Eu referendum whats your vote

let’s get off the sinking ship before it takes us down with it.

short walk:
As an expat living in DK I’m voting out and reckon very soon after many of my countrymen will be wanting the same! We’re all sick of it, corrupt pocket lining zb’ see! Total bloody shambles esp our transport industry. Roll on 23rd!

I am definitely going to vote OUT, my only reservation on the referendum is, why are expats being allowed to vote? When the Scots had their referendum, only residents of the country at the time (and rightly so in my opinion)were on the electoral roll. Regards Kev.

Ex pats are allowed to vote up to 15 years after leaving the UK i beleive.

Hi SHORT WALK you have all ready left for economic reasons ie work for a Danish company i assume haulage… corrupt, pocket lining, do you not think the Danish haulage system is not run on the same lines, same.using foreign labour [ that is a question,]yes i know you pay tax etc… what percentage do you pay compared to ENGLAND…and get registered …Do you think the Danes would consider coming out?

Yes all former Western European countries are using this unfair cheap labour and DK is no exception, yes I reckon once Britain exits there will be others following. I don’t see how we can’t continue trading and travelling without this total political union that the socialists in Brussels seem to crave. Out!

Well a vote for in may as well be the last vote you ever need to cast. I f we vote in our MPs won’t matter . All tht they will be there for is toi publish what we 've been told to do by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. Via the orders of the conglomerates and shyster bankers. VOTE OUT! Lots of people are on about human rights GB had most of these things before EU nd a for working peoples rights Zero hours contracts!" Are they a good thing because that is what most people will eventually finish up with. Who as the human rights heled besides rapists, terrorist . killers evil scum bags? The human right was backed by Blairenow honour should of declared that it didn’t give himself any gains . Yet his wife has made £millions from it ! L ets see if we can get some decent politians in power OUT!!
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john7420:
Well a vote for in may as well be the last vote you ever need to cast. I f we vote in our MPs won’t matter . All tht they will be there for is toi publish what we 've been told to do by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. Via the orders of the conglomerates and shyster bankers. VOTE OUT! Lots of people are on about human rights GB had most of these things before EU nd a for working peoples rights Zero hours contracts!" Are they a good thing because that is what most people will eventually finish up with. Who as the human rights heled besides rapists, terrorist . killers evil scum bags? The human right was backed by Blairenow honour should of declared that it didn’t give himself any gains . Yet his wife has made £millions from it ! L ets see if we can get some decent politians in power OUT!!
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Picked up me Daily Mail today and this is the headline, we have been ordered by Brussels to build 220,000 more houses a year to cope with the influx of EU immigrants. This is unbelievable in a country which now apparently does not belong to us any more and being controlled from Brussels by un elected personal. The point being that true British citizens are finding it increasingly harder to get on the housing ladder, this has got to stop now and we should all vote to leave for our own and what was our countries sake, OUT OUT OUT and the sooner the better.

Buzzer:
Picked up me Daily Mail today and this is the headline, we have been ordered by Brussels to build 220,000 more houses a year to cope with the influx of EU immigrants. This is unbelievable in a country which now apparently does not belong to us any more and being controlled from Brussels by un elected personal. The point being that true British citizens are finding it increasingly harder to get on the housing ladder, this has got to stop now and we should all vote to leave for our own and what was our countries sake, OUT OUT OUT and the sooner the better.

What a surprise EU membership means that we’ve also handed over control of planning policy to Merkel.While according to dodgy Dave the ‘National’ Planning Policy Framework is supposed to put planning decisions into the hands of local democracy.While the reality is that it not only allows the GLA to decide Surrey’s/Kent’s/Herfordshire’s etc future it also obviously allows Merkel to flood the country with the immigrants that she’s letting in as part of her stasi inspired Eurasian takeover of Europe. :imp:

As for out.History suggests that this won’t be settled peacefully or democratically with the Socialists having seemed to have now got a strangle hold over proceedings.

