Rowley010:
OVLOV JAY:
The problem I have with the under caution bit, is the dvsa are a private enterprise, and not a public body. There’s a whole other argument around objective enforcement that needs looking at too. What next? Bailiffs or heaven forbid, gatehouse hitlers being able to ask you questions under caution? Nanny state tactics
British transport police are a private police force yet still have full powers to do everything.
The civil nuclear constabulary again are private.
RSPCA are a charity yet can interview under caution.
I’m sure there’s more. Point being the fact DVSA are private doesn’t matter one little bit. They’ve still been given authority to act in the capacity in which they do, which includes conducting interviews under caution and taking people or companies to court.
So by saying I’m not going to attend because they are a private Micky mouse organisation with no actual authority to do anything will be a mistake, as they do have some authority. Don’t like that then start a protest and petition and get the law changed. Until then, I’d advise you to attend if you don’t want to make whatever it is worse.
Not this old one
RSPCA are a “charriddy mate” and get they all serious using the words of a caution but it’s not a caution. I could interview you the same if you knocked my fence over in a reliant robin and I wanted to make a claim. Means nothing, just mouth music. You dont have to be interviewed by rscpa any more than turning up to explain yourself to friends of the earth hippies. The rspca just dress like the po, use fake ranks and fake terms like caution to continue this drivel (that clearly works) that the public believe the rspca have some sort of special powers. They find evidence to either pass to the police (the same as I could) or try a bring a civil case (the same as I could).
The others are a bit different. They’re real. I wouldn’t refuse an interview with the dvsa, theyre not the rspca 
. Besides you want to get to the bottom of this drivel about missing miles. Take, legal advice and a solicitor if you can and go along.
If what theyre trying to do is gather evidence against a previously worked for company then fine, turn up but just refuse to answer any incriminating questions. If they want to prosecute someone then let them go ahead but i for one would not involve myself doing so. Make their ‘job’ harder for them not easier.
AndrewG:
If what theyre trying to do is gather evidence against a previously worked for company then fine, turn up but just refuse to answer any incriminating questions. If they want to prosecute someone then let them go ahead but i for one would not involve myself doing so. Make their ‘job’ harder for them not easier.
I think this is a bit dodgy. Advice seems that DVSA conduct formal interviews under caution when they are considering bringing a criminal prosecution against a company or individual. It seems the common advice is to seek legal advice ASAP. I couldn’t guarantee I’d spot an incriminating question in my own. The authorities are experts at these interviews. It’s easy to get boxed into a corner
In fact you are entitled to request the interview be postponed whilst you seek legal advice. Also it’s madness not to bring along legal assistance if you decide to go. Not attending could apparrantly adversely infer why you didn’t attend in that you had nothing to say that wouldn’t stand scrutiny. Just keeping quiet can damage your defence. Op, just go see a solicitor.
Some guidance here
solicitors4transport.co.uk/792/
The tax man can also question you under caution, It happened to me years ago when I made a pofit after my first years trading in light haulage, wanted to know where I got my start up money from as I paid cash for an Iveco Daily box van. They were satisfied with my fibs, err explanation !!
James the cat:
Rowley010:
OVLOV JAY:
The problem I have with the under caution bit, is the dvsa are a private enterprise, and not a public body. There’s a whole other argument around objective enforcement that needs looking at too. What next? Bailiffs or heaven forbid, gatehouse hitlers being able to ask you questions under caution? Nanny state tactics
British transport police are a private police force yet still have full powers to do everything.
The civil nuclear constabulary again are private.
RSPCA are a charity yet can interview under caution.
I’m sure there’s more. Point being the fact DVSA are private doesn’t matter one little bit. They’ve still been given authority to act in the capacity in which they do, which includes conducting interviews under caution and taking people or companies to court.
So by saying I’m not going to attend because they are a private Micky mouse organisation with no actual authority to do anything will be a mistake, as they do have some authority. Don’t like that then start a protest and petition and get the law changed. Until then, I’d advise you to attend if you don’t want to make whatever it is worse.
Not this old one
RSPCA are a “charriddy mate” and get they all serious using the words of a caution but it’s not a caution. I could interview you the same if you knocked my fence over in a reliant robin and I wanted to make a claim. Means nothing, just mouth music. You dont have to be interviewed by rscpa any more than turning up to explain yourself to friends of the earth hippies. The rspca just dress like the po, use fake ranks and fake terms like caution to continue this drivel (that clearly works) that the public believe the rspca have some sort of special powers. They find evidence to either pass to the police (the same as I could) or try a bring a civil case (the same as I could).
