Driving a LHV through Central London

[groovy_greg]

Hi People.

Saw a Denby truck today and go me thinking about that LHV thing they tried and failed to road test further than the 1st roundabout out side the yard.

Say you were offerered a one off job to take one of those into London for multi drops in and around the city would you do it? even if it was just for a laugh and the experience. Where do you think you would hit problems? as i read it can steer just like a normal artic so guess you would just need a large swing at sone junctions?

Would you make it through the day without hitting anything, incurring any penatly fines or clocking up any traffic offences.

I would probably give it a go if i was due to retire the next day…

greg.

[wheel_nut]

groovy greg:
Hi People.

Saw a Denby truck today and go me thinking about that LHV thing they tried and failed to road test further than the 1st roundabout out side the yard.

Say you were offerered a one off job to take one of those into London for multi drops in and around the city would you do it? even if it was just for a laugh and the experience. Where do you think you would hit problems? as i read it can steer just like a normal artic so guess you would just need a large swing at sone junctions?

Would you make it through the day without hitting anything, incurring any penatly fines or clocking up any traffic offences.

I would probably give it a go if i was due to retire the next day…

greg.

Apparently it follows quite well and shouldn’t be a problem in London where a normal artic would go, the argument for me isn’t the size, it is the fact that ■■■■ Denby & Carryfast want to put more drivers out of work with it

[ovlov_jay]

Denby never desgned it with that in mind. It’s solely aimed at the Trunking side of the industry, and maybe companies sitting next to major motorways who have 2 full loads for an rdc next to a motorway. These things would never be allowed off major roads. They’re being ■■■ ■■■’d now, but if the proposed eu wide height limit hits these shores, they’ll be a familiar site up and down the m1 of a night

[pavaroti]

Theres a good argument that says the LHV woud create work for drivers. ie more profitable especially for trunking and woud take work off the very costly heavily subsidised railways. Bring on the LHVs, bigger the better…

[carryfast]

Wheel Nut:

groovy greg:
Hi People.

Saw a Denby truck today and go me thinking about that LHV thing they tried and failed to road test further than the 1st roundabout out side the yard.

Say you were offerered a one off job to take one of those into London for multi drops in and around the city would you do it? even if it was just for a laugh and the experience. Where do you think you would hit problems? as i read it can steer just like a normal artic so guess you would just need a large swing at sone junctions?

Would you make it through the day without hitting anything, incurring any penatly fines or clocking up any traffic offences.

I would probably give it a go if i was due to retire the next day…

greg.

Apparently it follows quite well and shouldn’t be a problem in London where a normal artic would go, the argument for me isn’t the size, it is the fact that ■■■■ Denby & Carryfast want to put more drivers out of work with it

Be fair I’ve always said that b trains are for wussies who can’t drive a ‘proper’ roadtrain. It’s the Stan Robinson 80 tonner or a 75 tonner wagon and drag for me thanks and I hate London and I said only long distance international work to help us compete with all that uk-european rail freight that’s going through the tunnel and to take some work off the Poles etc…

[wheel_nut]

pavaroti:
Theres a good argument that says the LHV woud create work for drivers. ie more profitable especially for trunking and woud take work off the very costly heavily subsidised railways. Bring on the LHVs, bigger the better…

I dont follow, a 13.6 33 pallet trailer needs one driver, Tescos would want 48 pallets for the same price which normally would need two drivers. There isn’t much night trunking work done by trains as they are too inflexible and rigid in the timetables.

Don’t forget what ■■■■ Denby said in interview!

Two trucks can carry the load of three existing lorries, so that fewer vehicles need take to the road, he says.

[biscuits]

I’d imagine driving one in London during the day would leave you admiring a box junction for an hour or two whilst every car, cab and van fills the space you need the other side. I think it would do plenty of damage to road transport public relations. Look at how much people complain about bendy buses.

[carryfast]

Wheel Nut:

pavaroti:
Theres a good argument that says the LHV woud create work for drivers. ie more profitable especially for trunking and woud take work off the very costly heavily subsidised railways. Bring on the LHVs, bigger the better…

I dont follow, a 13.6 33 pallet trailer needs one driver, Tescos would want 48 pallets for the same price which normally would need two drivers. There isn’t much night trunking work done by trains as they are too inflexible and rigid in the timetables.

Don’t forget what ■■■■ Denby said in interview!

Two trucks can carry the load of three existing lorries, so that fewer vehicles need take to the road, he says.

Not if the comparison is two of his b doubles versus three 40 tonners .But I’d be up for putting a third trailer on the Stan Robinson outfit if I could have a decent tractor unit to pull them all with.That supercharged meteor on LPG or Detroit powered FTF would do the job nicely and that’s 3-0 to us versus the Poles. But the rail freight lot would probably put a price on my head first

[axletramp]

It might be a good thing to get all the freight back on the railways then all the divs at RDC’s could
collect their 26 pallets of broken groceries from the nearest railway goods yard using sack trucks.

