Drivers Unity - A pipe dream or possible reality?

There is about half a dozen posters on this topic, that do not like the idea of some form of unity, possibly those same ones that say sod you I am OK and then try to deter others from forming and uniting.

What is Trucknet UK Is it not a form of unity? It was started by one man and his determination to make it the best.

Started from nowhere and now known and respected as the best forum in the UK.

No doubt Rikki also had some hatred pointed at him, but he stuck to his aims and has now established this forum.

Rikki is now highly respected in the Industry and has a strong team of helpers to keep this forum growing

The PDU is starting out and has those that hate it, but just maybe it can do what this forum has done, unite drivers to tackle the issues. (look on here there are issues)

TN gets its money from advertising while PDU needs a subscription, both need a income to offer drivers something.

If you do not like it do not join it, but why slag it off when it might just get some improvements.

Look at Carl Usher calling 99% of you thick ■■■■■, says a lot about him :smiling_imp:

No one is thick and can make their own mind up, but like me and others have a look, read what is said and stop listening to the few who think they are better than anyone else.

TN started from one and is now the best, maybe the pdu can also become the best to tackle those issues we all have.

Time will tell

I am in and so are some others, £25 is worth giving it a chance, it is a start but the more the merrier and just like TN as more join so it attracts more.

Have a good weekend all

Carl Usher:

dri-diddly-iver:
joeyd :laughing: :laughing: you couldn’t make it up could you :wink:

I:
As both you and “eezeer” vehemently deny being Barrie’s aliases, if he is so passionate about all this then why isn’t he posting here himself?

As you appear to be avoiding answering this seemingly awkward question…

It has been answered 20 odd times just on here

So you accuse 99% of drivers on here of being thick ■■■■■ :smiling_imp:

I wonder who is actually the thick ■■■■■ :unamused:

I am not Barrie

I just support what he is trying to do.

eezeer:

Carl Usher:

dri-diddly-iver:
joeyd :laughing: :laughing: you couldn’t make it up could you :wink:

I:
As both you and “eezeer” vehemently deny being Barrie’s aliases, if he is so passionate about all this then why isn’t he posting here himself?

As you appear to be avoiding answering this seemingly awkward question…

It has been answered 20 odd times just on here

So you accuse 99% of drivers on here of being thick [zb] :smiling_imp:

I wonder who is actually the thick [zb]. :unamused:

I am not Barrie

I just support what he is trying to do.

For the third time : As both you and “eezeer” vehemently deny being Barrie’s aliases, if he is so passionate about all this then why isn’t he posting here himself?

Answer the question. You and “eezeer” are his henchmen, so why is that and why is he not here posting himself? Clearly not that passionate about it really then is he? No wonder, because he doesn’t want his retirement scam rumbling. :bulb: :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

eezeer:
There is about half a dozen posters on this topic, that do not like the idea of some form of unity, possibly those same ones that say sod you I am OK and then try to deter others from forming and uniting.

What is Trucknet UK Is it not a form of unity? It was started by one man and his determination to make it the best.
Started from nowhere and now known and respected as the best forum in the UK.
No doubt Rikki also had some hatred pointed at him, but he stuck to his aims and has now established this forum.
Rikki is now highly respected in the Industry and has a strong team of helpers to keep this forum growing

The PDU is starting out and has those that hate it, but just maybe it can do what this forum has done, unite drivers to tackle the issues. (look on here there are issues)

TN gets its money from advertising while PDU needs a subscription, both need a income to offer drivers something.

If you do not like it do not join it, but why slag it off when it might just get some improvements.

Look at Carl Usher calling 99% of you thick [zb], says a lot about him :smiling_imp:

No one is thick and can make their own mind up, but like me and others have a look, read what is said and stop listening to the few who think they are better than anyone else.

TN started from one and is now the best, maybe the pdu can also become the best to tackle those issues we all have.

Time will tell

I am in and so are some others, £25 is worth giving it a chance, it is a start but the more the merrier and just like TN as more join so it attracts more.

Have a good weekend all

Rikki didn’t go around spamming his website on truckersworld though, did he! You seem to think it’s acceptable to spam your fruitless cause here and act as his henchmen which is both rude and disrespectful to Rikki. Have you even asked and received his permission for your endless spam here?

