V8 Passion:
i have my ears and eyes open, u see name plates in british motors with mirek pawl udi pieter and the like it should be stopped now,
I agree, stop it now, nameplates in the window is daft. I haven’t heard a number plate yet though.
ATJT:
V8 Passion:
there should be no british workers out of work whilst them zb are here working, [zb] them all off and hopefully us lads can get back to work,Why do you think foreigners are getting work ahead of brits?
I don’t know, why could that be?! there’s one or two pointers in this thread though! 
Olog Hai:
ATJT:
V8 Passion:
there should be no british workers out of work whilst them zb are here working, [zb] them all off and hopefully us lads can get back to work,Why do you think foreigners are getting work ahead of brits?
I don’t know, why could that be?! there’s one or two pointers in this thread though!
Exactly. Some of the utter crap I’ve read in this thread from British drivers speaks way louder about why they’re out of work than “foreigners” supposedly taking “their” jobs.
Just a wee observation from today and no comment from me, as I am not in position to criticize Brits, who are my hosts…
As you may know I am doing parcel delivery job just to catch some cash before christmas. Agency sending 7-10 drivers each day.
Today two other agency drivers just dropped the keys and paperwork and went home as they were very unhappy of conditions of their work. You won’t believe me, the company was short of mobile phones and they asked them to send a miss call if necessary and they will call them back.
Then they had to wait with the others in the queue for paperwork, then follow security procedures like everyone else, and , what was the worst thing, try to imagine, after vans were sorted to leave they were asked to do for about 35 drops each!!!
I can’t calm down after seeing british drivers treated in such nasty way… 
( I sorted my van, then wasted one hour becouse one parcel was missing then did my 43 drops without sat nav in the town, when I was maybe 5 times before and I was home about 17:10… ) 
when uk motors are parked up in yards etc there will be still the same amount of easterners trucking on our roads toll free working cheaply having accidents crashing into cars etc when will you lot realise they have had us over they need airlines cutting curtains slashing diesel nicked anything to ■■ them up,
V8 Passion:
when uk motors are parked up in yards etc there will be still the same amount of easterners trucking on our roads toll free working cheaply having accidents crashing into cars etc when will you lot realise they have had us over they need airlines cutting curtains slashing diesel nicked anything to [zb] them up,
Yeah, shoot em in the face ! 
does it not wind some uk lads up but we are sat at home whilst them knb jockeys are working, a friend reckons felixstowe harwich and ipswich ferry terminals are overun with motors from the east, shouldnt be allowed,
V8 Passion:
does it not wind some uk lads up but we are sat at home whilst them knb jockeys are working, a friend reckons felixstowe harwich and ipswich ferry terminals are overun with motors from the east, shouldnt be allowed,
i take it, from reading your “entertaining” posts on here that you are out of work?
It would have been nice if instead of pushing it right up the British workers a few of the easteren european lads had said “Lets have some solidarity, we’ll only work for the same pay and conditions as you after all, you are letting us live in your country.”
Unfortunately it didn’t happen like that. As Peter Kay said “SEND THE BUGGERS BACK”
shuttlespanker:
V8 Passion:
does it not wind some uk lads up but we are sat at home whilst them knb jockeys are working, a friend reckons felixstowe harwich and ipswich ferry terminals are overun with motors from the east, shouldnt be allowed,i take it, from reading your “entertaining” posts on here that you are out of work?s
im working at moment friend but quite worried about the future you twistlock boys aint to bad because the eastern trucks havent started to cart them yet but who knows what the future holds. would they be allowed to pull deep sea boxes, some belg reg trucks got stopped from doing boxes this year,
I can’t see this getting any better, you are not blessed with a government who would put its own first in anyway and I never get the feeling there is any kind of pride of being British as a whole, it seems to have long gone, its perhaps more obvious to anyone who has been of of the country for a few years, but thats the way it seems to me. Also as the screws tighten in the slowdown Mr Boss will try to do anything to stay afloat and if thats moving goods using a transport from Częstochowa rather than Cleckheaton thats what he is going to do, if he wants to employ someone from the Eastern Europe because they are cheaper or do the work, thats what he will do. I would have thought niceties have gone out the window now.
We have a lot of Polish in Denmark, they are needed to cover a wide range of tasks that the Danes have no manpower for, but its seems they only come and get a job if that job can’t be filled by a native, okay a few are conned in via a dodgy/canny operator, but by and large thats the deal, it seems very fair way of doing it. That of course has not happened in the UK big style, boy oh boy was I shocked when I arrive back 3 years ago, I personally do not think its the right way to do it, but it been allowed to happen.