Plenty of jobs would ensue, and there would be loads of paths in the timetables for goods trains
if the passenger trains were done away with. Less trucks on the road would make more room for
decent bus services and it would prevent people having to take jobs dozens of miles away from home.

This would have the added benefit of doing away with this “just in time” nonsense. And while we are
at it we could use proper steam trains like in the olden days and bring back station masters, porters
and turntables. Hic.

[carryfast]

axletramp:
It might be a good thing to get all the freight back on the railways then all the divs at RDC’s could
collect their 26 pallets of broken groceries from the nearest railway goods yard using sack trucks.

Plenty of jobs would ensue, and there would be loads of paths in the timetables for goods trains
if the passenger trains were done away with. Less trucks on the road would make more room for
decent bus services and it would prevent people having to take jobs dozens of miles away from home.

This would have the added benefit of doing away with this “just in time” nonsense. And while we are
at it we could use proper steam trains like in the olden days and bring back station masters, porters
and turntables. Hic.

There’s a flaw in your master plan in that if we’ve got steam trains running through the channel tunnel and through the alps it’s going to get a bit smoky after a while.Maybe if we give all footplate crews air breathing equipment that might satisfy elf and safety but I would’nt bet on it unless they’ve got lots of spare ones hanging in the cab.ZB double standards I call that when they tell me that I can’t run a clean running two stroke diesel through the Blanc or Frejus. But they’ve already tried that idea in a place called Russia and now they’re finding out that trucks and cars can do the job better than trains and buses.

[driveroneuk]

There is more freight being moved by rail at night than some of you seem to be aware of.

LHV’s are not intended to go into built up areas and the idea of taking one into central London is ridiculious.

In Australia, they have road train disassembly areas outside of towns and cities.

[axletramp]

There’s a flaw in your master plan in that if we’ve got steam trains running through the channel tunnel and through the alps it’s going to get a bit smoky after a while.Maybe if we give all footplate crews air breathing equipment that might satisfy elf and safety but I would’nt bet on it unless they’ve got lots of spare ones hanging in the cab.ZB double standards I call that when they tell me that I can’t run a clean running two stroke diesel through the Blanc or Frejus. But they’ve already tried that idea in a place called Russia and now they’re finding out that trucks and cars can do the job better than trains and buses.
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We wouldn’t be using the channel tunnel, things called “train ferries” would be reintroduced. These
would be built in UK, like a lot more things used to be and still could be if we unshackled ourselves
from the EU thus saving loads of taxpayers money which would be better spent on providing facilities
for some proper British industry like we used to have when I was a lad.

As regards Russia, Siberia could be the ideal place to send all our useless politicians and other parasites.

[driveroneuk]

axletramp:
We wouldn’t be using the channel tunnel, things called “train ferries” would be reintroduced. These
would be built in UK, like a lot more things used to be and still could be if we unshackled ourselves
from the EU thus saving loads of taxpayers money which would be better spent on providing facilities
for some proper British industry like we used to have when I was a lad.

As regards Russia, Siberia could be the ideal place to send all our useless politicians and other parasites.

Top post award!

[lycanthrope]

I don’t really see what the issue is why we can’t have these euro 60ton trucks, the european roads in Netherlands Belgium etc that use these are a lot smaller and tighter roundabouts and corners than we have over here and I doubt they have any problems. Gogzy was telling me he watched one going round a roundabout this week and it was “nipping round it faster that I was in my normal artic”.

I would jump at the chance to drive one of these. I would enjoy the challenge amd the experience. Hopefully one day we will get them on our roads.

[macplaxton]

Wheel Nut:
Don’t forget what ■■■■ Denby said in interview!

I haven’t. Was it “■■■■■■ in the woodpile” when speaking Jeremy Whine?

[limeyphil]

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you don’t even need to get out of your cab to check your lights. just go round in a circle.
how good is that?

[wheel_nut]

macplaxton:

Wheel Nut:
Don’t forget what ■■■■ Denby said in interview!

I haven’t. Was it “[zb] in the woodpile” when speaking Jeremy Whine?

Yup

[limeyphil]

it was “wiggerinthewoodpile”
after hearing it, i checked, and i couldn’t find one. my neighbour couldn’t either.
so, where does that saying come from anyway?

oh, sod it. i’ve tried everything to dodge that auto censor.

[wheel_nut]

limeyphil:
it was “wiggerinthewoodpile”
after hearing it, i checked, and i couldn’t find one. my neighbour couldn’t either.
so, where does that saying come from anyway?

oh, sod it. i’ve tried everything to dodge that auto censor.

WC Fields got away with it in 1940, and it is probably worse my little chickadee

“Hmm. There’s an Ethiopian in the fuel supply.”

[carryfast]

limeyphil:

you don’t even need to get out of your cab to check your lights. just go round in a circle.
how good is that?
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Forget the Detroit and the supercharged Meteor on LPG in that case it’ll need a Griffon running on LPG. Luckily there’s more of them than Meteors/Merlins so it’s job sorted 2-0 to us v the Poles and 2-0 us v the rail freight lot so far.