Punchy Dan:
You been on the beer again trigger ? Haulmaster ,you mean Foden 12 speed ?
gin gin and tonic gin and gin thin i need a beer to water it down
robroy:
wirksworth rod:
robroy:
Big Roy:
Cue robroy for chapter and verseIâm off to watch some paint dry before he arrives
During the warâŚ
Nah, I preferred the 13 speed Fuller box anyway, but being the driving God I am, they were both a piece of â â â â to me
, I wonât bore the arses of you about David Browns, and Spicers I will spare you all that.
Yeh, I know, âŚyou are all soooo disappointed
Maybe next time, Iâm certain you cannot wait.By the way Iâm an amateur compared to Truckyboy
tell em abought the haulemaster box with the hocky stick low direck and hight that will get em best of all the 2 speed axle
Haulemaster box? Even I canât remember that, what kind of motor was that in?
I may have used one and canât remember.
Took my Class1 in 79 in one of these babies, it was an old motor even then.0
It had a 2 speed axle, splitter, it was like a stick in a bucket, you didnât select a gear, you just aimed for it and hoped for the best.
was that the first tilt cab and v6. wh phillips ad a fleet of them when i was 6 years old and whent with my dad i wood leen over and pull up the red button for him at the side of the stick happy days
When i was 6 Rodders i used to go with my dad in a Volvo f7 8 legger and did the range change for him on the dash
When I werâ lad this were all just fields. Men were men, women did the washing and trucks had Eaton Twin Splitters. Those werât days
wirksworth rod:
was that the first tilt cab and v6. wh phillips ad a fleet of them when i was 6 years old and whent with my dad i wood leen over and pull up the red button for him at the side of the stick happy days
The motor in the pic wasnât the actual one I took my test in, that is a pic I found on net as an example.
It was a training school motor, I donât know if it was a tilt cab or not.
I do remember the red button you are on about, if you didnât get the revs right it used to go into âfalse neutralâ and you only had a week to master it, along with the absence of pas if I remember rightly.
I have often remarked on here about there being little difference today between a modern truck and a car, but
getting out of my car then and learning on that â â â â heap was a whole new driving experience and not in a good way by any means.
Terry T:
When I werâ lad this were all just fields. Men were men, women did the washing and trucks had Eaton Twin Splitters. Those werât days
Easy to take the â â â â mate, but at least then, and unlike today, there were a lot more HGV drivers than car drivers with HGV licences. 
If weâre being honest, most of us who ever used an Eaton Twin-Split are proud of the fact that we know how to, would enjoy a day out with one but realistically wouldnât want to go back to it five days a week; like roping and sheeting it takes an experienced man to do the job properly.
Is it also possible, perhaps, that we yearn for the days when the job was a bit more laid-back, and neither we not our lorries werenât so much at the mercy of office bods with electronic trickery and surveillance, who are forever telling us how to do the job weâve been doing for years, but who without those gizmos probably couldnât find their way out of the door?
Driving a lorry is still a better option for many of us than working in a factory or stacking shelves, but thereâs no doubt whatsoever that much of the fun has gone out of the job certainly in the last ten years or so.
Sidevalve:
If weâre being honest, most of us who ever used an Eaton Twin-Split are proud of the fact that we know how to, would enjoy a day out with one but realistically wouldnât want to go back to it five days a week; like roping and sheeting it takes an experienced man to do the job properly.Is it also possible, perhaps, that we yearn for the days when the job was a bit more laid-back, and neither we not our lorries werenât so much at the mercy of office bods with electronic trickery and surveillance, who are forever telling us how to do the job weâve been doing for years, but who without those gizmos probably couldnât find their way out of the door?
Driving a lorry is still a better option for many of us than working in a factory or stacking shelves, but thereâs no doubt whatsoever that much of the fun has gone out of the job certainly in the last ten years or so.
How bloody right you are. Iâve not driven the twin split, but road rangers, Foden 12 speed, DB, etc. Iâd go back to driving in the 60âs any day of the week⌠much less stress.
