orys:
‘… Pakistani people … rip out your country. It’s just amazing. But this is fault at the immigration policy…’
The UK doesn’t have meaningful immigration policies, neither re EU (cos that’d be illegal) nor to the Commonwealth of Leeching Sycophants 
Happy Keith:
orys:
‘… Pakistani people … rip out your country. It’s just amazing. But this is fault at the immigration policy…’The UK doesn’t have meaningful immigration policies, neither re EU (cos that’d be illegal) nor to the Commonwealth of Leeching Sycophants
I think it’s not really what I meant.
I give you an example.
I used to drive doing shop deliveries for a big Pakistani warehouse. The people working there are mostly asian. Vast mayority of them have masters degree!
How?
They come to UK on student visas. Then after they finish their studies, they go to work in this Pakistani warehouse, when everything is 100% legal. When they work there two years, they are granted right to stay on the basis that they worked 2 years after their studies.
Then they go to Pakistan where there is wife prepared by the parents waiting already. They come back bringing her along, then they start joining families procedure. They bring along her mom, their parents, their grannies, their aunties, cousins…
Then some of the divorce and go to Pakistan for another wife and all starts from the beginning.
One of the guys who was my driver mate told me he bring nearly 30 people from Pakistan along and noone except him is working legally, and HE WAS VERY PROUD OF HOW SMART THEY ARE! ( I guess I don’t have to mention that many of them were claiming benefits?)
I guess I do not have to tell you that as soon as the 2 years of legal employment passed, most of warehouse workers go to work to the corner shop. At several corner shops we were delivering to work ex warehouse employers. But somehow I doubt their employment in corner shop is fully legal. My own ex gf works in the supermarket run by pakistani guy and it was a big war with him to set up the employment relationship legal. He’s very religious man, so he do not sell any alcohol in his shop, yet his beliefs are not stopping him from ripping the country he’s living in on taxes and employers he employs on holiday and sick pay…
I think it would not be any discrimination if you change the law to that only these students, who were able to work 2 years in the trade they studied are allowed to stay. I mean that if he came here to study engineering, he has to find work as an engineer to be allowed to stay… By that you’ll keep cream of the cream of your asian students, and you’ll send everyone else back after earning on the tutition fees they paid to you…
orys:
My own ex gf works in the supermarket run by pakistani guy and it was a big war with him to set up the employment relationship legal. He’s very religious man, so he do not sell any alcohol in his shop, yet his beliefs are not stopping him from ripping the country he’s living in on taxes and employers he employs on holiday and sick pay…
It is the way of Islam to share wealth equally, they just forget how to share and it becomes very one sided Orys
limeyphil:
‘…[are] East Europeans undercutting…?’
I’m guessing not within the ‘Big Picture’ of the entire EU - which obviously excludes the loser nations of Norway & Switzerland not lucky enough to gift Van Rumpuy’s wedge. Why should it be questioned otherwise? It doesn’t matter within the dictatorial minds of EU fruitcakes desiring the holism, peace, no more World War or other identity-free, liberal greyness. Nor, in their minds, should it matter to an obedient citizen. If anyone still asks, simply slap them down with a Bigot badge pinned to their coat collar. Similar methodology was used between 39-45 by another undemocratic dictator.
orys:
‘… What a happy world …’
The role of a fantasy is to create such a place and are tools of escapism to construct something not otherwise real. Moomins, High Streets, the EU or any other example.
Fantasises aren’t proven to permanently achieve a reality for any significant period of time nor can they be convincingly shown to provide a fully satisfied life for all people. Hanging hopes onto a single fantasy and how long before it turns to rats? A look at the High Street illustrates a place of perma-fantasy that many have toward shopping. But despite folk’s reguarity in buying tat and spending & indulging a relentless string of desires it still turns pusses to sour, bellies to drag and skin to wrinkle.