It would be nice to form an opinion about Tommy Robinson but the opportunity isn’t available on mainstream TV or the national press.BBC news has just been on,while I was reading a book,and the pro Brexit rally was in a report that must have lasted around 10 seconds.Can’t blame them for bias then!
Gidders:
It would be nice to form an opinion about Tommy Robinson but the opportunity isn’t available on mainstream TV or the national press.BBC news has just been on,while I was reading a book,and the pro Brexit rally was in a report that must have lasted around 10 seconds.Can’t blame them for bias then!
Difficult for the BBC to make a big fuss about the pro Brexit rally when the anti Brexit rally which was taking place simultaneously attracted larger numbers
Well some interesting input on here as well as some crap, this morning I sat down with a nice cuppa and watched the Andrew Marr show, he interviews well in my opinion and does try to be forthright in getting the interviewed to answer the question asked but so many politicians deviate and try and put across there views instead like the labour ■■■■■ with the double barreled name that he had on. After her came Boris with a new haircut and I thought he spoke a lot of sense, there is quite a lot of detail in Mrs May’s proposed deal which is on Brexit lines but the main obstacle for most is this backstop, now what Bo Jo said was in the event of Mrs May being defeated in the vote which they say is going to happen for certain on Tuesday then she should go back to Brussels and tell those J.Arthurs look my country wont accept a deal with a backstop in it so remove that and we may be able to talk turkey, they for there part have stated there is no negotiating further but confronted with us leaving without agreement they may very well change there minds as they certainly don’t want us just walking away as they have a great deal to lose if we do just that.
We have not long to wait for the outcome of that vote on Tuesday and the blood letting has started already with Ester McVey stating she would stand for the PM’s post if asked, even though I am discontent with the way our present government under the conservatives has handled this process I certainly would not want Corbin and his labour cronies to gain power as we are in enough mess now and if he gets involved it will be a whole lot worse, Buzzer.
Churchill said a lot of things, not always consistant. For instance, his proposal that Britain and France should merge as one country. The French declined. 
malmic:
Gidders:
It would be nice to form an opinion about Tommy Robinson but the opportunity isn’t available on mainstream TV or the national press.BBC news has just been on,while I was reading a book,and the pro Brexit rally was in a report that must have lasted around 10 seconds.Can’t blame them for bias then!Difficult for the BBC to make a big fuss about the pro Brexit rally when the anti Brexit rally which was taking place simultaneously attracted larger numbers
Based on which figures ?.I’d guess there were far more leave voters like myself with other far more important commitments than arguing with a bunch of deluded fanatical EU Federalists on the streets of London.Let alone trusting the Remain agenda not to kick off EU backed false flag violence which would then be blamed on Leave supporters.
While who cares when the Remain anti nation state rabble were beaten fair and square in a referendum which they would have expected the Leave vote to take as gospel if they’d have won it.Or for that matter why should we even accept any process which says that it’s ok to vote the country out of existence and into the EU 4th Reich Federal dictatorship anyway.As for the BBC no one is under any illusions that we’re not now in a proper entrenched Nationalist v Federalist ideological division and the BBC is obviously nothing but a laughably biased propaganda service for the latter worse than even the old PRAVDA.
Spardo:
Churchill said a lot of things, not always consistant. For instance, his proposal that Britain and France should merge as one country. The French declined.
Churchill was an over rated drunken warmonger who didn’t know what he was saying most of the time.While according to the EU’s own information it was Monnet who wanted to merge the governments of France and UK.As for Churchill he was just another lying Conservative European Federalist like all the others in that regard.Are we really supposed to believe that he intended the UK to be exempt from his Federal European project.Which would be no different to the lie foisted on the country by Heath that we were only joining a ‘Common Market’.
churchill-society-london.org … onish.html
Who ironically,in typical Conservative Politician style,just took advantage of the time which so called ‘appeaser’ Chamberlain created for us to re arm after Churchills 1930’s defence budget cuts,which had crippled our armed forces,when it became clear that we were inevitably going to war with the 3rd Reich.Hence Chamberlain’s brilliant subterfuge in Munich.
Until the WW2 generation finally saw through his lies in 1945 and threw him out accordingly.The point being we can’t do that in the case of unelected tinpot foreign European dictators like Juncker and the corrupt EU 4th Reich dictatorship he represents and people like Churchill and Heath and Thatcher and May knew/know it.
I’ve just watched Enoch Powell’s speech, posted by Carryfast. The man’s foresight was chillingly accurate in so many ways, and not just regarding what came to be the EU of today. As many have said, he should have been PM instead of being virtually erased from political history for speaking the uncomfortable truth. A leader of his intellect, eloquence and unshakeable belief in his country’s capabilities is sorely needed now and in the coming months.
Another different speech from Enoch Powell at the time of the proposal for there to be a european Parliament. He revealsthe LIES which were told and the deliberate misleading of the British electorate by HMG at the time of the previous referendum. Nothing changes.
Surprise, surprise, TM the PM has bottled it on tomorrow’s vote and called for a delay. Face it love, if you can’t come up with a plan in two and a half years, you aren’t going to come up with one at all, so clear your desk and leave it to someone who actually WANTS us out of the EU.
Well what a surprise the vote TM promised multiple times over the last week due to take place tomorrow is now cancelled as she now realises it had not a cat in hells chance of going in her favour, she should have her tongue cut out for her lies, fodenway is right she should clear her desk and disappear and let a real Brexiteer take over. People around the world must think what a fricking shambles this country finds itself in not able to move forward, you don’t need to be a brain surgeon to work it out it was remain in as we were or get out how simple is that, 17.4 million voted out just honour that.
