I like to travel home via Teruel and Somport and it is frequently very cold.One of the passes is as high as Ben Nevis and the road is marked with red/white poles to help snowplough drivers.At least it is now motorway standard.In the late 70s/early 80s long stretches were packed earth,not even tarmac.Only overtaking lane was between Segorbe and Barracas which had a couple of 24hr.cafes.I’ll be going that way in a few weeks when I can find out what extra documents I need,if anybody knows that is.
I thought Britain was leaving Europe with or without a deal??
Geoffo:
I thought Britain was leaving Europe with or without a deal??
The engine room is stoking the boilers, (indeed some ole boilers are close to exploding under the pressure) but we haven’t actually cast-off yet…
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Did anyone else see the “■■■■■■■■ to Brexit” bus go by College Green yesterday? LOL!
Corbin’s doing himself and his party no good at all by taking this stance, and not helping the leaving process either. If there had been cross-party co-operation from the beginning, things might have been a lot easier. May’s deal bombed massively the other night, the EU leaders have repeatedly stated no more negotiation, revoking Article 50 would be a total betrayal and another referendum would probably make things a whole lot worse, depending on the questions on the ballot paper, so ‘No Deal’ is the only option that would actually get us out of the House of EU, through the gate and off up the road to self-determination. All the others would leave us chained up in the backyard.
Hi all could not agree more fodenway it doe’s not matter what anyone proposes Corbin always has to take the opposite view the man is a total T----r. 
On Sky News this morning it was announced that there’s a shortage of blood pressure tablets because companies have been panic buying from abroad and it has left them short.Wait a minute why are we importing them … because like the place in Leeds our manufacturers were bought out and production moved overseas. There are endless opportunities for this country to bring back UK manufacturing with Brexit but the scaremongering continues
I thought that Fiona Bruce handled last night’s Question Time very well. parphrasing: “I asked you what Red Line you would be prepared to give up; not what ones you wouldn’t”.
ramone:
On Sky News this morning it was announced that there’s a shortage of blood pressure tablets because companies have been panic buying from abroad and it has left them short.Wait a minute why are we importing them … because like the place in Leeds our manufacturers were bought out and production moved overseas. There are endless opportunities for this country to bring back UK manufacturing with Brexit but the scaremongering continues
No surprise there doesn’t seem to be any ‘shortage’ of unnecessary ‘pain relief’ and sedation medication being used by the often forced so called ‘palliative care’ regime ( call it what it really is the often institutionalised euthanasia of difficult expensive to treat illnesses among low priority demographics ) to ‘relieve’ so called ‘pain’ of previously alert and functioning patients,to the point of coma which they eventually will never wake up from.While fooling naive relatives into thinking that such and end is the bs so called natural progression of the respective illness itelf. 
As for UK manufacturing the bankers long since decided to invest cash earned here in our foreign competitors’ industry leaving an obvious conflict of interest in that regard.
ramone:
On Sky News this morning it was announced that there’s a shortage of blood pressure tablets because companies have been panic buying from abroad and it has left them short.Wait a minute why are we importing them … because like the place in Leeds our manufacturers were bought out and production moved overseas. There are endless opportunities for this country to bring back UK manufacturing with Brexit but the scaremongering continues
How will that happen in a Free Market Economy ?
Why would a manufacturer choose to set up in the UK? Why choose a country with no existing trade deals?
The de-regulated Brexit we are heading for, is likely to help the international carpet-bagging financiers, I thought you were opposed to? It wants less regulations, easier, and cheaper imports, it is no friend to long term investment in plant or people. It is not much supported by manufacturers but is liked by who?
Those who want MORE cheap imports, and don’t care about having a wide, stable, home market such as the EU.
Look at deals we, as members of the EU, arein, or are negotiating :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ … agreements
Look at the ones we are close to post Brexit:
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Hhmmmm. So how many companies are likely to set up anew here?
The UK has a population of 66m.
The EU has 512m, post Brexit, 446m.
The whole block can be served by 1 or 2 large widget factories. Will they be built where their products are subject to tax on 66m of sales or on 446m of sales ?
And suggesting a company will simply build a new, small and hence inefficient, plant here is incredible. Free Markets have found it’s often more efficient to have one widget or tablet factory.
