xichrisxi:
It’s been going for 13 months now this PDU campaign,to date they have 48 paid members (confirmed in his facebook page),that’s averaging 4 “sign-ups” a month…he’s going to need at least 25,000 members before anyone sits up and takes notice of him with regard to him pushing through any of his proposed changes,
Oddly he started his membership numbers in his cards at 500,which seems to be a attemp to give a misinterpretation of the amount of members,something about the whole thing just doesn’t sit right with me about the whole thing,so I’m out too.
Wrong and another who slates before looking
It was formed and launched on the 11th December 2016 (have a look instead of guessing)
Clearly I have done more research than you…look at the date,he’s been pushing this since Dec 2014 and used to charge £30 membership,oh how silly do you look now.
I must confess that I drive very rarely these days. The job (which I do still enjoy), just doesn’t make sense financially anymore for me.
However, I would consider (and occasionally do for the right ££) driving again. If the ££ was OK.
Will all the drivers that are dismissive of this scheme of Mr. Tozer’s, do the decent thing and refuse any benefits that may be gained in the future from it? I have to say I think it’s unlikely to make a big difference in a short space of time, but were it not for a bit of solidarity from time to time, we would still be waiting for the factories act…
Change takes time. And changing attitudes of drivers will need to happen before conditions can improve.
xichrisxi:
It’s been going for 13 months now this PDU campaign,to date they have 48 paid members (confirmed in his facebook page),that’s averaging 4 “sign-ups” a month…he’s going to need at least 25,000 members before anyone sits up and takes notice of him with regard to him pushing through any of his proposed changes,
Oddly he started his membership numbers in his cards at 500,which seems to be a attemp to give a misinterpretation of the amount of members,something about the whole thing just doesn’t sit right with me about the whole thing,so I’m out too.
Wrong and another who slates before looking
It was formed and launched on the 11th December 2016 (have a look instead of guessing)
Clearly I have done more research than you…look at the date,he’s been pushing this since Dec 2014 and used to charge £30 membership,oh how silly do you look now.
Are you in a habit of getting things wrong
That was a Union
Barrie Tozer
December 1, 2015
The PDU-UK will be launched and Formed on the 11th December 2015.
Although I have still not reached the support of 500 that I requested, I do believe that the PDU can prove its worth to drivers and attract more over time.
As such I have now ordered the ID Cards and Cab Window Stickers and leaflets using my own money.
Once received the PDU-UK will be formed and launched.
I now hope Drivers can offer their support and the PDU can prove to do as it says.
The time is right and the future could be brighter.
Thank you pdu-uk.co.uk
xichrisxi:
It’s been going for 13 months now this PDU campaign,to date they have 48 paid members (confirmed in his facebook page),that’s averaging 4 “sign-ups” a month…he’s going to need at least 25,000 members before anyone sits up and takes notice of him with regard to him pushing through any of his proposed changes,
Oddly he started his membership numbers in his cards at 500,which seems to be a attemp to give a misinterpretation of the amount of members,something about the whole thing just doesn’t sit right with me about the whole thing,so I’m out too.
Wrong and another who slates before looking
It was formed and launched on the 11th December 2016 (have a look instead of guessing)
Clearly I have done more research than you…look at the date,he’s been pushing this since Dec 2014 and used to charge £30 membership,oh how silly do you look now.
Are you in a habit of getting things wrong
That was a Union
Barrie Tozer
December 1, 2015
The PDU-UK will be launched and Formed on the 11th December 2015.
Although I have still not reached the support of 500 that I requested, I do believe that the PDU can prove its worth to drivers and attract more over time.
As such I have now ordered the ID Cards and Cab Window Stickers and leaflets using my own money.
Once received the PDU-UK will be formed and launched.
I now hope Drivers can offer their support and the PDU can prove to do as it says.
The time is right and the future could be brighter.
Thank you pdu-uk.co.uk
So he launched it as a union in Dec 2014,that failed to get any amount of support so he re launched it as something else in Dec 2015,you can quote something from Dec 2015 all you like the fact of the matter is this WAS launched on Dec 2014,look back in his Facebook posts it’s there in black and white, asking for £30 for membership,so I wonder when he changed it from a union to his “movement” did all those that signed up @ £30 get reimbursed as the union never got off the ground?!
He has changed it from PDU to PDU-UK that’s all,as I said something doesn’t sit right with me on this,when will he rebrand and relaunch it again?
No subs were taken for the union, as it was just talked about and failed as usual from lack of support.
whatever many say at least he is trying and until there is some form of unity then we will all get trampled on.
Who has spoken up for Truckers, you and me in the last 20 years?
No one so maybe this can help
Barrie Tozer
August 11, 2015
Since I have posted on here that the PDU cannot become a reality due to the lack of support I have been asked by some not to give in as UK Truckers need someone to take the issues to a higher level to sort out and resolve.
My understanding and reason I cannot move forward and create the PDU is down to lack of support and the apathy that dwells in our profession.
Many want to see a spokesperson that would take on the issues and bring about change for the better and also to voice concerns within our Industry from a Professional Drivers point of view.
Also Many have commented and informed me that there is no trust in a Union and this alone has lost the support required to form some unity amongst our profession.
I originally wanted to form a Union as it would be recognized and over time become established as a strong voice for UK Drivers. In reality and after consideration it was not the Union required but more importantly the UNITY that we need to solve the issues.
Many agree with the statements I issued on the website, they need to be debated and sorted out, plus the ongoing voice within the Industry to represent the professional drivers.
So maybe it was the trust in a Union, the cost and the apathy to support and join was the problem and not so much the aims and ambitions.