Wondering now if we have a general election that " The Monster Raving Looney Party " may just get in as it would be no worse than what we have at the moment, TM has lost confidence in many of her fellow MP’s and me who voted Conservative. Its a bloody good job they are not in business as they would be broke by now and down the road done and dusted
Cant wait for Dennis to comment on today in parliament, should make riveting reading, but it will all change again in the next hour for sure Buzzer.
Footnote… No mention of just leaving with no deal from either side of the house, my question is why not ?
Buzzer:
Footnote… No mention of just leaving with no deal from either side of the house, my question is why not ?
Perhaps because they think it is a really stupid thing to do? Hmm.
Spardo:
Buzzer:
Footnote… No mention of just leaving with no deal from either side of the house, my question is why not ?Perhaps because they think it is a really stupid thing to do? Hmm.
spardo don’t think we will ever find out as this lot in power are so corrupt but would be good to see how we went if we did come out with no deal, Buzzer
PS …did you find your tin hat.
Buzzer my old Mate you do flatter me Ooo Arr ! I’ve been watching the ■■■■■■■ shambles unfold in “Halitosis Hall” this afternoon and what a truly ■■■■■■■ shambles it is proving to be !
It’s patently obvious that TM and her Remainer Civil Servants had never intended from the outset to enter into meaningful and robust negotiations with the EU and what is now transpiring only underlines the fact. The UK is now in a right bind as the negotiations have been deliberately confused resulting in the situation that now exists. I reckon we should leave on 29th March with no deal, Period ! and the EU can get stuffed ! but I fear that may not be the outcome we may achieve by what is currently going on in the “Bear Pit”. If we could just walk away with no deal and finally get clear maybe there will be a case for a General Election as the decks would then be clear and we would once more be a fully independent Nation and able to ! Maybe a number of other European Countries would then go down the same route as the UK. But as you say Buzzer things are changing by the hour so who knows where it will all end ! So keep watching, further bulletins to follow 
Dennis.
Buzzer:
PS …did you find your tin hat.
Never even bothered searching for it mate, absolutely no need in our Dordognais haven of peace and tranquillity.
I was down south Friday/Saturday around Nimes, and enmeshed in enough blockade running, including a midnight dash from the routier to race through one before they could get up from warming their bums in front of the bonfire.
But once I crossed the border…nothing, the nearest thing I saw to a demo was yellow wrapping paper around the 4 signposts at one roundabout, no tyres, no pallets, no fires, no people. We are a very civilised bunch round here. 
fodenway:
Surprise, surprise, TM the PM has bottled it on tomorrow’s vote and called for a delay.
All part of the Remain charade which was put into place after the Leave vote in 2016.
It’s a good bet that she’ll now run back to her EU handlers to extend the article 50 deadline.Followed by more collusion with her cross party Remain allies in parliament and the EU which will make a pre arranged token ‘concession’.The option of BRINO or Remain will then be sealed either with a second ‘referendum’.Or a General Election which will effectively be a second referendum based on the above ‘deal’ written into the manifesto of all the usual suspects from Labour to SNP and their Conservative European Federalist Party allies.
Spardo:
Buzzer:
Footnote… No mention of just leaving with no deal from either side of the house, my question is why not ?Perhaps because they think it is a really stupid thing to do? Hmm.
No it’s what we voted for Leave means Leave.Leave doesn’t mean a ‘deal’ which effectively means the EU still controls the country as expected of a ‘deal’ which has been arranged by remainers in the form of May and Hammond for remainers.
Spardo:
Buzzer:
PS …did you find your tin hat.Never even bothered searching for it mate, absolutely no need in our Dordognais haven of peace and tranquillity.
I was down south Friday/Saturday around Nimes, and enmeshed in enough blockade running, including a midnight dash from the routier to race through one before they could get up from warming their bums in front of the bonfire.
But once I crossed the border…nothing, the nearest thing I saw to a demo was yellow wrapping paper around the 4 signposts at one roundabout, no tyres, no pallets, no fires, no people. We are a very civilised bunch round here.
The definition of ‘civilised’ obviously means selling out the country to Megalomaniacs like Macron.
God 'elp us in an election. If the Monster Raving Red Looney Party get in (no mention of a “Peoples Vote”) that’s exactly the FIRST thing they would do IF they got in. They’ve been careful not to ask for another Referendum.
On the TV this morning: 44% of our trade is with the EU. 44%, a minority. They need us for trade and our contribution to THEIR budget more than we need them. Deal or No Deal Noel? NO DEAL!
gazzer:
God 'elp us in an election. If the Monster Raving Red Looney Party get in (no mention of a “Peoples Vote”) that’s exactly the FIRST thing they would do IF they got in. They’ve been careful not to ask for another Referendum.On the TV this morning: 44% of our trade is with the EU. 44%, a minority. They need us for trade and our contribution to THEIR budget more than we need them. Deal or No Deal Noel? NO DEAL!
Personally now Gazzer I don’t think this is going any where but one never knows, things have happened so unexpectedly that you can never imagine whats coming next, TM stated all week many times the vote would take place on Tuesday and now she has reneged so how can we believe her when she stated the UK will leave the EU on March 31st, better check the calendar to make sure that day exists in 2019, Boris was quiet today never uttered a word from what I saw maybe he is in waiting. My feelings that the only thing that may bring this debacle to a head is if another member state falls and my god if one is about to capitulate do it now FFS save us all a load of grief and we can watch the whole thing crumble, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
My feelings that the only thing that may bring this debacle to a head is if another member state falls and my god if one is about to capitulate do it now FFS save us all a load of grief and we can watch the whole thing crumble, Buzzer.
Quite the opposite, the spectre of Britain tearing itself apart has more and more convinced other Europeans that they really don’t want to go down the same route. Even Italian politicians are no longer shouting very much about leaving the Union.