Franglais:
cav551:
Food & DrinkThe point is that we do not need year-round supply of every conceivable item of fruit and veg, we can manage quite well without. As for Milk, eggs, potatoes and much of the fruit and veg, I am certain that given the market, our indigenous farmers will be only too pleased for the opportunity to start supplying the produce. I can name former suppliers which the supermarkets have put out of business or drastically affected by electing to source potatoes and mushrooms from Europe rather than the UK. The French, Germans, Spanish and Italians would do well to remember that they do not have the monoploly on growing grapes nor is their product cheaper than their competitors’.
Did those who voted out realize they were voting for the type of Brexit where their daily diet could be changed as you suggest?
There is an argument many of us eat too much sugary and fatty foods, but rationing by price and availability isnt what was promised. "our indigenous farmers will be only too pleased for the opportunity to start supplying the produce." Who is preventing them now? And Rees-Mogg has predicted that there will be cheaper imports, as you too suggest. Under WTO rules we must treat all importers equally. So very cheap produce from some countries will be undercutting our own farmers. Not such a good business opportunity for them really? I cant see what you`re predicting? Shortages or a flooding of the home market by cheap food? Both seem bad to me in the longer term.cav551:
Borders, Silly Buggers and StandardsIIRC Brexit is due at 23.00 March 29th. So exactly in what way does any product, service, standard, accreditation etc physically differ between 22.59 and 23.01? The answer is it [zb] doesn’t. There is no reason at all why existing standards, security, intelligence, accreditation etc cannot continue to be recognised by the UK and by the EU. It is quite obviously in both their interests to do so, but the empire building political fat bellies are so full of their own importance that they continue to play silly buggers over issues children would laugh at. Oh we can’t do that can we? that would make them all look like the [zb] they are. The only thing to change would be the UK’s right to import, for domestic consumption only, goods to different standards. Likewise the UK would export goods to non EU destinations which meet for example US regulations. If a UK company was to invent a perpetual motion machine or a means to turn water directly into fuel then one can be ■■■■ sure that the EU’s standards rule book would go out of the window faster than you can say Jack Robinson. As for smuggling contraband or non compliant goods across non existent borders - that doesn’t happen at the moment does it?
One of the reasons to leave the EU is to have control over standards isn
t it? Its an illusion. If we have significantly different standards would we accept their goods? Of course not, so why would expect them to accept ours?
How efficient are widget factories making goods to two different standards instead of just one?
Smuggling happens? So does murder in spite of laws against it. No one says “Well, it happens anyway, so let`s ignore it”.cav551:
What annoys me is the money and time which has been wasted in arguing over this non existent ■■■■■■■■. We the EU are not going to share criminal and security intelligence with the UK after Brexit. Because it is in anyone’s interest? Jesus wept.I agree. The non-existant £350m bonus has been spent already on this wild unicorn chase already.
Non Sharing of security info? If that comes about it will be inexcusable, agreed.cav551:
The whole thing comes down to shekels, the EU wants us to finance their grandiose schemes, which is why they are determined to try to prevent us from leaving.Shekels? Gains by not contributing to the EU, whilst studiously ignoring losses from probable decreased trade, increased cost of trading, and similar blinkered viewing of the figures.
“Leave” were obsessed with that £350m lie weren`t they? Quiet about it after the vote though.
Firstly no surprise that you’re typically desperately exaggerating to the point of laughability a worse case scenario created by any potential free for all access to our food market sector.When it’s clear that the supermarkets are already massively supplied by domestic food production.To the point where as I said we don’t generally even need to buy Euro imports even if they were there to buy.On that note feel free to show any meat counter or pre pack section which isn’t dominated by domestic meat production for just one example.The same applies to fruit and veg which is mostly dominated by domestic products and if not non EU imports with some Spanish exceptions proving the rule.
As for the 350 m.That’s a ‘lot’ closer to the truth.
Than your bs claims that our EU net contributions,combined with our net trade deficit and the free movement of cheap labour and capital and EU competition rules,is all good for our economy.When the national debt and resulting austerity along the lines that all the profits belong to Germany,but all the debt belongs to the UK among others like Greece proves otherwise.
But as I said there’s no point in going along with Cameron’s obvious plan to remove UKIP from the EU in the form of May’s BRINO ‘deal’.We might as well remain and help the AfD etc to smash your stinking Federal European dream from within.