Carl Usher:

eezeer:

Carl Usher:

dri-diddly-iver:
joeyd :laughing: :laughing: you couldn’t make it up could you :wink:

I:
As both you and “eezeer” vehemently deny being Barrie’s aliases, if he is so passionate about all this then why isn’t he posting here himself?

As you appear to be avoiding answering this seemingly awkward question…

It has been answered 20 odd times just on here

So you accuse 99% of drivers on here of being thick [zb] :smiling_imp:

I wonder who is actually the thick [zb]. :unamused:

I am not Barrie

I just support what he is trying to do.

For the third time : As both you and “eezeer” vehemently deny being Barrie’s aliases, if he is so passionate about all this then why isn’t he posting here himself?

Answer the question. You and “eezeer” are his henchmen, so why is that and why is he not here posting himself? Clearly not that passionate about it really then is he? No wonder, because he doesn’t want his retirement scam rumbling. :bulb: :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

Why ask us?

Ask him yourself on FB?

There might be good reason, I dont know. is he on here?

Maybe you are actually one of those 99% of drivers you accuse that are thick ■■■■■ who do not know how to ask him the question,
or prefer not to so as to slag him off

Carl Usher:

eezeer:
There is about half a dozen posters on this topic, that do not like the idea of some form of unity, possibly those same ones that say sod you I am OK and then try to deter others from forming and uniting.

What is Trucknet UK Is it not a form of unity? It was started by one man and his determination to make it the best.
Started from nowhere and now known and respected as the best forum in the UK.
No doubt Rikki also had some hatred pointed at him, but he stuck to his aims and has now established this forum.
Rikki is now highly respected in the Industry and has a strong team of helpers to keep this forum growing

The PDU is starting out and has those that hate it, but just maybe it can do what this forum has done, unite drivers to tackle the issues. (look on here there are issues)

TN gets its money from advertising while PDU needs a subscription, both need a income to offer drivers something.

If you do not like it do not join it, but why slag it off when it might just get some improvements.

Look at Carl Usher calling 99% of you thick [zb], says a lot about him :smiling_imp:

No one is thick and can make their own mind up, but like me and others have a look, read what is said and stop listening to the few who think they are better than anyone else.

TN started from one and is now the best, maybe the pdu can also become the best to tackle those issues we all have.

Time will tell

I am in and so are some others, £25 is worth giving it a chance, it is a start but the more the merrier and just like TN as more join so it attracts more.

Have a good weekend all

Rikki didn’t go around spamming his website on truckersworld though, did he! You seem to think it’s acceptable to spam your fruitless cause here and act as his henchmen which is both rude and disrespectful to Rikki. Have you even asked and received his permission for your endless spam here?

I think you are far more disrespectful by calling 99% of Drivers thick ■■■■■ :smiling_imp:

No doubt Rikki and his Admin are watching this and it does not help by you changing the topic for your own hate of unity and trying to deter others.

BACK TO TOPIC

I could, but I’d only charge £5 for a sticker and yearly membership of a pipe dream.
Course every member would have a chance to create a sweet residual income and by recruiting others they would receive £3 of the yearly subs from that member.
They will also receive £1 yearly subs from every member their new member recruits.

So get in at ground level guys the opportunity to get rich and be a member of the new DDC (Dippers Drivers Club) is to good to miss.

When we have enough members I will do petitions and stuff but let’s not worry about the boring stuff for now.

Course although this club is for drivers theres nothing to stop non drivers joining even friends and family who want a sweet yearly income.

So join up, recruit a few friends, get rich and together we can make a difference. Reach for the stars guys and get in early for the opportunity to be a member of the best club on earth.

Remember membership begins with ‘me’.

Dipper_Dave:
I could, but I’d only charge £5 for a sticker and yearly membership of a pipe dream.
Course every member would have a chance to create a sweet residual income and by recruiting others they would receive £3 of the yearly subs from that member.
They will also receive £1 yearly subs from every member their new member recruits.

So get in at ground level guys the opportunity to get rich and be a member of the new DDC (Dippers Drivers Club) is to good to miss.

When we have enough members I will do petitions and stuff but let’s not worry about the boring stuff for now.

Course although this club is for drivers theres nothing to stop non drivers joining even friends and family who want a sweet yearly income.

So join up, recruit a few friends, get rich and together we can make a difference. Reach for the stars guys and get in early for the opportunity to be a member of the best club on earth.

Remember membership begins with ‘me’.

