Have I got this right?..
I’m a regular class 1/2 driver using tachographs. And I’d like to move something of my own during my weekly rest using a 7.5t.
So I searched the internet and found this…
Exemptions from EU law . . . non-commercial vehicles under 7.5 tonnes - for example a person moving house or goods carried by a non-profit making group or registered charity
So I think this means I can drive a private vehicle (similar to driving my car) and still be taking my weekly rest, providing I adhere to … Drivers' hours: GB domestic rules - GOV.UK which states I must keep a record. (Which would be written).
Can anyone correct me or show me links to a rule which I might be breaking?
dancompression:
Have I got this right?..
I’m a regular class 1/2 driver using tachographs. And I’d like to move something of my own during my weekly rest using a 7.5t.
So I searched the internet and found this…
Exemptions from EU law . . . non-commercial vehicles under 7.5 tonnes - for example a person moving house or goods carried by a non-profit making group or registered charity
So I think this means I can drive a private vehicle (similar to driving my car) and still be taking my weekly rest, providing I adhere to … Drivers' hours: GB domestic rules - GOV.UK which states I must keep a record. (Which would be written).
Can anyone correct me or show me links to a rule which I might be breaking?
I think you should understand that you cannot drive under domestic regulations during your weekly rest period because driving under domestic regulations is counted as “other work” for the EU regulations, and you cannot legally do other work during your weekly rest period.
However, you will not come under domestic regulations because you will not be driving as part of your employment nor as part of your trade or business.
Therefore as far as I’m aware, as long as you’re not being paid for the removal no records are necessary, though it wouldn’t hurt to keep a written record if you want to.
If you intend to drive the 7.5t for private use during your weekly rest period I would say that you should NOT use your driver card, as it will look like you’ve been working in your weekly rest period and could result in you getting a fixed penalty or even possibly parked up if you get stopped by VOSA.
tachograph:
If you intend to drive the 7.5t for private use during your weekly rest period I would say that you should NOT use your driver card, as it will look like you’ve been working in your weekly rest period and could result in you getting a fixed penalty or even possibly parked up if you get stopped by VOSA.
I agree unless its the works 7.5 in which case the employer might insist on records but that is probably more with analogue than digital because the digi unit will have them
dancompression:
Have I got this right?..
I’m a regular class 1/2 driver using tachographs. And I’d like to move something of my own during my weekly rest using a 7.5t.
So I searched the internet and found this…
Exemptions from EU law . . . non-commercial vehicles under 7.5 tonnes - for example a person moving house or goods carried by a non-profit making group or registered charity
So I think this means I can drive a private vehicle (similar to driving my car) and still be taking my weekly rest, providing I adhere to … Drivers' hours: GB domestic rules - GOV.UK which states I must keep a record. (Which would be written).
Can anyone correct me or show me links to a rule which I might be breaking?
Looking at your post you said a 7.5 ton you would like to use but if you look at you link its only excempt for under 7.5 ton.
When I borrowed a 7.5 ton from my work for moving house, the boss said to use a tacho for their records, but to write ‘personal use/non paid’ on the back.
When I was stopped by VOSA a couple of weeks after, the guy asked me about it. I told him I used the wagon to move house, and that I was unpaid and re-filled the wagon with diesel out of my own pocket.
He just said ‘That’s fine.’
8250kg will have been train weight (7.5t + 750kg unbraked trailer max combination on a c1 licence) so ok.
If it’s an 18t horsebox or race transporter driven privately, for example, and you worked a regular non-driving job in the week you would still need to effectively pay the rest back elsewhere under the current absurd regulations the exemption only applies to sub 7.5t. Very hard for VOSA to enforce as if you aren’t a vocational driver you could just shred the tachos from the private weekend driving and you’re never really going to encounter them.
dancompression:
Have I got this right?..
I’m a regular class 1/2 driver using tachographs. And I’d like to move something of my own during my weekly rest using a 7.5t.
So I searched the internet and found this…
Exemptions from EU law . . . non-commercial vehicles under 7.5 tonnes - for example a person moving house or goods carried by a non-profit making group or registered charity
So I think this means I can drive a private vehicle (similar to driving my car) and still be taking my weekly rest, providing I adhere to … Drivers' hours: GB domestic rules - GOV.UK which states I must keep a record. (Which would be written).
Can anyone correct me or show me links to a rule which I might be breaking?
I don’t think you’ve got it right, i’m not sure i’d agree with what others have said either. If the vehicle you want to drive is a 7.5 tonner it probably comes under EU regs and has a tachograph fitted, so you will too (come under EU regs )if you drive it.
The current rules say EU regs apply to any vehicle over 3.5 tonne (used for the carriage of goods), wether it commercial use or private is irrelevant.
If the vehicle is under 7.5 tonne (i.e a 3.5 tonner, i think they actually registered just a smidge under 3.5 T) it probably won’t have a tacho graph fitted, in this case its not the vehicle thats in or out of scope of Domestic regs its the driver. If the driver is employed or using it commercially then he’s in scope of domestic regs. If he’s using it privatley then he’s not under domestic regs.
Mike-C:
The current rules say EU regs apply to any vehicle over 3.5 tonne (used for the carriage of goods), wether it commercial use or private is irrelevant.
That’s not correct.
There’s an exemption from the EU regulations for vehicles not exceeding 7.5t whilst they’re being used for none commercial carriage of goods, ie private use.