I dozed off after a few sentences.
I’m alright, Jack.
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Oh the good old days eh.
Made me miss 5 mins of precious facebook time but did give me a chuckle.
I’m out …
Of this game ATM, & haven driven in anger for a year, and sat at home warming my cockles beside the fire
It’s already been discussed in the Drivers Unity - A pipe dream or possible reality? thread.
edit: In fact the OP has taken part in thread I’ve linked to
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PDU-UK? You’re going to maybe come a cropper with that for nicking the idea from PDA-UK who have been on the go for well over a decade.
Same old complaints that’ve been on the go for the last 30 years. I have no idea when the golden age of being well paid was but it certainly wasn’t any time since 1992.
As for PDU-UK being launched to tackle issues, Pat Ratcliffe (nee Nicholson) formed the Professional Drivers Association some 14 years ago and it actually did a lot of campaigning, was at every Truck Show, took every opportunity to get in the national press to push our cause to the point that they would often be contacted by journalists when there was a story about lorries not involving accidents but it fell mostly on deaf ears and the initial wave of enthusiasm from drivers died off quite quickly which I expect will be the case.
eezeer:
If 10 years ago we had as UK Truckers already formed a unity and worked together with a voice to act on our behalf what might have happened with the debacle of the DCPC.
The PDA did exactly that and campaigned quite vehemently against it. Where were you supporting them, sat on Facebook “liking” posts? That seems to be about the sum total of effort most Facebookers are willing to put into a cause.
My advice? Save your money. Donate to the PDF which is the Foundation the PDA started because at least they are a registered charity to support drivers.
Oh and as to your website, you’d do better if it wasn’t utterly crap. Here’s a hint - YOU DON’T STICK EVERYTHING IN ALIGN=“CENTER”. It looks crap and extremely amateurish. You center the text for titles, not body text and if you insist on doing body text with central alignment at least define a page width of no more than 1024 wide. I have no idea why you’ve set it 1542 pixels wide at the moment but with my browser maximised I’m having to scroll left and right to read all of the text on some lines.
Where’s the ‘like’ button on this forum?
The OP may be right about ‘unity’ in other countries but unity or not they all still have DCPC and in most cases much stricter than ours. They do tend to have far better facilities, be better paid and better treated though.
The problem is - until everyone acts as a professional nobody will get treated as a professional. The situation won’t improve until we make it - maybe a bit of ‘unity’ will help.
it wont ever work - you have drivers being crapped on who will want to join and drivers who have decent term and conditions who wont want to join/give a toss.
add onto this the ■■■■ loads of ‘unions’ who all started with the same idea - then all of a sudden they become an area representative on cracking money and will pay no more than lip service to their members.
tachograph:
It’s already been discussed in the Drivers Unity - A pipe dream or possible reality? thread.edit: In fact the OP has taken part in thread I’ve linked to
Topics merged
eezeer:
I have already joined but it is a good posting on FB
The posting on FB
UK Truckers, can I please ask you read this before dismissing to the bin it will only take 2 minutes of your time.
It is time to look at yourself and be honest. (No insult intended)
I and many of you are fed up with the way we are treated and the lack of conditions and facilities while doing a hard day’s work to earn a living as a Driver. Long “expected” hours, the stand still of wages, the cost of keeping a licence (Tacho, Medical, CPC, renewal) being pushed out into unsafe parking, unwelcome and unwanted to name a few difficulties.
Some time ago, we were able to earn a top wage, had some pride in the job and were happy to be called Truckers. We were able to park in almost all Town centres where car parks became lorry parks allowing us the use of local facilities, now we are pushed further away into unsuitable lay byes or Industrial estates unwelcomed and unwanted. We used to meet, shake hands and enjoy a cuppa or meal together, now we all sit separately or in our own little tin box called a unit
Times have changed a lot and in my and many others opinion due to the division, we have gone into a decline and downhill slope of our working conditions which has led to an apathy of simply accepting it.
I being fed up and like many of you and have complained for years with no results. Decided to put my money where my mouth is and try to do something about it, by forming and launching the PDU-UK to bring in some form of unity and also aim to tackle those many issues we all have.It is not a £10,000 all singing all dancing website, but a simple way to inform and try to gather support to form this much needed unity.
Since it was launched I have been reading the 1000s of comments on the various FB group pages, forums and other outlets and one thing is very common on most of them. A very large number of UK Truckers have a blame and accuse others culture rather than looking honestly at their own fault of doing nothing themselves.
The 1000s of comments I and some have you have read, blame or accuse the EU, Foreign Drivers, our Government, The Industry, The Public, our Employers and other drivers for our decline in conditions and issues and the way we are treated. “By blaming and accusing others is a good excuse for doing nothing yourself”
If 10 years ago we had as UK Truckers already formed a unity and worked together with a voice to act on our behalf what might have happened with the debacle of the DCPC. 10,000 UK Truckers working together as a unity might have said NO we will not accept it and want to negotiate to make it better and more cost productive and beneficial to us. This Government would have had no choice but to listen and work to resolve the issue.