The others are a bit different. They’re real. I wouldn’t refuse an interview with the dvsa, theyre not the rspca . Besides you want to get to the bottom of this drivel about missing miles. Take, legal advice and a solicitor if you can and go along.
Fail to turn up to an interview with them and you’ll be getting a summons to court however real you think they are or not.
Rowley010:
James the cat:
Rowley010:
OVLOV JAY:
The problem I have with the under caution bit, is the dvsa are a private enterprise, and not a public body. There’s a whole other argument around objective enforcement that needs looking at too. What next? Bailiffs or heaven forbid, gatehouse hitlers being able to ask you questions under caution? Nanny state tactics
British transport police are a private police force yet still have full powers to do everything.
The civil nuclear constabulary again are private.
RSPCA are a charity yet can interview under caution.
I’m sure there’s more. Point being the fact DVSA are private doesn’t matter one little bit. They’ve still been given authority to act in the capacity in which they do, which includes conducting interviews under caution and taking people or companies to court.
So by saying I’m not going to attend because they are a private Micky mouse organisation with no actual authority to do anything will be a mistake, as they do have some authority. Don’t like that then start a protest and petition and get the law changed. Until then, I’d advise you to attend if you don’t want to make whatever it is worse.
Not this old one
RSPCA are a “charriddy mate” and get they all serious using the words of a caution but it’s not a caution. I could interview you the same if you knocked my fence over in a reliant robin and I wanted to make a claim. Means nothing, just mouth music. You dont have to be interviewed by rscpa any more than turning up to explain yourself to friends of the earth hippies. The rspca just dress like the po, use fake ranks and fake terms like caution to continue this drivel (that clearly works) that the public believe the rspca have some sort of special powers. They find evidence to either pass to the police (the same as I could) or try a bring a civil case (the same as I could).
The others are a bit different. They’re real. I wouldn’t refuse an interview with the dvsa, theyre not the rspca . Besides you want to get to the bottom of this drivel about missing miles. Take, legal advice and a solicitor if you can and go along.
Fail to turn up to an interview with them and you’ll be getting a summons to court however real you think they are or not.
Er, it’s a summons as a result of a private prosecution RSPCAs solicitors bring. I could do exactly the same and take you to court and you’d have a summons. Granted the court but is real but that’s just the court, let’s not start dressing up the rspca as having any more statutory powers than me. Repeat, you don’t turn up to my interview, I could try and take you to court and you’d have a summons. They are a charity. How many more times. Just because they wear fisher price police outfits an “agency” them does not make. They have no statuatory powers.
From non other than the CPS’ website no less
“There are a number of organisations that regularly prosecute cases before the courts of England and Wales but they do so as private individuals, using the right of any individual to bring a private prosecution. One example is the RSPCA…”
James the cat:
Rowley010:
James the cat:
Not this old one
RSPCA are a “charriddy mate” and get they all serious using the words of a caution but it’s not a caution. I could interview you the same if you knocked my fence over in a reliant robin and I wanted to make a claim. Means nothing, just mouth music. You dont have to be interviewed by rscpa any more than turning up to explain yourself to friends of the earth hippies. The rspca just dress like the po, use fake ranks and fake terms like caution to continue this drivel (that clearly works) that the public believe the rspca have some sort of special powers. They find evidence to either pass to the police (the same as I could) or try a bring a civil case (the same as I could).
The others are a bit different. They’re real. I wouldn’t refuse an interview with the dvsa, theyre not the rspca . Besides you want to get to the bottom of this drivel about missing miles. Take, legal advice and a solicitor if you can and go along.
Fail to turn up to an interview with them and you’ll be getting a summons to court however real you think they are or not.
Er, it’s a summons as a result of a private prosecution RSPCAs solicitors bring. I could do exactly the same and take you to court and you’d have a summons. Granted the court but is real but that’s just the court, let’s not start dressing up the rspca as having any more statutory powers than me. Repeat, you don’t turn up to my interview, I could try and take you to court and you’d have a summons. They are a charity. How many more times. Just because they wear fisher price police outfits an “agency” them does not make. They have no statuatory powers.
