Sharp lad:
Im on 5 night trunks & he is the day driver on locals . He is smoking it on shift .
In my opinion if you do not report him and he does kill someone then you are just as bad, we are supposed to be professionals - can you imagine the national headlines if the worst happened, “truck driver kills family while high on drugs”!
Do the decent thing and report this person.
brados:
Sharp lad:
Im on 5 night trunks & he is the day driver on locals . He is smoking it on shift .In my opinion if you do not report him and he does kill someone then you are just as bad, we are supposed to be professionals - can you imagine the national headlines if the worst happened, “truck driver kills family while high on drugs”!
Do the decent thing and report this person.
Yes, think of the children. 
i think the guy needs reporting cos if you share the truck and you go to say canary wharf and places similar where they wipe steering wheel and do drug tests etc i wouldnt be very happy if a positive reading occured. id have a quiet word and if it doesnt work then i would report him.
Harry Monk:
brados:
Sharp lad:
Im on 5 night trunks & he is the day driver on locals . He is smoking it on shift .In my opinion if you do not report him and he does kill someone then you are just as bad, we are supposed to be professionals - can you imagine the national headlines if the worst happened, “truck driver kills family while high on drugs”!
Do the decent thing and report this person.
Yes, think of the children.
Thank you Harry
Maybe the TM is keeping quiet about it because he knows it’s for medicinal purposes and knows the guy is not long on this earth.
Dieing of cancer doesn’t automatically quality for sickness benefits and besides, maybe the guy wants to keep active in order to maximise his chances of staying above ground for longer.
Smoking pot isn’t as bad as some think. It certainly isn’t as strong as the politicians want us to think.
If he was driving around on LSD or something, then there’d be cause for bleating.
berewic:
Smoking pot isn’t as bad as some think.
Although I wouldn’t personally recommend smoking cannabis, I have smoked it in the dim and distant past and I would say “driving while tired” would be far, far more dangerous than driving after smoking cannabis, and there are plenty of drivers here who only get three or four hours sleep a night after they have had to drive home and back during their nine hours off as well as getting cleaned up and eating etc.
But there’s no chance of that nine hours being increased to a minimum of eleven hours because that would cost wealthy operators money and a wealthy operator’s sense of responsibility towards safety stops long before it affects the brass in his pocket.
My attitude towards reporting people to the Police is as follows. If I knew that somebody had committed a criminal offence which had already caused bodily harm- murder, ■■■■, kiddie-diddling etc then I would report it. I wouldn’t report somebody for committing a criminal offence which could theoretically lead to bodily harm being caused in the future because in my own personal moral code, that would make me a “grass” and that is a label I would not crave.
berewic:
Smoking pot isn’t as bad as some think.
I think you will find that ANY company that has a drug testing policy will strongly disagree with you, I know for a fact that Veolia have a strong testing policy, it is random and you are tested on the morning arriving for work with no notice of the test in advance, they also use hair testing if they suspect you are trying to cheat the test. This applies not only to drivers but all staff who work for Veolia, the penalty is severe if you rely on the job for a living. More and more companies are now using drug testing as well as breath testing for alcohol.
Before I finished work properly about 7 years ago I asked about a job with a big recycling company and was invited to an interview but I was also asked back then if I would mind being tested for drugs at the interview. I think it was just in it’s infancy then but testing is becoming more widespread.
poppiesfan:
i think the guy needs reporting cos if you share the truck and you go to say canary wharf and places similar where they wipe steering wheel and do drug tests etc i wouldnt be very happy if a positive reading occured. id have a quiet word and if it doesnt work then i would report him.
I would have to agree as i go to the Olympic stadium a lot so if they swiped the steering wheel I could get the blame which ain’t right. All about protecting my own A€€.
Not saying drugs are ok but It ain’t that bad of a drug if your not smoking it heavy. It’s like I have a friend who drives a tractor he snorts cocaine all day while up and down a field, it just keeps him awake, it don’t make you dangerous unless maybe you have too much.
Personally as stated before I would be more concerned about the sites where they drug test your truck
brados:
berewic:
Smoking pot isn’t as bad as some think.
I suspect Veolia’s testing policy is based more out of having new toys to play with than anything else.
When the police get this new testing equipment, they’ll have a testing blitz, pretty much the same as they did when it became compulsory to wear seat belts.
Pot shows up in urine tests for 28 days after the event so any that are smoking the stuff needs to think very carefully about which to give up, their driving career or the pot.
However, I stand by what I say, smoking pot isn’t as bad as those that haven’t smoked it think and can even improve some peoples driving ability by keeping them relaxed in stressful situations like.
Sharp lad:
The driver in question is in his 50s …
so hes 50,not quite mis-guided youth ,probally passed the stage of taking advice off of a lad[shap LAD],hes your mate you deal with it as you feel fit
Just found this…
Cannabis may make you a safer driver by Jonathon Carr-Brown, Sunday Times, 13 August 2000
TAKING the high road may not be so dangerous after all. Ministers are set to be embarrassed by government-funded research which shows that driving under the influence of drugs makes motorists more cautious and has a limited impact on their risk of crashing.
In the study, conducted by the Transport Research Laboratory, “grade A” cannabis specially imported from America was given to 15 regular users. The doped- up drivers were then put through four weeks of tests on driving simulators to gauge reaction times and awareness.
Regular smokers were used because previous tests in America using first- timers resulted in the volunteers falling over and feeling ill. The laboratory found its guinea pigs through what it described as a “■■■■■■■■■■■ technique” - one known user was asked to find another after being promised anonymity and exemption from prosecution agreed with the Home Office.
