Eastern Europian staff at transport office,Good in.Good or?

Relax Orys the British have been bone idle since the end of the 2nd World War hell we even had to import West Indians to do the work the Brits wouldn’t do.We are
our own worse enemy,exept of course for you when your out spying.Just spent a weekend in a hotel at Goodwood,not one British person working there all Polish
and can I say the social occasion the staff were having last night,the young ladies had the eyes dropping out of their sockets.I have an uncle retired now but he never worked a day in his life,he knew the system inside out spent all his spare time reading up about it and claimed for everything.But now we have run out of money!!!

Armagedon:
Relax Orys the British have been bone idle since the end of the 2nd World War hell we even had to import West Indians to do the work the Brits wouldn’t do.We are
our own worse enemy,exept of course for you when your out spying.Just spent a weekend in a hotel at Goodwood,not one British person working there all Polish
and can I say the social occasion the staff were having last night,the young ladies had the eyes dropping out of their sockets.I have an uncle retired now but he never worked a day in his life,he knew the system inside out spent all his spare time reading up about it and claimed for everything.But now we have run out of money!!!

I am waiting now for all guys to jump at you and tell you to bugger of from the blighty… Or it’s just because I am Polish I am not allowed to tell some things? :slight_smile:

Lorn trakta:
so its a level playing field is it, 24 points before you lose your licence, 12 points for a brit, who incidentaly does not have a licence for ‘life’, by your own admission your licence has no expiry date, unless thier are lies on your part?

Dear Lorn Tracta,

I am rushing to explain your doubts:

24 points in Poland, because system is different. You have more points, but you have also diffrent point weithgts to the offences you commit:

For example in Britain you will get 3 points of speeding. In Poland, you will get 1 to 10 points per speeding, depends of the weight of your offence. So in Britain I can be caught speeding 50% over the limit four times before I loose my license, because each time I will be given 3 points. (or does it mean that my licence will be withdrawn from me at fifth time? Can I still drive when I have 12 points?) In Poland if you speed 50% over the limit, you are given 10 points, so third time you got caught doing that you are loosing your driving license.

I agree, its is not a level playing field, as the point systems are different. I guess there are some places when British system is better, some where Polish system is better, but I never looked to close into it. I can do it for you if you wish and compare the point table if that is important for you.

As for having driving license for “life” - every Brit just go after ten years with a new picture and has his driving license exchanged. It is a formality until they reach certain age. The same system is now in Poland, but since I made my license under the old law, and law dont work backwards, I dont’ need to do that. To drive a lorry or do other vocational driving job I’ll need not only CPC but current medicals on a separate documents. Even in my age and I am 32 now. But I had off course medical examination before I was issued the license.

I don’t need this separate medicals in Britain, because if I want to drive the lorry in Britain I fall under British law. So in Britain I can drive lorry untill I am 45, then after that date I cannot use my Polish license to drive a truck here - if I want to continue trucking, I have to exchange my license to British, so I fall under the British scheme of medical examinations of the truck drivers.

There is only one question left: if I don’t want to drive a truck, but just drive my nissan micra when I will be old age.

In Poland, under the old law (and that still applies to me) if my doctor recons, that I should not be driving, he writes a report to a Polish equivalent of DVLA that I should have, in his opinion, my license withdrawn. I am then called for another medical examination and if that confirms my doctor concerns, it is withdrawn from me.

As for Britain, if I don’t want to be vocational driver, I have to exchange my license on a day I turn 70. That way I fall under the scheme of British medical examinations for elderly people.

So as you can see, there is nor any danger, nor any scum or loopholes involved.

And just so you don’t accuse me of lying again, this is a picture of Polish license with no “valid to” date:

I hope you feel better about it just now :slight_smile:

Lorn trakta:
‘‘And just so you don’t accuse me of lying again’’', ‘‘Unless thier are lies on your part?’’, the structure of the aforementioned is not an accusation of you lying, but no doubt you knew that,

I am sorry, I am not a native speaker, for me it looked like this. Could you please explain to me what you meant about “there are some lies on your part”? I am asking seriously, I am taking every oportunity to learn something more of the language, and there are all these little tastes that are obvious for a native speakers but not for me.

The economic migrants are as much needed in britain as more passengers on the Titanic

Well, no disagrement from me here. Altough 10 years ago you needed some, just you got much more than you expected when you invited Eastern Europeans :slight_smile:

Ok, so you are not accusing me of lying, but you just suggest that I might be lying?

Dear Lorn Trakta,

In all other languages I speak saying something like “You said that it is like that, so is it, or you were lying?” or similar is usualy unpolite. Therefore I was surprised that it is OK in English.

Thank you very much for that clarification.