eddie snax:
Bluey Circles:
Has DSG boxes ever been fitted to trucks, they change amazingly fast, probably quicker than constant mesh crash, .
I know some of us bang on about the Twin Splitter, but they were a seriously quick shift. Pre select the next gear on the toggle switch fitted on the gear stick, then simply break torque by lifting of the throttle, then imeadiatly put the power back on, and the gear is already changed Its taken you longer to read the sentence in red, than the gear change took to complete. The gear changes requiring a move of the gear stick itself, were only limited by how quick you could blip the throttle and move the stick. Awesome 
yep. I kinow
Some of these modern tractros dont evn break torque, srsly, they can change up gear with a 5 furrow plough in heavy ground, going up hill, blow your socks off mate - srsly
eddie snax:
Juddian:
mucker85:
Radar19:
I think the iShift is the closest you’ll get to a DSG.
You can get the dual clutch I shift.
Yes i understood the twin clutch had been trialed, didn’t realise you could spec one yet…that should be as fast changing as a twin split, hope its as reliable as one…
I think they’ve been a list option for about a year, but I think they have a hefty price tag.
Bluey Circles:
Has DSG boxes ever been fitted to trucks, they change amazingly fast, probably quicker than constant mesh crash, .
I know some of us bang on about the Twin Splitter, but they were a seriously quick shift. Pre select the next gear on the toggle switch fitted on the gear stick, then simply break torque by lifting of the throttle, then imeadiatly put the power back on, and the gear is already changed Its taken you longer to read the sentence in red, than the gear change took to complete. The gear changes requiring a move of the gear stick itself, were only limited by how quick you could blip the throttle and move the stick. Awesome
Absolutely true. and not forgetting if you were on a steep hill or needed some lightning fast shifts you could always hit the clutch brake button at the bottom of the pedal travel which would make the shift instantaneous, literally as fast as you could hit the pedal down and off the gear would shift, nearest i’ve ever come to constant acceleration like a Scalextric car.
Yes we all played a right bloody tune on then for a day or 30 till we got used to it, but they didn’t break and once mastered it was the only box you’d ever want.
I had it mostly in a MAN F90, probably same as you Eddie, though mine was just a humble 332, however it was ‘interestingly’ geared and was capable of cruising at 95…so i’m told 
but the MAN engine as well as high revving in its day suited the box down to the ground because the revs would rise and fall faster than any other engine at the time that i experienced, as you said, even without using the clutch brake it was miles faster than any box i’ve used before, or since.
By the way, the 332 didn’t pull anything like the previous model 331, which would go up Highgate Hill with 15 ton on at 50 where the 332 wouldn’t reach 40 so much had they cut it back, still well powerful enough for our never full weight work mind.
Must admit i’d like to try a twin clutch Volvo, suspect as Bluey Circles mentions about tractors they are going to be the business, but at a price.
5.0 V8 Supercharged in my Jag. 510 BHP in an aluminium body.
Hills are a distant memory…But fuel stations sadly are not.
peterm:
Punchy Dan:
There’s no replacement for displacement ,it’s not just about horsepower.
Yep, a variation on ‘there ain’t no substitute for cubic inches’
I am with you on this,
I had a few days in one of those FH16 750 Volvo’s last year, true enough, not much weight on lettuces, but when I had a bulker overflowing with carrots, that was pretty heavy,
but the thing never went over 600 revs flat out on all roads, up hill & down dale,
Used to think they were pointless, overkill, posey things, - but attitude has changed now - was a joy to drive it
Bluey Circles:
yep. I kinow
Some of these modern tractros dont evn break torque, srsly, they can change up gear with a 5 furrow plough in heavy ground, going up hill, blow your socks off mate - srsly
Yeah that is an awesome delivery of power, to be able to do that .
The only thing I’d say to that, is that when ploughing or the like, you require torque all the while, break torque you stop, so there is a need to have a power delivery system, that enables you to shift gears whilst pulling. With a Truck, there is always the ability to free roll, though very briefly, before you re-apply the power, so the need for a dual clutch system is not as great, until or unless it proves its worth in fuel savings 
Juddian:
eddie snax:
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I know some of us bang on about the Twin Splitter, but they were a seriously quick shift. Pre select the next gear on the toggle switch fitted on the gear stick, then simply break torque by lifting of the throttle, then imeadiatly put the power back on, and the gear is already changed Its taken you longer to read the sentence in red, than the gear change took to complete. The gear changes requiring a move of the gear stick itself, were only limited by how quick you could blip the throttle and move the stick. Awesome
Absolutely true. and not forgetting if you were on a steep hill or needed some lightning fast shifts you could always hit the clutch brake button at the bottom of the pedal travel which would make the shift instantaneous, literally as fast as you could hit the pedal down and off the gear would shift, nearest i’ve ever come to constant acceleration like a Scalextric car.
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Oh yeah I’d forgot about that, 
Juddian:
eddie snax:
Yes we all played a right bloody tune on then for a day or 30 till we got used to it, but they didn’t break and once mastered it was the only box you’d ever want.
I had it mostly in a MAN F90, probably same as you Eddie, though mine was just a humble 332, however it was ‘interestingly’ geared and was capable of cruising at 95…so i’m told
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To true about playing tunes, for a week or 2, but once you became its master, the twin splitter was true statement of man and machine in harmony.
I don’t think MAN put them in to many, they were deffo the option, I think a 16 speed ZF syncro was the standard, and yes mine was an F90
I don’t know what its top speed was, because the Tacho needle stopped at 80mph, but I’ll tell you now, some 22years or more later, that I had that needle on the stop, and the rev counter was still rising. 4 lads in a Mini on the M5 near Exeter, eat my dust, and don’t take on the mighty MAN again, just to sight an example
^^^i bet that’s pretty awesome.
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nomiS36:
^^^i bet that’s pretty awesome.
Were you referring to this
Juddian:
[I had it mostly in a MAN F90, probably same as you Eddie, though mine was just a humble 332, however it was ‘interestingly’ geared and was capable of cruising at 95…so i’m told .
And this
eddie snax:
I don’t know what its top speed was, because the Tacho needle stopped at 80mph, but I’ll tell you now, some 22years or more later, that I had that needle on the stop, and the rev counter was still rising. 4 lads in a Mini on the M5 near Exeter, eat my dust, and don’t take on the mighty MAN again, just to sight an example
If so, well yes Mate, until you got the points 
bloody spoil sports
. The F16 were running anywhy just on low reps to keep fuel down,but was running very well with that. Full Trottle didnt bring much in Speed and Power but Fuel would have gone up dramatically,as some proofed 