The only reason the Frogs and the Jerries want us to stay is the £350,000,000 we contribute every week of the Year ! Other than that they don’t want to know us ! and the quicker they can turn us into an offshore banana republic the better they will like it ! So Bollox I say we are far better out of it even if we struggle in the short term, and who knows it might even dissuade all and sundry from Africa and elsewhere making a bee line to our shores and OH! We should pull out of the ECJ and sling the Yuman Rights rubbish out then start getting rid of all the illegals by the ■■■■■■■ plane load ! I’m for OUT,I didn’t want in in 1975 and I haven’t changed my tune ! Cheers Bewick.
Bewick has it right get rid of these illegals by the plane load, don’t land low level flying no parachutes just open the door and push them out and the sooner the better.
One of the biggest problems seems to be that instead of being able to influence and negotiate any changes in the EU, our position has been gradually weakened over the last few decades through successive governments to the point that by staying in we are not going to be able to have any say in the way we run our own affairs in another few years. How long before the heads of the EU veto any proposals that our government, whoever is in power, makes and they will rollover and go along with it.
Really do think this referendum is another fore gone conclusion. There’s no way any country will be exiting the EU and I really do think the UK will remain in.
chazzer:
One of the biggest problems seems to be that instead of being able to influence and negotiate any changes in the EU, our position has been gradually weakened over the last few decades through successive governments to the point that by staying in we are not going to be able to have any say in the way we run our own affairs in another few years. How long before the heads of the EU veto any proposals that our government, whoever is in power, makes and they will rollover and go along with it.
In the Federal governmental system no single state can do anything regards negotiating or influencing any changes.It’s simply a case of the decisions for all are made by majority vote among all the different states and if the interests of the majority aren’t the same as the interests of any one or even a minority tough and it’s then just a case of whatever the majority of the states decide which rules all.IE rule without local electoral accountability or democratic control.The usual result eventually and inevitably ending up in what happened in the USA in 1861 and in Yugoslavia in 1991 and even here between the Scottish and French Plantagenet rule in 1297 and onward and Ireland in Easter 1916,all based on the legitimate right of self determination.
The choice is do we get out peacefully now or leave the potential of a war of secession to future generations. 
MOSSSIDEDEEP:
There’s no way any country will be exiting the EU and I really do think the UK will remain in.
As I said get out peacefully while we can now or a war of secession maybe for generations of Brits in the future who aren’t even born yet.
Gave all my animals breakfast then came back in doors for my daily bowl of porridge just as Boris Johnson was being interviewed by Andrew Marr, well I think he would be a better prime minister than Tony Blair oops sorry I meant David Cameron different political agenda’s but both as much use as a chocolate fire guard. Any way he has obviously got his eye’s open a lot wider than the afore mentioned PM’s. one past one present, it never ceases to amaze me the facts that pop out in these discussions like we here in Britain have only 3.6% of voting power when it comes to deciding what happens to us or anyone within the EU. Then there is the scare mongering going on that if we vote OUT we will fail and major institutions will pull out and base themselves in Europe, also interviewed was the ex main man at the Bank of England Mervin King who also stated that the Euro is very fragile and we are not taking notice of the signs in world economy that we should be doing as we omitted to do this the last time the Banks crashed and the whole thing went ■■■■ up and I don’t think we need any more of that depression put upon our already ■■■■■■ of British citizens and that’s not including imports of the last 50 years in my eyes they don’t count. We need to take notice of what is going on around us in the whole world as we only seem to be concentrating on the EU at the moment and they are not the only trading grounds Great Britain has, we used to trade the world in the past so why not lets do it again.
My only other annoyance is with television interviewers, they constantly ■■■■ in and don’t actually let the person who has been asked the questions to answer in a full and proper manner most annoying, if they need more time give it to them and let us here what they really want to get across, sometimes it is quite refreshing to here someone on the same wave length as myself, over to you lot now on this sunny Mothering Sunday, Buzzer.
I don’t think Boris finished a single sentence! It was such crap telly I turned it off before the end. Love the Carlsberg version! Robert 
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Have a look at this on TruckblogUK today. Why isn’t this national news?
