jessicas dad:
aranger:
I dont even notice all these foreigners tbh.Well you must go around with your eyes shut, they are like rats … You never more than 6ft from one.
Maybe more down there but again when I am in ingerland all I notice is ■■■■■■ English people. lol
How about for every benefit scrounging lazy arsed brit/european/non european/ we have in this country, we swap for a hard working family orientated foreigner that is willing to play by the same rules as me and mine and will be happy to play his or her part in making a contribution to this Country…
Its not as easy as just saying “its the fault of the foreigners” etc etc, It is no secret that if all foreign labour clocked off tonight at 5 oclock that the national health service would collapse.
toby1234abc:
This does not apply to Orys,you are most welcome,but for the rest of the foreign devils,go home,get a job there,and many thanks for ruining oor transport industry,i blame the bosses for hiring the cheap labour,i know it is a free market place for competion,but can you see millions of Brit drivers going abroad and cut the job up.
If the whole of europe is here in the uk,who is driving the trucks where they come from?Dont get me started on Somalians complaining that their 5 bed house in a posh suberb in London was not good enough,while the wife pops out the 7 th child.Can i illegally arrive in Australia,and get a house,free money and surf on Bondi beach while signing on to their free money for doing nothing.
Sorry, I worked with a few polish people in the past and i must say, what hard working honest people they were. What made me laugh was that an Englishmen was asked if he could stay on to help, well all i can say is that the Englishman was kicking off slightly and was asked to leave site and the polish gent was happy to help, along with myself.
Good company who treated you right, untill you have a fight
MysonVinnie:
‘…Didn’t we have this argument in the 70’s about the Pakistani’s…?’
Perhaps such an argument was had - but the response then was that the UK was honouring an old empire obligation.
Today’s ‘obligation’ is to do what the EU tells us.
toby1234abc:
**This does not apply to Orys,you are most welcome,**but for the rest of the foreign devils,go home,get a job there,and many thanks for ruining oor transport industry
Anyway, what gives YOU the right to choose? One out, all out. Don’t go picking favourites, it’s not nice. There’s loads of fit 'Ski Babes that could stay, but it wouldn’t be fair on the vfugly ones, so they can all naff off.
dinosteveus1:
toby1234abc:
**This does not apply to Orys,you are most welcome,**but for the rest of the foreign devils,go home,get a job there,and many thanks for ruining oor transport industryAnyway, what gives YOU the right to choose? One out, all out. Don’t go picking favourites, it’s not nice. There’s loads of fit 'Ski Babes that could stay, but it wouldn’t be fair on the vfugly ones, so they can all naff off.
Pmsl
+1
While i don’t in anyway advocate any benefit in the open European market i do feel very uncomfortable on the approach some people have regarding the subject.
Some people are rightly scared about the influx of foreign people into their country, they are mostly scared because they do not understand it. They see people coming to their shores and taking un wanted work, cleaning toilets and alike. Then when they progress through the society chain they feel threatened, they remove a brush and dip it into some tar and hey presto you have the attitude some of you are openly expressing in this forum.
I was born in England and have lived in England all my life. My Grandmother was born in Germany and my grandfather in England. My Grandparents met during the war, and faced the most horrendous treatment because she was German. Why? Because people could not understand basic human nature and assumed that because of her nationality she was automatically a ■■■■, without right justification. In short what a ■■■■ was in the first place rubber stamping people because of their heritage and want to a peaceful life.
It’s shameful that people believe they have a right to something over another human beings over the fact of where they where born. If our country advertises itself in such a way to encourage an economic movement then that is not the fault of those who wish to take advantage of it. If they then decide to stay where they move, on the basis they are entitled to do so then all the better for them.
Ask yourself a question if you where offered a job in a country of better conditions to what you currently have would you take it? You would be foolish not to! I don’t agree with those who pass through Europe in search of asylum to reach our country as they should seek such in the first country they arrive in.
