Can’t remember if this has been on before. Put on facebook by John’s lad.
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Colin.
colinwallace1:
Can’t remember if this has been on before. Put on facebook by John’s lad.Colin.
Many thanks for posting that here Colin! I haven’t seen it before 
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I see it’s a picture of GEH 513N with a shunter on the trailer. Here’s another picture of it, provided by your old man!
colinwallace1:
Can’t remember if this has been on before. Put on facebook by John’s lad.Colin.
Nice to see a new pic Colin,intresting set up with the dolly between the tractor and trailer. 
ERF-NGC-European:
colinwallace1:
Can’t remember if this has been on before. Put on facebook by John’s lad.
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Colin.Many thanks for posting that here Colin! I haven’t seen it before
I see it’s a picture of GEH 513N with a shunter on the trailer. Here’s another picture of it, provided by your old man!
interesting twin steer bedford with a rear mount crane stuck in behind it , looks like an ex brewery job
tony
tonyj105:
ERF-NGC-European:
colinwallace1:
Can’t remember if this has been on before. Put on facebook by John’s lad.Colin.
Many thanks for posting that here Colin! I haven’t seen it before
I see it’s a picture of GEH 513N with a shunter on the trailer. Here’s another picture of it, provided by your old man!
interesting twin steer bedford with a rear mount crane stuck in behind it , looks like an ex brewery job
tony
tonyj105:
ERF-NGC-European:
colinwallace1:
Can’t remember if this has been on before. Put on facebook by John’s lad.Colin.
Many thanks for posting that here Colin! I haven’t seen it before
I see it’s a picture of GEH 513N with a shunter on the trailer. Here’s another picture of it, provided by your old man!
interesting twin steer bedford with a rear mount crane stuck in behind it , looks like an ex brewery job
tony
It appears they had ancillary Bedfords:
Last month a bloke from the Falkland Islands put this picture of John’s Foden on facebook. The Foden went out there mid to late 90’s. He said “The last run for this old girl, be buried next week.”
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When John owned it.
Colin.
colinwallace1:
A few Bedfords over the years, including a couple of Tl’s.
Colin.
Great pics Colin.
ERF NGC in context:
An interesting set of Eric Vick ‘stills’ on this youtube clip.
I hadn’t realised that they’d painted the Mercedes LPS unit in their own livery. It also shows an Atki Borderer and an Ergo cab Leyland (poss AEC) in their colours too. Close ups of their Transcon show they simply wrote their name on the cab doors but didn’t bother with the paint job!
A useful reference. Here’s the link:
The passenger in the oncoming vehicle has marginally more chance of spilling his G and T than the passenger in the vehicle from which this picture was taken, I imagine.
Yet another of these 1:50 scale NGCs has appeared on ebay this week. I’ve seen them in Ryder rental, Eric Vick, Beresford and other liveries on ebay. One appears about every ten months or so. I’ve obtained a couple myself over recent years. I don’t know who manufactures these resin models, but I imagine they are kits because the quality seems to vary somewhat. Anyway, at first glance they look quite convincing but don’t ever place them next to your Dutch PKC kit models of an ERF NGC because they will suddenly look most unconvincing!
For a start the cab stands much too high on the chassis. The radiator grille is too wide because the sides of the ‘snout’ haven’t been sufficiently beveled inwards towards the front. The doors, which should be truncated ‘A’-shaped have vertical edges and the rear of the cab lacks accuracy. There are no windscreen dust deflectors and the sun visor is the wrong shape (though to be fair, the visor on this particular model is pretty close). It seems strange to me to get so much of the complex Motor Panels cab correct and then to miss so many important details. The ones I had were finished, liveried and signwritten to a high standard but the whole vehicles didn’t look good on my dioramas!
I only wish it was as easy to get hold of finished PKC kits!
Think the resin cab is a littlebigtrux cab ,they do all sorts of cabs, littlebigtrux on Facebook.