My Consideration for your feedback before contemplating the time and money required to put it forward to the profession and gain enough support. pdu-uk.co.uk Renamed; - Professional Drivers United – UK
eezeer:
One thing for sure going by the many comments is that a lot that like to slag something off while never bothering to look into it first. and then many folllow like sheep
Again posted on the group FB page for the PDU by Barrie
1000 x £18 = £18,000
It will become necessary for me to take this on full time to be able to represent the Drivers in the UK and other work involved.
All secretarial work, Welcome packages sent out and databases maintained, running the website and forum, attending between 100 – 150 meetings with the travel cost involved. Let’s just say travel cost and other bits come to £3000 over the year.
This leaves £15000 equating to a lower wage than most and also me taking a cut in wages by around £10,000 to represent you.
No one is getting rich from the PDU-UK
So going by his post he has put his money where his mouth is by spending £1000 up front and then is willing to lower his own income.
All to help Drivers
Pat Nicholson did it for free and she did it whilst working fulltime as a tramper for Bretts. I also think that given he’s using PDU-UK that this could be potentially a breach of trademark and is likely to cause confusion with the PDA-UK has existed for 14 years. I’ll be sending Pat a message to inform her of this.
By all means start up an organisation to represent drivers Barry but don’t ponce off the reputation of one that has been doing it for many years by using similar initials with just one letter change and using PDU-UK as your domain name when you know they’ve been using PDA-UK for years.
Conor:
Pat Nicholson did it for free and she did it whilst working fulltime as a tramper for Bretts. I also think that given he’s using PDU-UK that this could be potentially a breach of trademark and is likely to cause confusion with the PDA-UK has existed for 14 years. I’ll be sending Pat a message to inform her of this.
By all means start up an organisation to represent drivers Barry but don’t ponce off the reputation of one that has been doing it for many years by using similar initials with just one letter change and using PDU-UK as your domain name when you know they’ve been using PDA-UK for years.
Been a member on here and TW a long time.
Pat Nicholson campaigned really hard against the CPC by becoming a Trainer and then charging Drivers £50 a time and still does. (now thats what you call campaigning against it)
Fail to know much about the PDA as you never hear about anyone it has helped if it has, so cannot comment.
As you are so wise tell us all, what has the PDA actually achieved to help drivers as a voice in the Industry in the 14 years? (not heard of anything)
just a dot different is all that is needed for a domian name so fail to see the PDU will worry
By promoting someone else does no good in undermining another
They might both have a place in this Industry within their own right
let each get on with it.
PS, I thought it was now the PDF a bit different to pdu
Big yawn, seen it all so many times before, a thread bumped to try and scam a few more pounds from the hard of thinking. But please don’t let my close minded opinion put anyone off. It’s your money and your choice.
Apologies if my opinion is deemed as a naysayer, dream stealer etc but believe it or not I was once paid to post the same crap.
I think your 30 or 40 years to late to be starting unions.
Most of the unions that are for the working man or gone.
Was proven couple year at Grangemouth who had a strong Union presence for years.
Pits, steel and dockyards strong unions not worth a toss anymore.
You honestly think you are going get drivers with such variation on pay,terms and conditions.for the same job to stick together in an unite Union.
Themoocher:
I think your 30 or 40 years to late to be starting unions.
ffs it’s not a union, it’s unity. Sticking together to TRY and make a difference!!
As both you and “eezeer” vehemently deny being Barrie’s aliases, if he is so passionate about all this then why isn’t he posting here himself?
Also, 48 members over the past 12 months. If we take the mean figure of £27.50 then that’s a nice £1320 into his retirement pot already. Remind me again what he’s achieved for truckers during this period? All I’m seeing are boxfuls of utterly pointless stickers and ID badges.
It’s one giant ponzi scheme and if this were posted anywhere else it’d be ripped to shreds in seconds but he gets away with it here because 99% of truckers are thick [zb]s they can’t see what’s going on right under their noses.
I’m suprised the admin team haven’t removed the thread already as it’s blatantly spam/scam and any other outfit would need to pay to advertise here. Why is Tozer being allowed a dispensation? He should be paying to advertise here like everyone else. I think £1320 per month seems like a very fair figure.
This latest “cause” will go the same way as all his others as his reputation will ALWAYS precede him.
This is why I love internet forums. Endless posts about the job being crap and no one sticking together, then endless posts slagging off anyone who tries to create some unity and make the job better.
dri-diddly-iver:
All these ‘I’m alright jacks’ needn’t bother because they will just slate anything.
As I’ve stated above!
I got off my arse and found myself a decent job with decent pay and conditions. So why should I pay £25 to someone to help those who wont help themselves? You don’t like sitting in an RDC waiting room listening to other drivers’ ■■■■■■■■? Then jack it in and find something else.
Anyhow, it seems Rikki is in charity mode this week, all this free advertising for a rival website.
Winseer:
You cannot change anything by legally striking. It’s effective striking that’s already been made illegal you see…
Example: Some pickets are standing by the brazier near the gate of the yard they are picketing. Managers are trying to run the place by themselves, Health & safety be damned.
A truck turns up, and the pickets won’t let them cross… Truck tries to barge in anyways. One picketer pulls driver from cab, NOT to “duff him over” or any other form of assault - but merely to seperate him from the vehicle keys, which are then confiscated, and thrown down the nearest drain…
I’m not a violent person but if someone tried that stunt with me, they would be swiftly introduced to Mr Lump Hammer who normally resides behind my seat…
(now thats what you call campaigning against it)