But in short the comments on hear are those similar with the EDL an alike and its worrying
i`m not worried about the edl.they have as much right to voice thier opinions as everybody else.if we live in an era of free speech,then it must be free speech for one and all.
there are plenty of other minority groups making their feelings felt,so why pick on edl 
I’m not getting into the in’s and out’s of this debate as I’ve heard it so many times I just can’t be bothered any more but all I do want to say is that the way some of you talk about what basically are our fellow human beings is sometimes disgraceful.
As you were.
switchlogic:
I’m not getting into the in’s and out’s of this debate as I’ve heard it so many times I just can’t be bothered any more but all I do want to say is that the way some of you talk about what basically are our fellow human beings is sometimes disgraceful.As you were.
Exactly, no-one had a choice where they were born and every single one of us will try to better ourselves.
Wow! I was away for some time and there is whole funny thread abouti-ish me
And I can do multiquote now
toby1234abc:
This does not apply to Orys,you are most welcome,but for the rest of the foreign devils,go home,get a job there,and many thanks for ruining oor transport industry,i blame the bosses for hiring the cheap labour,i know it is a free market place for competion,but can you see millions of Brit drivers going abroad and cut the job up.
Well, I can. On this forum you will find a fair amount of guys working in Canada, USA, New Zeland, Holland, Spain etc etc…
If the whole of europe is here in the uk,who is driving the trucks where they come from?
As usual, you seem to exagerate your meaning in the world 
Can i illegally arrive in Australia,and get a house,free money and surf on Bondi beach while signing on to their free money for doing nothing.
No, I don’t think you can. But why you ask?
Well. wait! You say I can do it with UK? ■■■■! Why noone told me? Maybe is not too late yet! Will they treat me with all that free stuff if I just go to Calais and back? 
Saaamon:
You say no offence to orys but is that because you know him and realise he’s a decent person, despite where he comes from? Perharps if you got to know some more easten europeans you mite like them too, just a thought.
Oh, he just can’t tell me in my face all that after all the help and advice I gave him when he was going to Poland to rip British dentists off their jobs (I think I can say that, since he thanked me publicly for the advice I gave him on PM).
MysonVinnie:
After all if it wasn’t for the Brits moaning and groaning, working to rule, taking 3 years off for having a stubbed toe, then suing the company we wouldn’t be in this position. Brits don’t go to Poland to do driving jobs because we wouldn’t hack it!
Some do. I already met two when I approached Polish trucks in Europe for the chat. None of them moved for personal reasons - they just said that they can have better money there and that Europ job is virtually unavailable in UK.
jessicas dad:
im sick of the eastern europeans working here, they are alright cleaning bogs or picking veg in fields, but driving lorries they can ■■■■ off. it wouldnt be so bad if every other lorry on the road wasnt a eastern european but they are bloody everywhere.
Well, you would be saying something else if you were British bog cleaner or veg picker
rambo19:
Its not always like that though is it. I worked with a czech guy who wouldn’t spend his night out money, he just lived on sandwiches, everything was as cheap as possible so he could live well when he moved back to czech. I happen to think he was a really nice bloke, but he was milking the system for everything he could get. He did work hard, but no harder than the English guys. Thats the difference with Brits, we don’t have anywhere else to go. I know plenty of hard working brit people who struggle to get work because they want a real living wage, and some kind of a life - not that much to ask is it?
Well, people have different priorities. After our evening class in Friday we usually all go to the pub. Believe or not, but British students stop by in the off license shop, buy beer there and then refill their glasses under the tables… I never did something like that in my life (except from some high school ball, where no alcohol was allowed and we were refilling pepsi bottles with vodka 
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Recently I gave my old gas heater (which I used last winter when I was temporarly living in a flat I wasn’t too happy with) to my British collegues, as they have no working heating in their flat. When I delivered it and I entered the staircase, it was a complete dump. In the flat the same - mould everywhere… I would never agree to live in such conditions… But they said they need it cheap.
