Can this be done?
Just from the parking lanes onto the ferry,I mean?
It’s not on the public highway,is it?
I’m not gonna be able to get from Leeds at 11am tomorrow to Dublin via a 10pm ferry within 15 hours unless I remove the card for a 9-hour break (ferry is 7 hours).
Is this legal?
No it’s not legal.
Leonard Hatred:
It’s not on the public highway,is it?
From EU 561/2006
Article 6
4. Daily and weekly driving times shall include all driving time on the territory of the Community or of a third country.
From VOSA guide
Note: Driving time includes any off-road parts of a journey where the rest of that journey is made on the public highway.
Leonard Hatred:
Can this be done?
Just from the parking lanes onto the ferry,I mean?
It’s not on the public highway,is it?I’m not gonna be able to get from Leeds at 11am tomorrow to Dublin via a 10pm ferry within 15 hours unless I remove the card for a 9-hour break (ferry is 7 hours).
Is this legal?
Removing the card doesn’t stop the machine recording the movement, either analogue or digital.
Leeds - Liverpool absolute max 4 hours. Go on daily rest 3pm - 2100 = 6 hours rest. board ferry using ferry mode, back on rest. arrive in Dublin and drive straight off ferry to customer with a fresh card
Leonard Hatred:
I’m not gonna be able to get from Leeds at 11am tomorrow to Dublin via a 10pm ferry within 15 hours unless I remove the card for a 9-hour break (ferry is 7 hours).
Looking like plan B 
Unless someone can see another way around this problem 
- ADD - Wheel Nut just did 
wheelnut is spot on. you will start your daily rest once you are at the docks. Once there you will put it on rest. If you have a digital card put it on ferry mode just BEFORE moving onto the ferry. In simple terms if you are stopped by police/vosa etc this is to show the reason for interupting your daily rest which you are legally allowed to do to board a ferry but your only allowed to interupt an 11hr break not a 9hr. You must have an uninterupted 9hrs without having to make it up on the dockside on the other side which you wouldnt be able to do on a 7hr crossing. If you need to make up your break once disembarking remember to again select BEFORE disembarking. if I have got any of this wrong im sure i will be corrected but havent had any ferry movement or break infringements yet when downloading my card.
scaniav8power:
wheelnut is spot on. you will start your daily rest once you are at the docks. Once there you will put it on rest. If you have a digital card put it on ferry mode just BEFORE moving onto the ferry.
And then switch the mode back to rest once on board. You must also have 11 hours rest plus the one or two interruptions, not 11 hours including them.
Wheel Nut’s take on the situation is spot on.
…so I should actually take the card out at the docks then?
Leonard Hatred:
…so I should actually take the card out at the docks then?
do you have a paper disc or a digicard?
you shouldn’t take either out though as you need to show the movements on and off the ferry
but with a digi you can input ferry mode on the menu as described above
Yeah but I’m at the docks NOW,ferry is at 22.00.
Should I take the card out now,put it back in at about 21.45 and put it on ferry mode?
Leonard Hatred:
Yeah but I’m at the docks NOW,ferry is at 22.00.Should I take the card out now,put it back in at about 21.45 and put it on ferry mode?
Leave the card in Chap, all movements must be recorded digi or paper card.
Fly sheet
if its a digicard why would you take it out anyway?
you just book off at the end of your shift and then next day book on unless you’re changing trucks or somebody else is going to drive leave it in
I’ve never done a ferry or used a digi but I’ve got what the crack is here
From your first post it seems you started about 11am today and have reached ferry about 5 pm so that’s 6 hours done
Put tacho onto rest now anf if digi switch to ferry mode when you move truck to board
once on board put mode on rest again
I think you said it was a 7 hour crossing so provided you have access to suitable sleeping place then that counts as rest
when moving off ferry put onto ferry mode
Once off the ferry you can then start a new shift as you have had at least 11 hours of rest
What I don’t know is at what point the end of shift and start of shift inputs have to be done if on digi
If on analogue then make manual explanations of ferry movements and put in new analogue card at start of shift
I think I got all that correct
Yeah but the crux of this thread is that I’m trying to avoid exceeding 15 hours working time.
Here’s a step by step guide for you
1, park up and select end country uk
2, put tacho on break, but don’t take card out
3, when your ready to board select ferry mode
4, drive onto ferry
5, DON’T FORGET to put it back on rest
6, if you have had 11 hours by the time you dock just select start country and drive off and on your way.
7, if you haven’t had your 11 plus movements, then select ferry mode again before you move truck.
8, drive off and then put it back on break.
9, when you have had 11 plus movements select start country and away you go.
Leonard Hatred:
Yeah but the crux of this thread is that I’m trying to avoid exceeding 15 hours working time.
You are nowhere near 15 hours. As soon as you book off in dock then you are on your daily rest.
Reading other posts you have only worked a few hours so no problem with 15 hour shifts
Right.
Cheers everyone.
Hopefully it makes sense now. Just remember your 11 starts as soon as you have booked off 
I’ve never done a ferry or used a digi but I’ve got what the crack is here
ROG:
I’ve never done a ferry or used a digi but I’ve got what the crack is hereFrom your first post it seems you started about 11am today and have reached ferry about 5 pm so that’s 6 hours done
Put tacho onto rest now anf if digi switch to ferry mode when you move truck to board
once on board put mode on rest again
I think you said it was a 7 hour crossing so provided you have access to suitable sleeping place then that counts as rest
when moving off ferry put onto ferry mode
Why?
ROG:
Once off the ferry you can then start a new shift as you have had at least 11 hours of rest
Why does he need to wait until he is off the ferry to start his new shift? You’ve already said he has had his 11 hours required rest before the ferry docks.
ROG:
What I don’t know is at what point the end of shift and start of shift inputs have to be done if on digi
Same point as they are done for any shift obviously. When you start your daily rest and when you finish it. 
In the OP’s case he would end his shift when he puts the tacho on Rest in the docks in Liverpool, or wherever he is sailing from, and selects end country as UK. Before he drives off the ferry in the morning he will begin his new shift by changing mode and entering begin country as IRL.