Instead of proving that drug-taking while driving increased the risk of accidents, researchers found that the mellowing effects of cannabis made drivers more cautious and so less likely to drive dangerously.
Although the cannabis affected reaction time in regular users, its effects appear to be substantially less dangerous than fatigue or drinking. Research by the Australian Drugs Foundation found that cannabis was the only drug tested that decreased the relative risk of having an accident.
The findings will embarrass ministers at the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions (DETR) who commissioned the study after pressure from motoring organisations and anti-drug campaigners. Lord Whitty, the transport minister, will receive the report later this month.
Last week police revealed details of new drug-driving tests to be administered by the roadside, which were received with some amusement. They require suspected drug- drivers to stand on one leg, lean back and touch their nose with their eyes closed, and to count to 30 silently with their eyes shut. This is apparently difficult for those on a drug trip.
However, if the findings are less than frightening on the effects of marijuana, they may convince ministers to put more money into raising driver awareness of fatigue. Tiredness is now blamed for causing 10% of all fatal accidents, compared with 6% for alcohol and 3% for drugs.
As I suspected, it does seem that driving while tired is more dangerous.
Dead easy this one,think of the potential harm he could cause to you or your family and decide at that point you dont need others opinions go with what you believe to be right.
with all due respect harry you can do a study to prove anything nowadays and most will have a contradictory one somewhere.
i don’t agree with tiredness being more dangerous than cannabis use. not with the sort of stuff available nowadays.
you should see some of the mongs round here. half a joint, and they’re [zb]ed. much more than just tired which an espresso will sort out. they don’t even feel it when you smack them in the head.
try hitting a pot head, then hit a tired person. see what happens. it’s in the interests of science, and road safety.
if the pthead pays your wages i would keep quiet if he doesnt report him drugs are illegal why risk your livelihood for someone who wants to do something illegal
Harry Monk:
Just found this…Cannabis may make you a safer driver by Jonathon Carr-Brown, Sunday Times, 13 August 2000
TAKING the high road may not be so dangerous after all. Ministers are set to be embarrassed by government-funded research which shows that driving under the influence of drugs makes motorists more cautious and has a limited impact on their risk of crashing.
In the study, conducted by the Transport Research Laboratory, “grade A” cannabis specially imported from America was given to 15 regular users. The doped- up drivers were then put through four weeks of tests on driving simulators to gauge reaction times and awareness.
Regular smokers were used because previous tests in America using first- timers resulted in the volunteers falling over and feeling ill. The laboratory found its guinea pigs through what it described as a “■■■■■■■■■■■ technique” - one known user was asked to find another after being promised anonymity and exemption from prosecution agreed with the Home Office.
Instead of proving that drug-taking while driving increased the risk of accidents, researchers found that the mellowing effects of cannabis made drivers more cautious and so less likely to drive dangerously.
Although the cannabis affected reaction time in regular users, its effects appear to be substantially less dangerous than fatigue or drinking. Research by the Australian Drugs Foundation found that cannabis was the only drug tested that decreased the relative risk of having an accident.
The findings will embarrass ministers at the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions (DETR) who commissioned the study after pressure from motoring organisations and anti-drug campaigners. Lord Whitty, the transport minister, will receive the report later this month.
Last week police revealed details of new drug-driving tests to be administered by the roadside, which were received with some amusement. They require suspected drug- drivers to stand on one leg, lean back and touch their nose with their eyes closed, and to count to 30 silently with their eyes shut. This is apparently difficult for those on a drug trip.
However, if the findings are less than frightening on the effects of marijuana, they may convince ministers to put more money into raising driver awareness of fatigue. Tiredness is now blamed for causing 10% of all fatal accidents, compared with 6% for alcohol and 3% for drugs.
As I suspected, it does seem that driving while tired is more dangerous.
Good luck if you try this as an excuse in front of the magistrate after being caught under the influence…
Another post that proves to anyone that cares to read it how stupid some truck drivers really are…
if you guys were off on your hols - would you feel happy if the pilots were sat in the cockpit smoking weed and/or/worse?
limeyphil:
i don’t agree with tiredness being more dangerous than cannabis use. not with the sort of stuff available nowadays.
you should see some of the mongs round here. half a joint, and they’re [zb]ed. much more than just tired which an espresso will sort out. they don’t even feel it when you smack them in the head.
try hitting a pot head, then hit a tired person. see what happens. it’s in the interests of science, and road safety.
No it won’t. The only known remedy for tiredness is sleep…
limeyphil:
i don’t agree with tiredness being more dangerous than cannabis use. not with the sort of stuff available nowadays.
That’s the Law of Unintended Consequences, UKBA got so good at detecting cannabis arriving at the ports, particularly when they got scanners, that production shifted into the UK and growers produce cannabis with far higher THC levels in industrial units and buried shipping containers. In fact, I read recently that UKBA are now searching far more outbound vehicles because the UK is now, for the first time ever, a net exporter of cannabis.
Truckulent:
limeyphil:
i don’t agree with tiredness being more dangerous than cannabis use. not with the sort of stuff available nowadays.
you should see some of the mongs round here. half a joint, and they’re [zb]ed. much more than just tired which an espresso will sort out. they don’t even feel it when you smack them in the head.
try hitting a pot head, then hit a tired person. see what happens. it’s in the interests of science, and road safety.No it won’t. The only known remedy for tiredness is sleep…
you’re probably right, caffeine is a temporary measure.
just trying to highlight the differences.
berewic:
[Pot shows up in urine tests for 28 days after the event so any that are smoking the stuff needs to think very carefully about which to give up, their driving career or the pot.
this is true,however just because you have traces of pot in your urine,it don`t mean your unfit to drive.