Next problem when things may improve maybe Mr Boss does not want you back: I was in a Hotel in Denmark, there was a Polish bloke doing some pluming and in the bar was chatting to the owner he was telling me he gives this guy a ring if he has some plumbing problems, because he can get here quicker from Poland than the local plumber would from the same town in Denmark, does a better job and does not spend the whole time talking on a phone, drinking coffee or complaining. Plus the fact that while he is here he does other odd jobs to make it worthwhile .
The stereotype of a Pole. someone who wears a cardigan, has a mustache, eats cabbage for all meals, shrugs shoulders and crashes trucks all day is not one I would subscribe to, its a fact they have much stronger qualities then we have in the west, we used to, but we do not have these anymore.
From my viewpoint this country has been badly run for many years and it can’t hide the fact any longer, chickens coming home to roost and all of that. When I was here in the summer and with the high fuel prices I really thought the mood in the country was enough is enough, I thought it will kick off, everyone has had enough and what happened, bugger all, you sat and took it, token efforts only and of all the industries in the UK drivers could bring it to its knees in days,but no nothing. Thats a tough one to come back from I would have thought.
I would have thought the Poles are a very small part of the problem to be honest.
i agree wiyh you brit pete,i speak a bit of french and italian,it was good when i lived in belgium but dont mean ef all here,i seem to be more of a threat than an asset 
.if you look back to the old total days in zeeb it was all nations yes,but now there are no west eu trucks we have been undercut,the total cafe was always full,look at it now 
,my father inlaw still lives near brugges works for brit european and he tells me whats going on and its not good for any west eu company,belgians used to be cheap thats why they had to run round the clock but even they have been undercut,so what chance do we stand 
you can be the best driver in europe but if someone is cheaper they get the job…anyway ive got name down back in belg companies for work and when it picks up am out of this dump,my partner wont want to go back but thats a prob i will have to sort out later…may see you around,take it easy.
drew128:
The stereotype of a Pole. someone who wears a cardigan, has a mustache, eats cabbage for all meals, shrugs shoulders and crashes trucks all day is not one I would subscribe to
I think it is quite accurate tho. If you throw in that they usually wear heavily skid-marked purple Y-fronts you are almost there.
JeffA:
drew128:
The stereotype of a Pole. someone who wears a cardigan, has a mustache, eats cabbage for all meals, shrugs shoulders and crashes trucks all day is not one I would subscribe toI think it is quite accurate tho. If you throw in that they usually wear heavily skid-marked purple Y-fronts you are almost there.
From my post that is all you can pull out to comment on 
I can’t actually comment on Polish mens underpants I am afraid, so maybe your an expert in that department 
While i cannot imagine the UK gets the cream of the crop coming to drive trucks in the UK I think the stereotype is as correct as stating that the British driver stands around shoveling bacon and egg sandwiches into their gobs, complaining about this and that in a 20 year old ERF with a rusty trailer, only partly true.
I do believe I know more Poles than you do, I treat them with respect, they are not from the 3rd World and I suspect in any job they do get in the UK its not hard for them at all, easy work is all that is here for them, lets face it.
ORYS, JAKI KOLOR MAJTECZEK MASZ DZISIAJ?
acceptme:
so your telling me that just because im from another country i shouldnt be allowed to work here. its not our fault the british goverment has let so many foreingers in… what are your views on people who migrate to america etc to work… they are taking jobs from the local people as well or is this ok in your mind?
They are not taking jobs from locals in America or Canada as the company has to prove to the local government that they have done all they can to find a “Canadian or American” worker first. Also there are laws about wages. They have to pay an immigrant the same as a national.
There is no such thing in this country, so immigrants are coming here and firms are getting away with paying the bare minimum. This brings OUR wages down. Johnny foreigner is still getting in real terms 3 or 4 times what he would earn in Poland or wherever, but we are getting LESS because the rates have come down. I DON’T blame the foreign worker, I blame the UK government for allowing everyone in from day one and I also blame the EU. Since joining the EU every aspect of our lives has changed for the worse. Almost ALL of our once great industries have gone because we joined the EU. And before anyone says we would be worse off out of it, just take a look at NORWAY. Norway isn’t in the EU and it’s been voted the best place to live for quality of life etc in the European Continent. If a country as small as Norway can have the best quality of life out of the EU then just think what might have been if we never joined.
The day the Berlin Wall came down spelt the end of our way of life as we knew it.