Same thing in the mini cab world.
Turkish drivers work 7x12hr shifts and live of a bag of rice a week, just so they can send money home, a pound over here is worth a fiver over there.
The turkish drivers used to show me pictures of there houses in turkey and they were mansions!!.
They were here to make as much as possible and the return to turkey.
I don’t blame them, I blame the system.
You know, compared to British houses all houses seems to be big. My family lives in a house as big that in Britian there would be 6 or 8 flats in it. And it’s only two flats - my parents and my cousins. And then we have a garden - only front garden would be enough to put typical British 3 bed house and garden in it. And it’s the small one - back garden is big enough to put another house like ours there. And we are not a rich family - my parents were both teachers (which is not a goldmine in Poland).
When I came to Britain I was shocked to see how small houses are here. Two people can pass each other on the stairs - that was something unimaginable for me.
dinosteveus1:
Anyway, what gives YOU the right to choose? One out, all out. Don’t go picking favourites, it’s not nice. There’s loads of fit 'Ski Babes that could stay, but it wouldn’t be fair on the vfugly ones, so they can all naff off.
Yeah! He’s right! All for one - one for all. If you want me, you have to accept all 2 milions of us
Thanks toby, I was amused 
commonrail:
i`m not worried about the edl.they have as much right to voice thier opinions as everybody else.if we live in an era of free speech,then it must be free speech for one and all.
there are plenty of other minority groups making their feelings felt,so why pick on edl
Why because sections of this post are intended and in alignment with their splintered view points.
Saaamon wrote:
You say no offence to orys but is that because you know him and realise he’s a decent person, despite where he comes from? Perharps if you got to know some more easten europeans you mite like them too, just a thought.Oh, he just can’t tell me in my face all that after all the help and advice I gave him when he was going to Poland to rip British dentists off their jobs (I think I can say that, since he thanked me publicly for the advice I gave him on PM).
LMFAO Says it all really
Wheel Nut:
‘… no-one had a choice where they were born and every single one of us will try to better ourselves…’
To ‘…better ourselves…’ is all very well - but what’s the cost to those getting in the way?
Also, who exactly pays the price of ‘…every single one of us…’ doing the jack ‘bettering’?
The Devil lies in such detail.
Without guidance, decent considered management or moral values, I argue that blithely accepting such liberal flimsy has resulted into a kind of high-speed Darwinian chaos whereby very few know (or dare for fear of being un-PC) how to be part of a hitherto and reasonably decent society any more 
Yea, what Keith said +1
Happy Keith:
Wheel Nut:
‘… no-one had a choice where they were born and every single one of us will try to better ourselves…’To ‘…better ourselves…’ is all very well - but what’s the cost to those getting in the way?
Also, who exactly pays the price of ‘…every single one of us…’ doing the jack ‘bettering’?
The Devil lies in such detail.
Without guidance, decent considered management or moral values, I argue that blithely accepting such liberal flimsy has resulted into a kind of high-speed Darwinian chaos whereby very few know (or dare for fear of being un-PC) how to be part of a hitherto and reasonably decent society any more
& the poles are to blame for that ? Bit rich !
If we had politicians that cared about people rather than looking after party funders we might see change. Until then expect industry bosses ( party funders ) to encourage the importation of cheap labour. If you want to make a difference become a politician. But don’t blame the little man.
i dont blame anyone who wants to better themself,its human nature.i blame the system for ■■■■■■■ us over.i live in a area thats had the ■■■■ kicked out of it just recently,and just when we seem to have clawed our way out of the mire,we face the same again,this time the threat is from overseas. its hard to take when you see good local lads out of work,when local factories are being run with large proportions of migrant workers.
its all well and good helping other countries out,but surely its ok to look after our own once in a while
some people seem to be obsessed with being pc,so obsessed in fact,they are blinded to what is really happening in comunities such as mine
turnip:
Happy Keith:
Wheel Nut:
‘… no-one had a choice…’ etcTo ‘…better ourselves…’ is all very well…’ etc ‘…who exactly pays the price…’ and ‘…The Devil lies in such detail…’
‘…& the poles are to blame for that ? Bit rich… !’