Go for it :grimacing:

Or you might prefer something that has been presented with all the info, proper facts and a consitution, the issues to tackle, and how.

You need to look for yourself and then decide ( some will look while while others cannot read and prefer to slate it)

It is all on there to read :arrow_right:
http://www.pdu-uk.co.uk ( link put up by others so hope OK Admin)

I almost forgot the DDC also has exclusive access to my mates hedge fund where there will be an opportunity for members to invest and double your money in 90 days. But I’m still working out the finer points of this.

eezeer:
It is all on there to read :arrow_right:
http://www.pdu-uk.co.uk ( link put up by others so hope OK Admin)

Why not check with the forum admin first. Others can post the link as there is no financial gain for them. You however I have serious doubts about.

Course the DDC would never spam internet forums as its in the terms members agree to, which I’m yet to write obviously as I came up with it whilst on the crapper.

Hmmm PDU vs DDC.

One you lose money in the hopes of creating a better lot for drivers.

The other you make money year on year just for recruiting folk and not to mention the secret hedge fund bonus investment opportunity coming up. The DDC will also attempt to create a better lot for drivers if enough are bothered.

DDC created for members by members where membership begins with ‘Me’ not ‘U’.

The CEO of the RHA have agreed to a meeting with the PDU

They would have checked it out and would not give a meeting to something if they thought it was just a scam.

If an organisation of their reputation is considering it is worth talking to the PDU

then maybe it might be worth supporting it to tackle those issues we all have.

A couple of notes for clarification:

  1. I don’t believe Barrie is trying to scam. I do think that, along with previous schemes by Barrie and other groups, to unite drivers it will struggle to make any headway.
  2. We have in the past deleted campaigns from organisations like this that have not asked permission to post. We have been roundly criticised for this and even on occasion blamed/made the scapegoat for campaigns failing. On occasion this had lead to individuals and organisations making offensive comments regarding the admin team here and the websites owners, because of this We will not support any scheme that we have not done a thorough due diligence check on, that we dont feel have reasonable and achievable goals and whose interests dont coincide with us as a website and company.

The reason previous threads were not allowed is they always descended into name calling, bickering and a falling out between website and their members. This thread has been allowed to stay to see if the idea can be discussed in a civil manner If this thread descends into attacks and fighting between the website/group members it will also be deleted as it does neither website/group any favours. We do strongly suggest that the group has a facebook page and Truckersworld its own forum and encourage people to ask their questions there where more people may be available to give an answer.
3.TruckNet UK neither supports or wishes to deter people from getting involved in this idea. It is your choice to make. We only ask that discussion of it on here is kept civil, if it is not the discussion like any other will be deleted.
4. If multiple threads are made to simply spam the URL /discussion continue to be made all references to this group will be deleted. Spamming here is against the rules, please read them

Rikki-UK:
A couple of notes for clarification:

  1. I don’t believe Barrie is trying to scam. I do think that, along with previous schemes by Barrie and other groups, to unite drivers it will struggle to make any headway.
  2. We have in the past deleted campaigns from organisations like this that have not asked permission to post. We have been roundly criticised for this and even on occasion blamed/made the scapegoat for campaigns failing. On occasion this had lead to individuals and organisations making offensive comments regarding the admin team here and the websites owners, because of this We will not support any scheme that we have not done a thorough due diligence check on, that we dont feel have reasonable and achievable goals and whose interests dont coincide with us as a website and company.

The reason previous threads were not allowed is they always descended into name calling, bickering and a falling out between website and their members. This thread has been allowed to stay to see if the idea can be discussed in a civil manner If this thread descends into attacks and fighting between the website/group members it will also be deleted as it does neither website/group any favours. We do strongly suggest that the group has a facebook page and Truckersworld its own forum and encourage people to ask their questions there where more people may be available to give an answer.
3.TruckNet UK neither supports or wishes to deter people from getting involved in this idea. It is your choice to make. We only ask that discussion of it on here is kept civil, if it is not the discussion like any other will be deleted.
4. If multiple threads are made to simply spam the URL /discussioncontinue to be made all references to this group will be deleted. Spamming here is against the rules, please read them

My apology for putting up the link without your permission.

I have tried to be civil and only post what I think others need to look at for themselves.

Thank you for allowing the discussion.