A couple of thoughts:
Jeremy Paxman did a very good programme the other night from Brussels about the whole EU nonsense. Apart from the straight cucumbers question he mentioned EU16206/12, a directive that is called ‘The Breakfast Directive’. So I looked it up and it does indeed deal with the quality and yummyness of breakfast foods. It includes Coffee, Chocolate and Hazelnut Spread. There is no mention whatever of Bacon, Bubble and Squeak or Black Pudding. Yet another example that the UK has no place in this ‘organisation’.
But on a more serious note he did interview some British ‘youth’. Apart from all the claptrap about their not feeling citizens of any Country but rather feeling ‘citizens of the World’ it was obvious that, as it has been said in the press, yoof seems in favour of continued membership of the EU. So I got to thinking; I, like the majority here, have no doubt that we should vote to leave but I am retired and my pension will probably last long enough to see me out but the real effects of the referendum will not be felt by us but will be felt by todays yoof.
So here is my question; should silly old bu**ers like us even be able to vote or should it be restricted to, say, the under 50s? Not that my rambling thoughts will stop me from voting OUT come the day of course.

David

David Miller:
A couple of thoughts:
Jeremy Paxman did a very good programme the other night from Brussels about the whole EU nonsense. Apart from the straight cucumbers question he mentioned EU16206/12, a directive that is called ‘The Breakfast Directive’. So I looked it up and it does indeed deal with the quality and yummyness of breakfast foods. It includes Coffee, Chocolate and Hazelnut Spread. There is no mention whatever of Bacon, Bubble and Squeak or Black Pudding. Yet another example that the UK has no place in this ‘organisation’.
But on a more serious note he did interview some British ‘youth’. Apart from all the claptrap about their not feeling citizens of any Country but rather feeling ‘citizens of the World’ it was obvious that, as it has been said in the press, yoof seems in favour of continued membership of the EU. So I got to thinking; I, like the majority here, have no doubt that we should vote to leave but I am retired and my pension will probably last long enough to see me out but the real effects of the referendum will not be felt by us but will be felt by todays yoof.
So here is my question; should silly old bu**ers like us even be able to vote or should it be restricted to, say, the under 50s? Not that my rambling thoughts will stop me from voting OUT come the day of course.

David

Hello David! I too enjoyed Paxman’s exploration of the Brussels stich-up, if only for its absence of bias - a rare thing on TV nowadays. I do think the ‘yoof’ need to wake up to the fact that you can enjoy being a global villager without handing over the democratic ideal to an entirely undemocratic machine. As for us oldies: I might live for another 40 years yet! Admittedly I’d be 104 but even 30 years is a long time - far too long to be thinking that a brexit wouldn’t effect the post-war bulge. No, I will claim my voice alongside the yoof :wink: .Robert

Good morning Robert.

I admire you conviction that yoof are capable of making such a complex decision. :smiley:

David

Now the chancellor of the exchequer has announced that if we leave the EU we who own our homes will lose 18% of the value of our property now exactly how he has come to that conclusion baffles me, the only thing he is doing is scare mongering as in life I have always found the price of a commodity is always dictated by supply and demand and at the moment houses are in the latter category. This statement may backfire on him as for many in this country would love the price of property to ease so that they may just be able to get a foot on the housing ladder and therefore if they thought this was the case they would vote out along with me, Buzzer.

robert1952:

David Miller:
A couple of thoughts:
Jeremy Paxman did a very good programme the other night from Brussels about the whole EU nonsense. Apart from the straight cucumbers question he mentioned EU16206/12, a directive that is called ‘The Breakfast Directive’. So I looked it up and it does indeed deal with the quality and yummyness of breakfast foods. It includes Coffee, Chocolate and Hazelnut Spread. There is no mention whatever of Bacon, Bubble and Squeak or Black Pudding. Yet another example that the UK has no place in this ‘organisation’.
But on a more serious note he did interview some British ‘youth’. Apart from all the claptrap about their not feeling citizens of any Country but rather feeling ‘citizens of the World’ it was obvious that, as it has been said in the press, yoof seems in favour of continued membership of the EU. So I got to thinking; I, like the majority here, have no doubt that we should vote to leave but I am retired and my pension will probably last long enough to see me out but the real effects of the referendum will not be felt by us but will be felt by todays yoof.
So here is my question; should silly old bu**ers like us even be able to vote or should it be restricted to, say, the under 50s? Not that my rambling thoughts will stop me from voting OUT come the day of course.

