So you begin turning a corner at low speed and hit black ice. You’re heading towards a collision with the kerb. Do you hit the abs or accelerator and try and power out of the skid?
Impossible to answer, every situation is different
If it’s a truck either option could get ‘interesting’ if it’s an artic.
If it’s a car it depends on wether it’s front wheel drive or rear wheel drive.In the case of front wheel drive using power would probably cause it to lose traction which means no steering at all and it’ll then understeer off the road which is the main advantage of rear drive in that loss of traction doesn’t mean total loss of steering.
coreysboys:
So you begin turning a corner at low speed and hit black ice. You’re heading towards a collision with the kerb. Do you hit the abs or accelerator and try and power out of the skid?
I don’t do black ice.
I refuse to drive if I suspect black ice.
I care not what they think - I am not paid to be a hero.
“Boss it’s minus 4 and I’m pulling over.”
Sack me - Sue you.
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Carryfast:
If it’s front wheel drive it won’t ‘power out’ of anything.It’ll probably just lose traction then all steering input and understeer off the road.Which is the main advantage of rear wheel drive in zb weather because if it loses traction it’s still possible to steer it.
Didn’t know you could get front wheel drive lorries
If your on about a car then hand brake it round the corner HTH
Foxstein:
Carryfast:
If it’s front wheel drive it won’t ‘power out’ of anything.It’ll probably just lose traction then all steering input and understeer off the road.Which is the main advantage of rear wheel drive in zb weather because if it loses traction it’s still possible to steer it.Didn’t know you could get front wheel drive lorries
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Powering out of a slide requires some traction, that aint happening on ice.
If i was getting no steering and kerd impact was iminent, power off and align steering for minimal damage.
Big differance between slippery surface and ice.
With black ice you’re a passenger and nowt you can do is going to affect the outcome.
When I saw the title of this thread I thought ‘not another BBC Saturday Night TV Show’!
Conor:
With black ice you’re a passenger and nowt you can do is going to affect the outcome.
it is evil.
driving along, thinking, ooo, is my clutch on the way out. nope. black ice
Depends on what your driving, in my car I keep my left hand on or near the handbrake in bad conditions. On the bike I try to avoid street furniture.
Thanks all.
To clarify I was in my front wheel drive car returning from the school run with my little un in the passenger seat.
Typical newish housing estate with semi main trunk road through the estate and lots of little cul-de-sacs off it.
Turning into my cul-de-sac I lost traction and was heading toward the kerb and a signpost. Instinctively hit the anchors with no effect other than the abs grinding. I was conscious of the potential for ice as the roads are unadopted and untreated so I was going slow enough for the kerb to stop the car with a bit of a scratch on my nearside alloy, but it got me wondering if I may have got out of it by hitting the gas in the hope of maybe forcing a bit of traction with the wheel spin melting the ice a bit and biting the road somehow.
Was expecting a flat tyre when I got back to my car this afternoon but fortunately its still inflated.
far too many factors to give a single definitive answer.
if the front wheels are sliding, then you should be able to give it a little power to get out of it. but if your heavy and your trailer wheels havn’t got near the ice, then the trailer brakes could sort the job out.
i’ve seen a lot of people on ice, mud, and basically anything slippy make one major mistake, and that’s giving it full lock, it does you no favours whatsoever.
the best advise is to take it easy, don’t over accelerate, and don’t be heavy on the brakes.
In a car, I would straighten wheels and take feet off all pedals. Hitting the kerb while braking will hurt. Let the engine slow you till your wheel gets on the kerb then brake.
Clunk:
In a car, I would straighten wheels and take feet off all pedals. Hitting the kerb while braking will hurt. Let the engine slow you till your wheel gets on the kerb then brake.
Is the correct answer.
Remove the cause ie accelerator or brake and steer into the direction of the skid.
Carryfast:
If it’s a truck either option could get ‘interesting’ if it’s an artic.![]()
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If it’s a car it depends on wether it’s front wheel drive or rear wheel drive.In the case of front wheel drive using power would probably cause it to lose traction which means no steering at all and it’ll then understeer off the road which is the main advantage of rear drive in that loss of traction doesn’t mean total loss of steering.
power is your friend in front wheel drive
Let off the throttle, no harsh steering inputs and straighten the wheels abit more to try a regain abit of grip… Other than that isnt really anything you can do other than riding it out and being ready for when your off the ice, eg if your on full lock because you kept turning when you were on the ice when you leave it your still gonna go straight as theres a good chance your tyres wont grip.
franklin:
Just turn Left… like a boss…
nice gentle braking, and a little acceleration. almost a perfect manouver.