From non other than the CPS’ website no less
“There are a number of organisations that regularly prosecute cases before the courts of England and Wales but they do so as private individuals, using the right of any individual to bring a private prosecution. One example is the RSPCA…”
You know what, you are actually proving my initial point here. Thanks!
We can argue all day how legit and worth while the rspca are but I think they do a good job, and regardless of what round about way they do it they are able to prosecute for certain things, indeed like you can make a civil claim yourself. The difference is the rspca are trained in some legislation and trained to interview, and are able to go and use police interview rooms, so they can some of it themselves. Whereas you’d be getting others to do all of it for a civil matter.
My initial point was with regard to people saying don’t attend the DVSA interview because they at private blah blah blah. Your proving my point that regardless of being public, private, charity or whatever then you still need to go other wise it will get worse, i.e. A summons redlardless or whether they are able to issue it or whether they get someone else to is irrelevant. The fact it is it will happen if you don’t attend.
Rowley010:
James the cat:
Rowley010:
James the cat:
Not this old one
RSPCA are a “charriddy mate” and get they all serious using the words of a caution but it’s not a caution. I could interview you the same if you knocked my fence over in a reliant robin and I wanted to make a claim. Means nothing, just mouth music. You dont have to be interviewed by rscpa any more than turning up to explain yourself to friends of the earth hippies. The rspca just dress like the po, use fake ranks and fake terms like caution to continue this drivel (that clearly works) that the public believe the rspca have some sort of special powers. They find evidence to either pass to the police (the same as I could) or try a bring a civil case (the same as I could).
The others are a bit different. They’re real. I wouldn’t refuse an interview with the dvsa, theyre not the rspca . Besides you want to get to the bottom of this drivel about missing miles. Take, legal advice and a solicitor if you can and go along.
Fail to turn up to an interview with them and you’ll be getting a summons to court however real you think they are or not.
Er, it’s a summons as a result of a private prosecution RSPCAs solicitors bring. I could do exactly the same and take you to court and you’d have a summons. Granted the court but is real but that’s just the court, let’s not start dressing up the rspca as having any more statutory powers than me. Repeat, you don’t turn up to my interview, I could try and take you to court and you’d have a summons. They are a charity. How many more times. Just because they wear fisher price police outfits an “agency” them does not make. They have no statuatory powers.
From non other than the CPS’ website no less
“There are a number of organisations that regularly prosecute cases before the courts of England and Wales but they do so as private individuals, using the right of any individual to bring a private prosecution. One example is the RSPCA…”
You know what, you are actually proving my initial point here. Thanks!
We can argue all day how legit and worth while the rspca are but I think they do a good job, and regardless of what round about way they do it they are able to prosecute for certain things, indeed like you can make a civil claim yourself. The difference is the rspca are trained in some legislation and trained to interview, and are able to go and use police interview rooms, so they can some of it themselves. Whereas you’d be getting others to do all of it for a civil matter.
My initial point was with regard to people saying don’t attend the DVSA interview because they at private blah blah blah. Your proving my point that regardless of being public, private, charity or whatever then you still need to go other wise it will get worse, i.e. A summons redlardless or whether they are able to issue it or whether they get someone else to is irrelevant. The fact it is it will happen if you don’t attend.
I’m not sure where you had this notion I was attempting to disprove your point. I already said he should take legal advice and attend. I was making my own point when you bandied the rspca amongst a list of agencies who “can interview under caution”. That’s rubbish and insinuates the rspca have been awarded powers. The RSPCA are unlike all those agencies you mention so why did you include them?. They are a charity. You could have added “the snail society”. They have the same right to interview as the rspca
As for training. Training to interview by whom? Themselves. Micky mouse, means nothing. To mention training again insinuates this perpetual idea they are an authority. Many charities and companies have “training”. It’s unofficial, unregulated , unqualified and unaccountable. They aren’t aren’t government by PACE. In fact one police chief constable has already banned them from using police facilities to do their private investigating.
The emotional sentiment of whether they do a good job as charity workers is not relevant to what I’m saying. I like charities doing “good work” but not under false pretences. They’ve been challenged before that they don’t have any powers. Their top blokes response was “er no, but I’d rather you didn’t print that”. Pretend copper types get up my nose. Everyone wants to police someone in this country.
You’re right though, we do agree the op shouldn’t ignore the interview. At least we agree on that
Fair enough. I was using them to make my point and probably wasn’t the best example.