I was running the gauntlet in Calais well over 15 years ago and bugger all was done about it then, so it makes my ■■■■ fizz to read accounts like this in 2016! Robert
Grrr.
As I reply well not reply as I have no wish at all to converse with that man from Leatherhead just an observation. It strikes me as I feel it does with countless observers reading this thread and others on THUK most of us who have light hearted input but get our views and points across amicably.
That man however puts down any one who dares to have different opinions than himself, he thinks he is the wisest in this country of ours and has tried to show this with his mammoth input on here.
What I am dying to know is that if he is so worldly wise how come he has not ascended to a high flying job in Whitehall where he would be paid copious amounts of money to put his views across, this would suit him as most of them only talk bull ■■■■ and don’t get any thing constructive done to benefit anyone of us.
No matter what subject arises on here he always has a controversial input probably to wind us all up with his incessant trivial facts that not many of us are interested in, he obviously has plenty of spare time on his hands which would be put to better use litter picking in Leatherhead and in that way he may get appreciated which is more than he is on TNUK.
Finally if North Korea are thinking of dropping any sort of weapon of mass destruction then drop it on Leatherhead and let us be rid of that man for good.
PS. Robert you are right to highlight the problems in Calais as no one in real time Britain has any idea what every day occurs to our international drivers passing through Calais,
our company still running trucks to Europe but it is becoming increasingly unpleasant and I feel sorry for the people of Calais who have to live with this immigrant problem day in day out, it cannot be easy for them. Buzzer.
Buzzer:
As I reply well not reply as I have no wish at all to converse with that man from Leatherhead just an observation. It strikes me as I feel it does with countless observers reading this thread and others on THUK most of us who have light hearted input but get our views and points across amicably.
That man however puts down any one who dares to have different opinions than himself, he thinks he is the wisest in this country of ours and has tried to show this with his mammoth input on here.
What I am dying to know is that if he is so worldly wise how come he has not ascended to a high flying job in Whitehall where he would be paid copious amounts of money to put his views across, this would suit him as most of them only talk bull [zb] and don’t get any thing constructive done to benefit anyone of us.
No matter what subject arises on here he always has a controversial input probably to wind us all up with his incessant trivial facts that not many of us are interested in, he obviously has plenty of spare time on his hands which would be put to better use litter picking in Leatherhead and in that way he may get appreciated which is more than he is on TNUK.
Finally if North Korea are thinking of dropping any sort of weapon of mass destruction then drop it on Leatherhead and let us be rid of that man for good.
Sounds like you got a bit upset about me calling Boris a ■■■■■■.Which to be fair was actually an understated view of the lying Europhile London loving and expansionist zb.Sorry if it didn’t fit your script but don’t shoot the messenger. 
THINK YOU MISUNDERSTAND EVERY ONE ON HERE AS ITS NOT BORIS WHO IS THE ■■■■■■ THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
This thread would make happy reading for the IN side.
Gentlemen, may i humbly suggest taking a leaf from the Grassroots Out campaign (who should get the OUT designation from the electoral commission, but won’t now Boris and his mates are there for the Tory-we-don’t-really-want-to-leave-group to do their best to keep us in and get Him into number 10 as a nice little bonus).
Grassroots Out has cross party support, with founders of the Campaign genuine rare as hens teeth Conservatives plus real Labour plus UKIP, (do the Libs still exist?) and now with George Galloway too who, like him or loath him, is a devastating orator and has a way of putting a message across and far better on your side than against you…for a chuckle watch the full version on Youtube of Galloway ripping the US Senate Committee a new arse hole.
Galloway and Farage couldn’t agree on the time of day, but they and others have put their differences aside because this subject is far more important for all of us and our descendants than any or all of them combined, if those walking ego’s can agree that mine enemy’s enemy is my friend, then the least we can do is to try our best to do the same till whats left of our country is saved.
Once our country is saved from complete surrender to the Jerries, who are the EU, without a shot being fired in defence (can you hear the previous generations of genuine defenders of Britain turning in their graves, i can), we can argue like cat and dog till the cows come home…
Juddian:
This thread would make happy reading for the IN side.Gentlemen, may i humbly suggest taking a leaf from the Grassroots Out campaign (who should get the OUT designation from the electoral commission, but won’t now Boris and his mates are there for the Tory-we-don’t-really-want-to-leave-group to do their best to keep us in and get Him into number 10 as a nice little bonus).