New plant will only come with massive Gov input and I really think neither of us expect that, do we?
cav551:
I thought that Fiona Bruce handled last night’s Question Time very well. parphrasing: “I asked you what Red Line you would be prepared to give up; not what ones you wouldn’t”.
Yes I agree, I was pleasantly surprised. Just as an aside, has Corbin got a death wish for the Labour Party ■■ If not, why on earth would you send Abbot in to bat for your team ■■
Regards. John.
Just watched a short clip from that very QT, a state broadcaster failure indeed 
A loud cheer goes up from vast swathes of the audience when Fiona Bruce confirms the meaning of the comment from one of the panelists (the only Brexiteer, usual BBC bias) suggesting we leave with no deal, sour faces along virtually the entire front row of the audience, fancy that 
all those similarly minded people in the front row.
They’ll have to come up with whatever the next wheeze is they have planned sharpish, because we leave in less than 3 months, as demanded by the Leave Vote.
Just what will be the reaction and repercussions should we get betrayed on the vote to leave ( with no strings attached ) as time rumbles on towards the March deadline one wonders what TM and the government come up with next, although she has invited now opinions from all sides albeit under general pressure I don’t think she has any intention what so ever of taking heed of ought any one else has put forward, she looks upon this as her own personal baby and does not want anyone to interfere with her program, sink or swim she will be remembered for all the wrong reasons.
TM has already stated she has no intention of leading the Conservatives in the next election not that she would have any say on that anyway, she is a remainer at heart and still is and she is deluded if she thinks the EU will give anymore to save her neck, its on the block waiting for the axeman.
Should we get what the majority voted for in March on Brexit the Cons may have a chance in the next general election, if we are betrayed they wont have a chance in hell and that is far more worrying than the thought of a Labour government especially with Corbin at the helm, what a gutless self opinionated prick he is, Buzzer.
If Brexit is betrayed, then i agree with you, the fake Conservative party is dead and will never be trusted again.
In some ways it would be poetic justice if we were to elect a Labour govt, but we’d rather not go there again, as we well remember the last lot…not as the fake tories under Cameron the Vanished or the present Android have been any better.
I would hope that the 17.4 million would get behind UKIP in order to pursue the only goal that really matters at the moment, that being to get Britain free from the German dominated EU shambles.
UKIP in turn should be doing all they can to ally themselves with all other patriotic parties under one banner so the patriot vote isn’t split.
Whether one hates or likes Tommy Robinson is neither here nor there, i couldn’t give a monkeys what the BBC or Grauniad apparatchiks think of TR, they think anyone to the right of Corbyn is a raving extremist right winger so their opinion of TR shouldn’t matter a ■■■■.
We will need to bury all of our differences and unite, we arn’t in an armed struggle for our survival, yet, but we might as well be because all the money and all the media (save one or two sanctuaries) is against us and pro the EU and it’s Vichy style caretakers currently inhabiting the houses of parliament, we will need every ally we can muster, my enemy’s enemy being my very good friend, to get what that country needs again, it’s freedom.
The ball is in the fake tory’s court, either Brexit as demanded and promised (by both parties) in the free and fair referendum, or suffer the consequences.
Well Said Juddian & Tommy Robinson supporters: ‘Arbeit macht frei’
Who could argue with that? 
whisperingsmith:
Well Said Juddian & Tommy Robinson supporters: ‘Arbeit macht frei’Who could argue with that?
The only thing wrong with Tommy is his haters ,Most just skim read bs tabloids and conclude with hate …
I would like to hear the views of Tommy Robinson but there is no chance of that on the mainstream media press or TV.Not a word.
Ditto the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan.Do you think someone would prefer that we didn’t know?
whisperingsmith:
‘Arbeit macht frei’Who could argue with that?
Anyone who thinks that stopping the German Federation turning Europe into the larger Federation of the 3rd Reich was the right thing to do.
Gidders:
I would like to hear the views of Tommy Robinson but there is no chance of that on the mainstream media press or TV.Not a word.
Ditto the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan.Do you think someone would prefer that we didn’t know?
Robinson has his own YouTube videos freely available.
They apparently have stopped him from fund raising there, but he hasn`t been taken off air.