Punchy Dan:
taffytrucker:
Punchy Dan:
I suspect I drive a twin splitter more often than anyone on here and even iam sick of hearing about them .And howâd you work that out
Err could be because I have a lorry with one and also because my brother has some too of which I go and load most weeks .
Yea and thereâs plenty of ex pats on here that drive them all day every day. The Eaton Fuller box is still pretty much the standard box in Canada and the US
More worrying is I do actually own a Rover 75 am I doomed. (Lovely old car)
midlifetrucker:
More worrying is I do actually own a Rover 75 am I doomed. (Lovely old car)
Should be plenty of spares on the shelf lmaoo
The diesel is fairly bullet proof.
Had a Rover 214 ragtop years ago and gotta admit it was a pretty good car
Sidevalve:
If weâre being honest, most of us who ever used an Eaton Twin-Split are proud of the fact that we know how to, would enjoy a day out with one but realistically wouldnât want to go back to it five days a week; like roping and sheeting it takes an experienced man to do the job properly.Is it also possible, perhaps, that we yearn for the days when the job was a bit more laid-back, and neither we not our lorries werenât so much at the mercy of office bods with electronic trickery and surveillance, who are forever telling us how to do the job weâve been doing for years, but who without those gizmos probably couldnât find their way out of the door?
Driving a lorry is still a better option for many of us than working in a factory or stacking shelves, but thereâs no doubt whatsoever that much of the fun has gone out of the job certainly in the last ten years or so.
Could not agree more mate with all on that post.
The rot started when cab phones were fitted, that was a big enough culture shock, but who then would, or could, have predicted the level of control and surveillance that would evolve to now where they literally know when you stop for a â â â â 
The only up side is that we are running around in sheer luxury compared to what we used to have to put up with. Even that has resulted in a downside, with the appearance of the clowns who call themselves âdriversâ âŚwho then would not be able to hack the likes of a Eaton, Spicer, or D.Brown, so instead of being among us, would have â â â â ed off to flip burgers or something, and left us drivers alone.
Some of the younger ones, ( the ones that think they know it, but in reality know â â â â all ) take the â â â â . It donât bother me, in a way I feel sorry for them that they never experienced the job when it was less stressful, less supervised, and more laid back, but needed actual âskillsâ to do it.
As you said keep the old gearboxes in history, I will stick with my (â â â â easy to drive) Actros.
Yep Sidevalve gets it.
As well as phones the first incling to how monitored we would be was the tacho, the writing was on the wall then.
My son is a youngish (well compared to me) driver, literally weeks after he passed his test he, stuck on agency till he got a crack at the car transporters with a scabby outfit, got a few months booking on tippers, he got issued a Scammel Constructer with yes a good old ETS.
Had him on the phone asking for the rudiments how to use it, my words to him were to tell him how lucky to have the chance and to learn that box because once youâve cracked that it wonât matter what gearbox anyone shoves at you at any time itâll be a piece of â â â â in comparison, so he went out and played a tune on it like we all did and he learned it, and he still says now it was the best thing that could have happened, nothing phases him now.
I differ to some of the others here, i donât like modern lorries one bit and nothing more than the gearboxes, theyâve gone too far now as has the surveillance and monitoring which had to because as any idiot can drive a modern lorry means that idiots are doing so.
Iâve asked for a proper gearbox time after time where i work, to no avail, the lorry situation is the one thing that bugs me about my job which is otherwise bloody near perfect, iâd give me eye teeth to drive a real lorry with a real gearbox again for the final 6 years i have left before retirement (assuming the goal posts donât shift in the meantime), it wouldnât necessarily have to be an ETS, any non synchro box would do, coupled to a gutsy engine of sufficient swept volume, 550+hp not needed if anything its silly willy waving when you van only do 55 mph max, its all about lugging ability which only comes with size, right engine you donât need 12/15 gears, 8 is plenty of which the top 6 are the only ones used on the open road.