Rikki-UK:
A couple of notes for clarification:

  1. I don’t believe Barrie is trying to scam. I do think that, along with previous schemes by Barrie and other groups, to unite drivers it will struggle to make any headway.
  2. We have in the past deleted campaigns from organisations like this that have not asked permission to post. We have been roundly criticised for this and even on occasion blamed/made the scapegoat for campaigns failing. On occasion this had lead to individuals and organisations making offensive comments regarding the admin team here and the websites owners, because of this We will not support any scheme that we have not done a thorough due diligence check on, that we dont feel have reasonable and achievable goals and whose interests dont coincide with us as a website and company.

The reason previous threads were not allowed is they always descended into name calling, bickering and a falling out between website and their members. This thread has been allowed to stay to see if the idea can be discussed in a civil manner If this thread descends into attacks and fighting between the website/group members it will also be deleted as it does neither website/group any favours. We do strongly suggest that the group has a facebook page and Truckersworld its own forum and encourage people to ask their questions there where more people may be available to give an answer.
3.TruckNet UK neither supports or wishes to deter people from getting involved in this idea. It is your choice to make. We only ask that discussion of it on here is kept civil, if it is not the discussion like any other will be deleted.
4. If multiple threads are made to simply spam the URL /discussion continue to be made all references to this group will be deleted. Spamming here is against the rules, please read them

All fair points, Rikki. However surely you can see that there is little interest in his latest “scheme” simply from the fact that he’s had to get his henchmen to spam the website URL in every post here because it’s failed to garner any interest on his own forum and various social media outlets. :bulb: Basically he is taking full advantage of your good nature to advertise his business for his financial gain. That wouldn’t sit well with most people…

As for it not being a scam - possibly not in the literal sense of the word, but if it were my £25 or £30 invested then I would be questioning why in the space of 12 months has he only managed to arrange a single meeting with the RHA, but perhaps more importantly : why the RHA? Any driver worth his salt knows that the RHA is the last place on earth you’d go to if you wanted help with your working conditions as they are firmly in bed with the haulage co and logistics operator owners whose primarily goal is to keep driver wages as low as they can get away with in order to maximise their profits. :bulb: :unamused:

Once again - drivers : not the brightest crayons in the box eh. :unamused:

dri-diddly-iver:

Themoocher:
I think your 30 or 40 years to late to be starting unions.

ffs it’s not a union, it’s unity. Sticking together to TRY and make a difference!!

Unity a fancy word for failed union last year?
As I said you are 30 or 40 years to late call it unite Union what ever Iv seen very strong unions in Scotland every member of work force in it.
There not worth a pot to ■■■■ in anymore.
They only one that seems be strong now is London Underground.
This is because they are all on the same pay and t&cs and fighting the same cause.

Trucking is totally different.
It’s like me I’m on a good number just now.
Decent pay and T&cs.
Iv got off my arse and looked for new job and worked up.

Carl Usher:

Rikki-UK:
A couple of notes for clarification:

  1. I don’t believe Barrie is trying to scam. I do think that, along with previous schemes by Barrie and other groups, to unite drivers it will struggle to make any headway.
  2. We have in the past deleted campaigns from organisations like this that have not asked permission to post. We have been roundly criticised for this and even on occasion blamed/made the scapegoat for campaigns failing. The reason they were not allowed is they always descended into name calling, bickering and a falling out between website and their members. This thread has been allowed to stay to see if the idea can be discussed in a civil manner If this thread descends attacks and fighting between the website/group members it will also be deleted as it does neither website/group any favours. We do strongly suggest that the group has a facebook page and Truckersworld its own forum and encourage people to ask their questions there where more people may be available to give an answer.
    3.TruckNet UK neither supports or wishes to deter people from getting involved in this idea. It is your choice to make. We only ask that discussion of it on here is kept civil, if it is not the discussion like any other will be deleted.

