Driving without card in

Hi there this is my first post.

I was wondering if it was legal to take a lorry for inspection/service without a tacho card in. The reason I ask is I had ran out of driving time and I was told to take my card out and drive the truck the place where we take them.

Hope this makes sense
Thanks

fife-lad:
Hi there this is my first post.

I was wondering if it was legal to take a lorry for inspection/service without a tacho card in. The reason I ask is I had ran out of driving time and I was told to take my card out and drive the truck the place where we take them.

Hope this makes sense
Thanks

illegal

Who told you to do that ?
Was it just a sweeperupper or someone that should know better ?

How far away was the workshop and did you have to travel on public highway to get there?
We can access our workshops without going on the roads so don’t use cards in the yard.
Guessing that’s not the case with you so what you did is illegal.

It was my transport manager. It’s about a 20 min drive. I never done it.

yeah it’s illegal and you and the company will be royally ■■■■■■ for it if caught

ILLEGAL sack the TM he`s obviously a pr@

Cheers guys. I knew I was right. I just wanted to know for sure.

fife-lad:
Cheers guys. I knew I was right. I just wanted to know for sure.

Unfortunately, sometimes there is a decision one has to make following an instruction like this.
Risk it and run it in or tell the TM to do one and wait and see if a P45 follows :S

I know which path I’d take…

fife-lad:
It was my transport manager. It’s about a 20 min drive. I never done it.

ask him too put it in writing and sign and print his name

fife-lad:
Hi there this is my first post.

I was wondering if it was legal to take a lorry for inspection/service without a tacho card in. The reason I ask is I had ran out of driving time and I was told to take my card out and drive the truck the place where we take them.

Hope this makes sense
Thanks

■■■■ take surely :frowning: :frowning:

He was being deadly serious. I never done it. I like to keep myself right.

He told you to do this? Geez. What a dork. How to hit the big time being caught on the road with no card. I worked at a firm who had a driver caught without a disk in. The beginning of a whole world of pain for that company.

Freight Dog:
The beginning of a whole world of pain for that company.

Green to red in one easy move…

Ah well I will just keep myself right. Thanks for the replies folks.

m1cks:
How far away was the workshop and did you have to travel on public highway to get there?
We can access our workshops without going on the roads so don’t use cards in the yard.
Guessing that’s not the case with you so what you did is illegal.

so is driving in the yard without a card. “Out of scope driving” was done away with when the regulations changed in 2008

so is driving in the yard without a card.

:open_mouth:

Really? I often drive into the yard at the end of the shift, and “my spot” has something in it. A yard gremlin will move it in at his leisure when said something has been moved.

Since the truck is off the public highway, and is a separate journey, it doesn’t need a card in and the mileage need not be recorded. We don’t do any euro work, before someone pipes up that EuroVostapo want to see every kilometre accounted for. Or is this wrong??

F-reds:

so is driving in the yard without a card.

:open_mouth:

Really? I often drive into the yard at the end of the shift, and “my spot” has something in it. A yard gremlin will move it in at his leisure when said something has been moved.

Since the truck is off the public highway, and is a separate journey, it doesn’t need a card in and the mileage need not be recorded. We don’t do any euro work, before someone pipes up that EuroVostapo want to see every kilometre accounted for. Or is this wrong??

If the yard gremlin isn’t a regular road driver, then it isn’t a problem. However, if he use a card to record any driving he should record the bits in the yard too. Nobody, in reality, does this and nobody really minds. The rules were changed to stop people running around the yard in the morning, picking up trailers, fueling up etc, without a card, and to stop tipper men from pulling the cards whilst in quarrys.

If he wanted you to drive without the card in you should have tossed him the keys and said “if it’s legal, you take it”!

I’ve been asked to do this plenty times over the years, from “just stick another chart in, it’ll be fine to " just pull your card, it’s not that far”. I find you can usually tell from the first day as they tend to say things like " we don’t run bent mind". Never done it yet and I never will.