Not one of the modern automated manual boxes is up to the close manoeuvering we took for granted with manual boxes and decent sized engines, if they were any bloody use at all Terberg would be fitting them in tugs.
Juddian:
Yep Sidevalve gets it.As well as phones the first incling to how monitored we would be was the tacho, the writing was on the wall then.
My son is a youngish (well compared to me) driver, literally weeks after he passed his test he, stuck on agency till he got a crack at the car transporters with a scabby outfit, got a few months booking on tippers, he got issued a Scammel Constructer with yes a good old ETS.
Had him on the phone asking for the rudiments how to use it, my words to him were to tell him how lucky to have the chance and to learn that box because once youâve cracked that it wonât matter what gearbox anyone shoves at you at any time itâll be a piece of â â â â in comparison, so he went out and played a tune on it like we all did and he learned it, and he still says now it was the best thing that could have happened, nothing phases him now.I differ to some of the others here, i donât like modern lorries one bit and nothing more than the gearboxes, theyâve gone too far now as has the surveillance and monitoring which had to because as any idiot can drive a modern lorry means that idiots are doing so.
Iâve asked for a proper gearbox time after time where i work, to no avail, the lorry situation is the one thing that bugs me about my job which is otherwise bloody near perfect, iâd give me eye teeth to drive a real lorry with a real gearbox again for the final 6 years i have left before retirement (assuming the goal posts donât shift in the meantime), it wouldnât necessarily have to be an ETS, any non synchro box would do, coupled to a gutsy engine of sufficient swept volume, 550+hp not needed if anything its silly willy waving when you van only do 55 mph max, its all about lugging ability which only comes with size, right engine you donât need 12/15 gears, 8 is plenty of which the top 6 are the only ones used on the open road.
Not one of the modern automated manual boxes is up to the close manoeuvering we took for granted with manual boxes and decent sized engines, if they were any bloody use at all Terberg would be fitting them in tugs.
Like this modern day steering wheel attendant
gazsa401:
Juddian:
as any idiot can drive a modern lorry means that idiots are doing so.
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Like this modern day steering wheel attendant
That looks a lot like the place I had problems with the other week, on the ââYou tube victimââ thread I started.
Is it Millbrook in Devon?
BtwâŚme being a driver and not a steering wheel attendant I did eventually get it round, albeit with difficulty, and to cover every avenue of abuse to those that never seen the thread, I rang first and got the go ahead, one way in one way out, had probs on return journey only.
Arse covered I reckon,âŚdonât tell me Iâm good, I already know
robroy:
gazsa401:
Juddian:
as any idiot can drive a modern lorry means that idiots are doing so.
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Like this modern day steering wheel attendantThat looks a lot like the place I had problems with the other week, on the ââYou tube victimââ thread I started.
Is it Millbrook in Devon?BtwâŚme being a driver and not a steering wheel attendant
Arse covered donât tell me Iâm good, I already know
Well done drive it always pays to plan ahead and like you if unsure always ask
To be fair to the Argos driver in the above pic, its always a difficult one when you find yourself at such a point, and no one knows at which point of the manouever the picture was takenâŚdonât suppose iâm the only one who would have been reversing through the streets rather than try that one though.
Do you attempt to make the turn in one, which maybe sees you with less likelihood of making the turn, but if the turn proves impossible even if were you edge it twenty times, then at least you should in theory be able to back out again.
I bet weâve all done the take several bites at such a turn and prayed it would actually go round in the end, cos backing out when youâve done say 4 shunts to keep the tractor as far out as possible is a real swine to recover from and back out from againâŚthat ring a bell or two people?
midlifetrucker:
More worrying is I do actually own a Rover 75 am I doomed. (Lovely old car)
Should be fine as long as you dont get the urge to place a hat on the rear parcel shelf.
I had loads of Rover 800âs, dirt cheap and a lovely ride, talking of which I lost me virginity in a silver one (true story, not the usual bollox I come out with).