All fair points, Rikki. However surely you can see that there is little interest in his latest “scheme” simply from the fact that he’s had to get his henchmen to spam the website URL in every post here because it’s failed to garner any interest on his own forum and various social media outlets. :bulb: Basically he is taking full advantage of your good nature to advertise his business for his financial gain. That wouldn’t sit well with most people…

As for it not being a scam - possibly not in the literal sense of the word, but if it were my £25 or £30 invested then I would be questioning why in the space of 12 months has he only managed to arrange a single meeting with the RHA, but perhaps more importantly : why the RHA? Any driver worth his salt knows that the RHA is the last place on earth you’d go to if you wanted help with your working conditions as they are firmly in bed with the haulage co and logistics operator owners whose primarily goal is to keep driver wages as low as they can get away with in order to maximise their profits. :bulb: :unamused:

Once again - drivers : not the brightest crayons in the box eh. :unamused:

Unfortunately “Carl Usher” you open your mouth and post without looking or readin 1st

I did not open this topic, but am discussing like everyone else, and yes in support rather than slagging it of because Iwant to see some improvements.

You obviously have read nothing because it was not launched until the 11th December and not 12 months ago and so to obtain a meeting in the first month is not bad going.

You slag off the PDU and now slag of the RHA and also call 99% of Drivers thick ■■■■■.

The RHA are respected by the Industry and are a good starting point if the PDU wants to voice drivers issues to the Industry.

Sometimes things take time and only when drivers want unity can something actually be done., that is when support is needed.

You have made clear you slag anything and anyone so why not stop posting your evil opinion and let others decide for themselves.

Or Rikki will have to shut this down which may be your aim

Themoocher:

dri-diddly-iver:

Themoocher:
I think your 30 or 40 years to late to be starting unions.

ffs it’s not a union, it’s unity. Sticking together to TRY and make a difference!!

Unity a fancy word for failed union last year?
As I said you are 30 or 40 years to late call it unite Union what ever Iv seen very strong unions in Scotland every member of work force in it.
There not worth a pot to ■■■■ in anymore.
They only one that seems be strong now is London Underground.
This is because they are all on the same pay and t&cs and fighting the same cause.

Trucking is totally different.
It’s like me I’m on a good number just now.
Decent pay and T&cs.
Iv got off my arse and looked for new job and worked up.

Correct, because they unite as one and get listened to and now earn far more than any driver, as do many other professions that have united together to make things better

Unity can be strong in any form.

I have a good job and boss as well but only united can the unity help tackle the bigger issues.

eezeer:

Carl Usher:

Rikki-UK:
A couple of notes for clarification:

  1. I don’t believe Barrie is trying to scam. I do think that, along with previous schemes by Barrie and other groups, to unite drivers it will struggle to make any headway.
  2. We have in the past deleted campaigns from organisations like this that have not asked permission to post. We have been roundly criticised for this and even on occasion blamed/made the scapegoat for campaigns failing. The reason they were not allowed is they always descended into name calling, bickering and a falling out between website and their members. This thread has been allowed to stay to see if the idea can be discussed in a civil manner If this thread descends attacks and fighting between the website/group members it will also be deleted as it does neither website/group any favours. We do strongly suggest that the group has a facebook page and Truckersworld its own forum and encourage people to ask their questions there where more people may be available to give an answer.
    3.TruckNet UK neither supports or wishes to deter people from getting involved in this idea. It is your choice to make. We only ask that discussion of it on here is kept civil, if it is not the discussion like any other will be deleted.

All fair points, Rikki. However surely you can see that there is little interest in his latest “scheme” simply from the fact that he’s had to get his henchmen to spam the website URL in every post here because it’s failed to garner any interest on his own forum and various social media outlets. :bulb: Basically he is taking full advantage of your good nature to advertise his business for his financial gain. That wouldn’t sit well with most people…

As for it not being a scam - possibly not in the literal sense of the word, but if it were my £25 or £30 invested then I would be questioning why in the space of 12 months has he only managed to arrange a single meeting with the RHA, but perhaps more importantly : why the RHA? Any driver worth his salt knows that the RHA is the last place on earth you’d go to if you wanted help with your working conditions as they are firmly in bed with the haulage co and logistics operator owners whose primarily goal is to keep driver wages as low as they can get away with in order to maximise their profits. :bulb: :unamused:

Once again - drivers : not the brightest crayons in the box eh. :unamused:

Unfortunately “Carl Usher” you open your mouth and post without looking or readin 1st

I did not open this topic, but am discussing like everyone else, and yes in support rather than slagging it of because Iwant to see some improvements.

You obviously have read nothing because it was not launched until the 11th December and not 12 months ago and so to obtain a meeting in the first month is not bad going.

You slag off the PDU and now slag of the RHA and also call 99% of Drivers thick [zb].

The RHA are respected by the Industry and are a good starting point if the PDU wants to voice drivers issues to the Industry.