Grassroots Out has cross party support, with founders of the Campaign genuine rare as hens teeth Conservatives plus real Labour plus UKIP, (do the Libs still exist?) and now with George Galloway too who, like him or loath him, is a devastating orator and has a way of putting a message across and far better on your side than against you…for a chuckle watch the full version on Youtube of Galloway ripping the US Senate Committee a new arse hole.
Galloway and Farage couldn’t agree on the time of day, but they and others have put their differences aside because this subject is far more important for all of us and our descendants than any or all of them combined, if those walking ego’s can agree that mine enemy’s enemy is my friend, then the least we can do is to try our best to do the same till whats left of our country is saved.
Once our country is saved from complete surrender to the Jerries, who are the EU, without a shot being fired in defence (can you hear the previous generations of genuine defenders of Britain turning in their graves, i can), we can argue like cat and dog till the cows come home…
Well said Juddian I’ve been a labour voter all my life and a trade union member for well over 30 years
Many of those years as a shop steward including being a senior shop steward and I have always been against the EU
As you’ve quoted the grass roots side is a wide spectrum of people with far ranging views
But with one thing in common they all want out
gazsa401:
Juddian:
This thread would make happy reading for the IN side.Gentlemen, may i humbly suggest taking a leaf from the Grassroots Out campaign (who should get the OUT designation from the electoral commission, but won’t now Boris and his mates are there for the Tory-we-don’t-really-want-to-leave-group to do their best to keep us in and get Him into number 10 as a nice little bonus).
Grassroots Out has cross party support, with founders of the Campaign genuine rare as hens teeth Conservatives plus real Labour plus UKIP, (do the Libs still exist?) and now with George Galloway too who, like him or loath him, is a devastating orator and has a way of putting a message across and far better on your side than against you…for a chuckle watch the full version on Youtube of Galloway ripping the US Senate Committee a new arse hole.
Galloway and Farage couldn’t agree on the time of day, but they and others have put their differences aside because this subject is far more important for all of us and our descendants than any or all of them combined, if those walking ego’s can agree that mine enemy’s enemy is my friend, then the least we can do is to try our best to do the same till whats left of our country is saved.
Once our country is saved from complete surrender to the Jerries, who are the EU, without a shot being fired in defence (can you hear the previous generations of genuine defenders of Britain turning in their graves, i can), we can argue like cat and dog till the cows come home…
Well said Juddian I’ve been a labour voter all my life and a trade union member for well over 30 years
Many of those years as a shop steward including being a senior shop steward and I have always been against the EU
As you’ve quoted the grass roots side is a wide spectrum of people with far ranging views
But with one thing in common they all want out
There’s a difference between cross Party support v lying impossible contradiction which means if it looks like an impossible infiltrating duck intent on sabotaging the out campaign then it’s a duck.Boris and Galloway both fitting that description and if anything questions Farage’s judgement that does.
The absurdity of the Pope-mobile leads one to wonder about the speculative absurdity of the khalif-mobile… R
robert1952:
The absurdity of the Pope-mobile leads one to wonder about the speculative absurdity of the khalif-mobile… R0
We’re going to need a photo of the Khalif mobile to make a comparison.While has the Khalif applied for EU membership 
Although it seems a bit hypocritical that the Pope is supporting the in campaign while the Vatican isn’t a member state. 
Carryfast:
robert1952:
The absurdity of the Pope-mobile leads one to wonder about the speculative absurdity of the khalif-mobile… R0
We’re going to need a photo of the Khalif mobile to make a comparison.While has the Khalif applied for EU membership
Although it seems a bit hypocritical that the Pope is supporting the in campaign while the Vatican isn’t a member state.
Precisely, which puts it on the same theocratic hegemonic footing as ISIS. I thought perhaps we could let the Khalif have one of those Libya-trucks licenced-built Iveco EuroTrakkers with the Chinese 9-speed Fuller look-a-like gearbox. He could open Wimbledon in summer and perhaps we could invite Mugabe as it’s his 92nd birthday while we’re being so chummy with everyone. Robert (wan grin)