ERF-NGC-European:
Yet another of these 1:50 scale NGCs has appeared on ebay this week. I’ve seen them in Ryder rental, Eric Vick, Beresford and other liveries on ebay. One appears about every ten months or so. I’ve obtained a couple myself over recent years. I don’t know who manufactures these resin models, but I imagine they are kits because the quality seems to vary somewhat. Anyway, at first glance they look quite convincing but don’t ever place them next to your Dutch PKC kit models of an ERF NGC because they will suddenly look most unconvincing!For a start the cab stands much too high on the chassis. The radiator grille is too wide because the sides of the ‘snout’ haven’t been sufficiently beveled inwards towards the front. The doors, which should be truncated ‘A’-shaped have vertical edges and the rear of the cab lacks accuracy. There are no windscreen dust deflectors and the sun visor is the wrong shape (though to be fair, the visor on this particular model is pretty close). It seems strange to me to get so much of the complex Motor Panels cab correct and then to miss so many important details. The ones I had were finished, liveried and signwritten to a high standard but the whole vehicles didn’t look good on my dioramas!
I only wish it was as easy to get hold of finished PKC kits!
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You’re right Rowena and despite the fact 80% is right…indeed 20% is not good…but to be more precise…I don’t remember 6x4 was ever introduced.
Keep sound, statisfied and active!
vwvanman0:
Think the resin cab is a littlebigtrux cab ,they do all sorts of cabs, littlebigtrux on Facebook.
Thanks vanman!
ERF-Continental:
ERF-NGC-European:
Yet another of these 1:50 scale NGCs has appeared on ebay this week. I’ve seen them in Ryder rental, Eric Vick, Beresford and other liveries on ebay. One appears about every ten months or so. I’ve obtained a couple myself over recent years. I don’t know who manufactures these resin models, but I imagine they are kits because the quality seems to vary somewhat. Anyway, at first glance they look quite convincing but don’t ever place them next to your Dutch PKC kit models of an ERF NGC because they will suddenly look most unconvincing!For a start the cab stands much too high on the chassis. The radiator grille is too wide because the sides of the ‘snout’ haven’t been sufficiently beveled inwards towards the front. The doors, which should be truncated ‘A’-shaped have vertical edges and the rear of the cab lacks accuracy. There are no windscreen dust deflectors and the sun visor is the wrong shape (though to be fair, the visor on this particular model is pretty close). It seems strange to me to get so much of the complex Motor Panels cab correct and then to miss so many important details. The ones I had were finished, liveried and signwritten to a high standard but the whole vehicles didn’t look good on my dioramas!
I only wish it was as easy to get hold of finished PKC kits!
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You’re right Rowena and despite the fact 80% is right…indeed 20% is not good…but to be more precise…I don’t remember 6x4 was ever introduced.
Keep sound, statisfied and active!
Thanks A-J! And you’re right: all the 6x4s were conversions; though perhaps the model is a conversion too! I expect it’ll be a long time before we ever see PKC builds on ebay.
I’m certainly keeping sound in body & mind, content and actively busy. Just got over Covid.
Do-it-yourself Easter card: just cross out Christmas !
I took ‘vanman’s’ advice and looked up Littlebigtrux who make 1:50 cab kits (see comments about the NGC further up the page ^^); and found this website:
Some of them are good. The Marathon looks promising. I also noticed an NGC cab I hadn’t seen a picture of before but the TN system won’t let me upload it. You can find it in the above link though.
Loste’s two ERF NGCs are visible behind the White in this picture. They also had a Pacific with andERF 7MW (or 8MW) cab.
I found this observation by John ‘Saviem’ on an early page of this thread, which I completely overlooked when writing the books. It’s an interesting take on the relationship twixt dealerships and operators with regard to ERF at the time the NGC was produced:
The point about attaching dealerships to operators was one of the fundamental reasons for ERFs demise in the UK. You have your new ERF, and you take it into the local dealer…but the workshop is full of “his” vehicles…next thing he is after “your” traffic! The “big” UK dealers, Richard Read, S Jones, Beeches, haulage based companies, did as much to loose custom as create it! At first it is an attractive option they will buy your product, parts, vehicles for sub contractors etc, but later it turns sour, as they are limited in attracting customers to their premises and business. A pattern clearly shown across many marques of vehicle across all of Europe.
Quite thought-provoking!