Neither Poles nor any specific race, creed or religion was stated, meant or inferred - so stop causing trouble!
My point includes the observation that left wing political policies were undemocratically practised between 1997 - 2008 without a stated mandate upon a nation that has proven not to be be sufficiently robust or healthy to accept such snide manoeuvring without detrimental cost to it’s subjects, us
The mandarins of Labour went too far & too fast by hideously foisting their vision of the US of UK upon us. I’m saying that such politics has proven more dangerous than any amount of dangerous load LGV drivers, but who is currently holding Blair and the other (now mute) Muppets to account (perhaps for an overdue CPC in ‘Nation Management’?) other than UKIP
I work for a company who employs many nationalities, from the packhouse to the transport, from the transport office, to the drivers. Drivers are paid the same as us, they work as good as us, but, One of the poles said to me the other day Why are the english against us, why do they tell us to go home, i have a house here, a mortgage, and the property is worth £30 grand less than what i paid for it.
Thats one example, the brits however, moan about how frugal the poles are, well, they are here to earn, and spending their hard earned cash on truck bling, or large fry ups at the local cafe is not for them. they do and will socialise with everyone, if you allow it, they will buy you a coffee, if you allow it, but some people will not allow it, will not socialise, and slag them off for being foreign.
We do have a problem with immigration/migration, that is through the rules laid down by unnelected, over paid eurocrats in brussels, who state that we have to pay benefits, give them housing, and support them. Our biggest problem is control over europeans who want to migrate, who are allowed to claim child benefit for kids who are not here, no one bats an eyelid until the kid reaches 16 yrs of age, even if the parents return to their homeland, after claiming, they just take the cash out of the bank, thats been paid in for their use, and yet they are not contributing anything anymore. So the government tries to keep us quiet, by stating they are going to cap the amount of foreigners coming here, but if you read the small print, it only affects those from outside the eu, so the migration from within europe still exists + the queues in calais, who know that they will be housed, fed, and given sufficient funds for the lovely existance, at taxpayers expense of course. I am not against any foreigner who wants to come here to work, pay into the system, and rightfully receives benefits, what gets up my nose are the ones who come here, cannot/will not learn our language, yet expects us to work to pay for their lifestyles, while they sit at home on their arses, and so do a lot of brits.The foreign hauliers that come here, are mostly on a one way reward, for most of them go back to northern europe empty, so thats not taking our jobs, or work, ok they are not contributing to our road network, are not buying our expensive fuel, but the cost also to them is quite high, theres no cheap fuel anywhere, maybe in their homelands, but i doubt it, and belly tanks are banned throughout most european countries anyway. What about when we used to exploit the cheap fuel, throughout the eastern bloc, is that too a sin, we all did it, and no one complained. How many brits work for german companies, or dutch companies, or swiss companies, for we are doing the same as johnny foreigner.
As was said in an earlier part of this thread…like it, or lump it…its here to stay.
Spacemonkeypg:
But in short the comments on hear are those similar with the EDL an alike and its worrying
If you watched the programme about EDL the other night on C4 , Proud and Prejudiced , you would , perhaps, have some understanding…obviously you didn’t and don’t; you do try to come across as an Intellect…but an Intellect can spell for starters… you need to get your facts straight and incl the one on your avatar…
routier:
Spacemonkeypg:
But in short the comments on hear are those similar with the EDL an alike and its worryingIf you watched the programme about EDL the other night on C4 , Proud and Prejudiced , you would , perhaps, have some understanding…obviously you didn’t and don’t; you do try to come across as an Intellect…but an Intellect can spell for starters… you need to get your facts straight and incl the one on your avatar…
If you wish to make comments in regards to my English a little hint.
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