Driving the Denby Roadtrain

Denis F:

dieseldave:

montana man:
]re Denis, we usually just prod him with a stick every now and then in a kind of Father Jack style of waking :wink:

:arrow_right: A pointed stick?? :wink:

Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh?

RIGHT, come at me with that banana :wink: (Not the bunch of loganberries, cos we did that last week :exclamation: ) :wink:

I went to Sweden to interview An Elk, because she had a theory…

2 things.

  1. Why no video? I’d have thought with something as potentially interesting to drivers as this, you’d have set up a company youtube account and put a video report on - particularly of the reversing bit! Denby’s should have been keen on that, to show how wonderful and super duper it is etc etc.

  2. I can’t see it being much use in a DC to DC use since many DCs are bay-tip only now, and having a set-up that means you need a special bit to stop, drop, drop another bit, pick up the conventional trailer to put on a bay (since the whole combination would leave you blocking the yard or not enough space due to trailers on the back fence etc) and then drop and take the eco-trailer bit to an area for fork-lift curtain-tip in another bit then drop it in a holding bit again ready to pull the other bit off the bay when done, drop it behind the eco, couple up once then twice, and in one-side DCs no space to screw round… Not gonna work unless developing new DCs with these specifically in mind so it’s a chicken and egg problem. is it worth spending to develop and approve them when many places can’t handle them or provide for them, in the hope that new out-of-town sites will do so, in their returned hope that people will run them to make it worthwhile accommodating them?

Then there’s the problem of fuelling up on the road. Many sites just aint big enough to line it up for the pumps or to exit. Newbury A34/M4 services a good example. You would surely not be able to get off the pumps and round the building without taking out a pump, cos it’s so close? Hard enough with an artic, is another truck is on the other pump.

Some Pictures of B-trains…

el gordo 78:
2 things.

  1. Why no video? I’d have thought with something as potentially interesting to drivers as this, you’d have set up a company youtube account and put a video report on - particularly of the reversing bit! Denby’s should have been keen on that, to show how wonderful and super duper it is etc etc.

  2. I can’t see it being much use in a DC to DC use since many DCs are bay-tip only now, and having a set-up that means you need a special bit to stop, drop, drop another bit, pick up the conventional trailer to put on a bay (since the whole combination would leave you blocking the yard or not enough space due to trailers on the back fence etc) and then drop and take the eco-trailer bit to an area for fork-lift curtain-tip in another bit then drop it in a holding bit again ready to pull the other bit off the bay when done, drop it behind the eco, couple up once then twice, and in one-side DCs no space to screw round… Not gonna work unless developing new DCs with these specifically in mind so it’s a chicken and egg problem. is it worth spending to develop and approve them when many places can’t handle them or provide for them, in the hope that new out-of-town sites will do so, in their returned hope that people will run them to make it worthwhile accommodating them?

Then there’s the problem of fuelling up on the road. Many sites just aint big enough to line it up for the pumps or to exit. Newbury A34/M4 services a good example. You would surely not be able to get off the pumps and round the building without taking out a pump, cos it’s so close? Hard enough with an artic, is another truck is on the other pump.

As far as taking up space for shunting is concerned, yes it would be a bit of a problem, but there are many places in the world where this sort of operation is commonplace and companies adapt if the rewards are good enough. I visited many quite tight factories and RDCs in France where, admittedly 20’, doubles were delivering and they managed perfectly well with all the chopping and changing.
I doubt whether any of these outfits would need to refuel on the road, or if so only at suitably designated sites, as they would mainly be used for motorway trunking I would have thought. I’m not saying they couldn’t go further afield with planning but seriously doubt if they would be allowed to.