abroad than any vision of our country being a cow to milked hard and often.
As said. My opinion only.
John