David

Hello David! I too enjoyed Paxman’s exploration of the Brussels stich-up, if only for its absence of bias - a rare thing on TV nowadays. I do think the ‘yoof’ need to wake up to the fact that you can enjoy being a global villager without handing over the democratic ideal to an entirely undemocratic machine. As for us oldies: I might live for another 40 years yet! Admittedly I’d be 104 but even 30 years is a long time - far too long to be thinking that a brexit wouldn’t effect the post-war bulge. No, I will claim my voice alongside the yoof :wink: .Robert

As I’ve said elsewhere I’d disagree with any supposed ‘absence’ of typical BBC bias in his programme.If it was truly unbiased then at least the supposed subliminal messaging that young people across Europe are predominately Socialist not Nationalist in their ideology would have been tempered with this.On that note it’s clear that in the BBC we’re dealing with as much a Socialist infiltrated institution as the German government and its EU puppets like Juncker.

youtube.com/watch?v=nO6_fj9XTuQ

youtube.com/watch?v=GGlNCdG23rg

Buzzer:
Now the chancellor of the exchequer has announced that if we leave the EU we who own our homes will lose 18% of the value of our property now exactly how he has come to that conclusion baffles me, the only thing he is doing is scare mongering as in life I have always found the price of a commodity is always dictated by supply and demand and at the moment houses are in the latter category. This statement may backfire on him as for many in this country would love the price of property to ease so that they may just be able to get a foot on the housing ladder and therefore if they thought this was the case they would vote out along with me, Buzzer.

Housing ‘affordability’ has nothing to do with supply.Hence why some of the largest housing problems are in the areas with the greatest supply like Greater London as opposed to ■■■■■■■■■■■■■ Yorkshire and Scottish Highlands for example.More like over demand combined with downward pressure on wages in an over supplied labour market.None of that will be fixed by continuing in an environment of open door EU immigration.

Sorry CF but housing affordability has a lot to do with what’s available on the market as such with any other commodity, if there is not enough supply and it is wanted the price goes up, weather you can afford to pay the price is all together a different question, some people don’t want and will never buy even if they can afford to do so, its the same with cars some buy some lease its what ever you wish to do.
Other than this I think we are wanting the same outcome on the EU vote and that is OUT asap but I still have my doubts about how clean the fight will be. At least if we stay in there will be no necessity for any form of government in the UK as all our decisions are made in Brussel’s now by the unelected group who manage our laws and what we have to comply with, in fact I don’t quite understand why they are still there now as they are a expense we could dispense with, Buzzer.

Buzzer:
Sorry CF but housing affordability has a lot to do with what’s available on the market as such with any other commodity, if there is not enough supply and it is wanted the price goes up, weather you can afford to pay the price is all together a different question, some people don’t want and will never buy even if they can afford to do so, its the same with cars some buy some lease its what ever you wish to do.
Other than this I think we are wanting the same outcome on the EU vote and that is OUT asap but I still have my doubts about how clean the fight will be. At least if we stay in there will be no necessity for any form of government in the UK as all our decisions are made in Brussel’s now by the unelected group who manage our laws and what we have to comply with, in fact I don’t quite understand why they are still there now as they are a expense we could dispense with, Buzzer.

Let’s just say that the supply and demand side of the equation are interchangeable and demand is just a reflection of population levels.In which case as in London and the South East v ■■■■■■■■■■■■■ Yorkshire etc etc it’s more an issue of population distribution than housing supply.At least here the situation having long ago reached the point where increasing the supply solves nothing.While just creating the worst of all worlds situation of expensive housing costs combined with unsustainable quality of life issues and over supplied labour market holding down wages relative to housing costs.

Which explains the paradox of the highest housing costs being in areas of most supply like London and the South East and why we’ve now reached the stand off between those of us who want to keep what remains of the South East tenable in that regard v those who want to expand London by bulldozing what remains of the Green Belt in the surrounding Counties with history already proving it solves nothing.

Adding Merkel’s Eurasian project to that situation,in which for some reason the EU wants to disproportionately concentrate a massive immigrant population in Britian,will obviously just make matters far worse in that regard.On that note if the Scottish and Northern vote keeps us in the scam,as usual we can bet that it won’t be the Scottish and Northern areas that take their fair share of the resulting immigrant invasion. :unamused:


Advance apologies to anyone this offends but this is a Greek view:

This is worth a listen. Although old it is very appropriate for our situation now.

youtube.com/watch?v=f6a_weyzkY4

David

EU FACES RUIN : Staggering admission from Juncker as he admits EU DOES meddle too much.
Jean Claude Juncker said the dream of the EU could collapse.
VOTERS all over Europe have lost faith in the EU because of its meddling in there lives, the most senior Brussels bureaucrat admitted.

Don’t be under illusion even in the rest of the EU they think it is nearly all over and if we pull out as I hope we will, watch the whole lot come crashing down, every one is fed up and we can save ourselves £350 million a day in the process, Buzzer.