Sometimes things take time and only when drivers want unity can something actually be done., that is when support is needed.

You have made clear you slag anything and anyone so why not stop posting your evil opinion and let others decide for themselves.

Or Rikki will have to shut this down which may be your aim

xichrisxi posted proof on the previous page that what you are saying is a blatant lie. :exclamation:

And how much time do you want? 1 meeting agreement (note: no actual meeting) in 12 months is good performance in your opinion then? No, it’s pathetic. The only reason you (Barrie) want lots of time is so that you can maximise the income for your gravy train retirement ponzi scheme.

Yep this launched January 2015 with a £30 join up fee. Interest wasnt that great so perhaps a relaunch at £25 was deemed better.

A meeting with the CEO of the RHA is an interesting one though. If true it will be nice to hear how it goes. Hopefully the RHA will publish some information about the meeting on their website.

Carl Usher:

eezeer:

Carl Usher:

Rikki-UK:
A couple of notes for clarification:

  1. I don’t believe Barrie is trying to scam. I do think that, along with previous schemes by Barrie and other groups, to unite drivers it will struggle to make any headway.
  2. We have in the past deleted campaigns from organisations like this that have not asked permission to post. We have been roundly criticised for this and even on occasion blamed/made the scapegoat for campaigns failing. The reason they were not allowed is they always descended into name calling, bickering and a falling out between website and their members. This thread has been allowed to stay to see if the idea can be discussed in a civil manner If this thread descends attacks and fighting between the website/group members it will also be deleted as it does neither website/group any favours. We do strongly suggest that the group has a facebook page and Truckersworld its own forum and encourage people to ask their questions there where more people may be available to give an answer.
    3.TruckNet UK neither supports or wishes to deter people from getting involved in this idea. It is your choice to make. We only ask that discussion of it on here is kept civil, if it is not the discussion like any other will be deleted.

All fair points, Rikki. However surely you can see that there is little interest in his latest “scheme” simply from the fact that he’s had to get his henchmen to spam the website URL in every post here because it’s failed to garner any interest on his own forum and various social media outlets. :bulb: Basically he is taking full advantage of your good nature to advertise his business for his financial gain. That wouldn’t sit well with most people…

As for it not being a scam - possibly not in the literal sense of the word, but if it were my £25 or £30 invested then I would be questioning why in the space of 12 months has he only managed to arrange a single meeting with the RHA, but perhaps more importantly : why the RHA? Any driver worth his salt knows that the RHA is the last place on earth you’d go to if you wanted help with your working conditions as they are firmly in bed with the haulage co and logistics operator owners whose primarily goal is to keep driver wages as low as they can get away with in order to maximise their profits. :bulb: :unamused:

Once again - drivers : not the brightest crayons in the box eh. :unamused:

Unfortunately “Carl Usher” you open your mouth and post without looking or readin 1st

I did not open this topic, but am discussing like everyone else, and yes in support rather than slagging it of because Iwant to see some improvements.

You obviously have read nothing because it was not launched until the 11th December and not 12 months ago and so to obtain a meeting in the first month is not bad going.

You slag off the PDU and now slag of the RHA and also call 99% of Drivers thick [zb].

The RHA are respected by the Industry and are a good starting point if the PDU wants to voice drivers issues to the Industry.

Sometimes things take time and only when drivers want unity can something actually be done., that is when support is needed.

You have made clear you slag anything and anyone so why not stop posting your evil opinion and let others decide for themselves.

Or Rikki will have to shut this down which may be your aim

xichrisxi posted proof on the previous page that what you are saying is a blatant lie. :exclamation:

And how much time do you want? 1 meeting agreement (note: no actual meeting) in 12 months is good performance in your opinion then? No, it’s pathetic. The only reason you (Barrie) want lots of time is so that you can maximise the income for your gravy train retirement ponzi scheme.

Your making a good job of looking at right prat :smiling_imp:

Slag everyone off.
Cannot read facts
Abuse and accuse without facts

Drivers are not as thick as you make out, they have some intelligence and can read and make up their own mind.

I have paid £25 in support and so want it to work and pushing others to “LOOK” not insulting them.

Rikki should ask Barrie if he wants to comment or maybe prefers to keep it like this rather than going down the bad slide like you are trying to do to get it closed down. You want Rikki to shut it.