EnglishTrucker:
Since joining the EU every aspect of our lives has changed for the worse. Almost ALL of our once great industries have gone because we joined the EU. And before anyone says we would be worse off out of it, just take a look at NORWAY. Norway isn’t in the EU and it’s been voted the best place to live for quality of life etc in the European Continent. If a country as small as Norway can have the best quality of life out of the EU then just think what might have been if we never joined.
The problems I see with what you say there is that the Germans are also members of the EU and the still actually manufacture things which other countries want. I agree that there shouldn’t have been an open door policy in the UK to allow all newly joined states’ citizens in without any restrictions. But that is the fault of the Government here and not anybody who has come over to make a better life for themselves. While Germany has encouraged people to qualify in Engineering and gone that route everybody in the UK (wll almost everybody) has been obsesse about selling over-price houses to each other. And the best graduates so I understand have been taken up the the City which really only shifts money from one place to another and making vast sums whilst doing so. But that seems to have hit a wall now. Is there light at the end of the tunnel somebody asked Nouriel Roubini that Amercian Economist which ploughs his own furrow…“Yes, the lights of an on-coming train about to crash”.
Oh yes, Norway is an oil rich nation, and I think it has the highest standard of living in the whole world if I remember correctly. Can’t compare the UK to them.
Simon71:
bubsy06:
there are loads of uk drivers out of work but plenty of foreigners working which is obviously wrong. There should be a new law which says that if a uk driver comes looking for work at a company and there are johnny foreigners working there then they should get kicked out and the uk driver should get the work. This goverment needs to start looking after its own.Plenty of rubbish on this thread, and yes some of it is borderline racism.
At the end of the day (Bubsy, V8 Passion etc) the British job market is completely free (as you know) and works on a supply and demand basis.
No point in crying that “foreigners” come over here and take “Britsh jobs” when they are clearly prepared to take work from firms that perhaps don’t pay top dollar wages, have shiny new trucks etc etc when perhaps British drivers have not done so in the past.
You seem to forget that all these “foreigners” came over here and got jobs when there was a driver shortage - it’s not their problem that the economy is in trouble and British drivers are being laid off, is it? I bet some of these “foreigners” have been laid off too but they don’t come crying on here saying what an injustice it is.
And you can’t blame British firms for employing cheaper foreighn labour in what is a very low margin industry, they do what they can to survive. There is still over capacity in the transport industry, so it’s the haulier who can keep his costs down who survives over another haulier who can’t…
And you can’t blame foreign drivers/hauliers for coming over here on their cheaper derv, if the situation was reversed we would o exactly the same. You can only blame the Govt for the high level of tax on derv.
I feel for a lot of drivers out there who have little or no work but it won’t get you anywhere blaming all and sundry for your problems.
How is that racism■■?
I haven’t read anything so far that is racist!!!
Why is it when people want to debate the state of the country and the word FOREIGNER is used then it’s automatically RACIST■■? This is just a liberal left wing slur to destroy free speech.
EnglishTrucker:
How is that racism■■?I haven’t read anything so far that is racist!!!
Why is it when people want to debate the state of the country and the word FOREIGNER is used then it’s automatically RACIST■■? This is just a liberal left wing slur to destroy free speech.
I have to agree. The phrase “borderline racist/racism” keeps cropping up on this thread.
The Polish are a nation, not a race, therefore it’s xenophbia not racism. The conotations of the latter being far more ugly than the former.
This is a very divisive thread so far, with feeling running high in all quarters. Every one has their own opinions, this is a good thing.
The facts remain though, as previously highlighted that the people who came to work here did so legally and satisfied a demand in the labour market.
It is no fault of theirs that the economy has crashed although it does seem to make them a soft target for venting anger at the national situation that should be directed at the sly b…ZB…s in Whitehall and Brussels that created the bloody mess.
And btw I say this as a driver that hasn’t turned a wheel for nearly a month now!
I tend to agree with a lot of which Englishtrucker has written, but I’d like to point out that although the Americans haven’t had the huge influx of East Europeans that we have I do feel that that is mainly because of the geography involved.
The Americans (the southern states in particular) have had huge problems with immigration from Mexico and the ensuing crime/cheap labour problems too.
It’s worth bearing in mind too that it’s not just Britain suffering a huge influx too. If anyone lived or served in West Germany before the wall fell they’d remember the horrendous problems caused by the Turks there. A race one step up the food chain from ■■■■■■ IMO.
I always see foreign trucks around in Cardiff. Mainly Polish trucks. Saw a French and a Netherland truck the other day. But Polish are the most popular foreign I see. There was even a sprinter polish van I saw parked outside a warehouse.