Instead divided as we are with no representative voice we all had to accept it, bend over and take it up the rear end even though we all complained and moaned about it.Unity can bring about far more than just a means of tackling the issues and having a voice in place to represent our needs, it can also bring us together as colleagues and friends and to help each other, meet and have a cuppa. Many dislike our foreign counterparts but next time in a RDC waiting room or a MSA just witness how they meet, shake hands together and talk as a group, while UK truckers sit alone, head bowed and bored.
The UK is the only Country in the EU where Truckers do not have some bond of UNITY and a voice to represent it.
Our Government, Industry and Employers do not want us to Unite as it gives them the power.
YOU can help change things, bring about unity and make our future better in the long run, but you have to do something about it rather than blame others.
The PDU-UK is not perfect yet and has a long way to go. It will improve with your help and support and your opinions and views can help guide its direction. It is only the stage to form the unity offering you a platform to make it happen.
I do not expect you all now to quickly open up your bank accounts and pay your subscription to join. I honestly wish it could be done free to you all but attending meetings and running the PDU does cost and enough join the cost can be lowered but might also help others who have unfortunately been involved in a bad accident, and as a unity it would be nice to help others.
The PDU ask you to look back at what has happened in the past and how we are now treated with no voice or representation to fight the battles and bring in better conditions. What is next around the corner to squeeze your wallet a little thinner or to make your work that bit harder and it may happen if no one fights to stop it.
I blame no one and respect the difficulties we all have as one in a massive Industry, we can all fight our own battles within the workplace and talk to good bosses to earn a bit more, but alone and as one you can do nothing about the bigger issues.
We are all to blame for the mess we are in due to having no structure or means to unite and do something about it. The Unity should have been formed 20 years ago and we would have been strong enough to say no too many of the changes and declining conditions.
For 48p a Week to you, I now want to form this unity, tackle our issues, bring us together, work together and improve our future working lives.
I can give a guarantee that no one in the PDU will take a massive wage or become rich on your money, there will not be plush offices or jaunts wasting “your” money. The Subscription will be used to form the unity and tackle the many issues and then any excess funds will help others.
Help the PDU to help you, support it, join it and be involved.It can happen if “You” want it.
It is called UNITYThank you for reading
pdu-uk.co.uk
All it needs to finish it off is the picture of the malnutritioned African kid looking sad with a fly on his face and it’d be done. “Just pledge 48p a week and YOU could feed little Umbungo for a whole year”.
Give it up Barrie, it ain’t happening. It’s clear that despite your “1000s” of letters of support everyone can see it for the retirement scam that it is hence your desperation and begging here to get people to sign up.
The ship set sail a lonnnng time ago and is never coming back. Move on with your life.
Do something rather than nothing!! It is a ‘unity’ not a ‘union’. I’ve signed up and let’s see what develops
If people are waiting for results before joining then it will be a lost cause because it needs more members to make it viable
Conor is talking like a bloody hampton again
give it a rest
I know Barrie has been on the campaigning side of things for years but he has done it with no backing. He is now venturing again and asking for backing. Try it and see. £25 for the bloody year is not a lot in the great scheme of things and it costs money to do these things, that’s not even counting the free time he is prepared to give up for it.
All these ‘I’m alright jacks’ needn’t bother because they will just slate anything.
Carl Usher you’re way off the mark
I may enlighten you one day as to who’s who
To be fair Conor is bang on.
The pointless thread bump (via starting a new thread) shows eezers true colours.
Free will is one thing so everyone can make their own choices but for me this is Barry & co’s retirement pot. Pipe dream, snake oil whatever the guise du jour one things for sure in my mind anyway is that pdu is as destined to fail now as its first conception when £30 was the joining price.
No organisation whos alleged primary goal is to gain momentum powered by its level of membership will initially request a joining fee.
dri-diddly-iver:
All these ‘I’m alright jacks’ needn’t bother because they will just slate anything.
As I’ve stated above!
dri-diddly-iver:
dri-diddly-iver:
All these ‘I’m alright jacks’ needn’t bother because they will just slate anything.
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As I’ve stated above!
It is usually the same ones that seem to slate anything and anyone, (bit better than anyone else )
I have paid and will give it a chance, nothing to lose. after a year I will see what has been done and decide again
It’s been going for 13 months now this PDU campaign,to date they have 48 paid members (confirmed in his facebook page),that’s averaging 4 “sign-ups” a month…he’s going to need at least 25,000 members before anyone sits up and takes notice of him with regard to him pushing through any of his proposed changes,
Oddly he started his membership numbers in his cards at 500,which seems to be a attemp to give a misinterpretation of the amount of members,something about the whole thing just doesn’t sit right with me about the whole thing,so I’m out too.
One thing for sure going by the many comments is that a lot that like to slag something off while never bothering to look into it first. and then many folllow like sheep
Again posted on the group FB page for the PDU by Barrie
The Subs requested by the PDU are to enable it to do as it states, and I perfectly understand that £25 is not affordable by all drivers but I have kept it as low as possible for the 1st year and hopefully subsequent years it may be lowered if enough support is forthcoming.
£25 of your subs is broken down as such:-
Most are paying by PayPal with a fee of £1.05 taken of.
£5 will pay for the membership package of ID Cards, Window Sticker, some flyers and cards in the thank you scheme, plus postage cost. (I have paid out over £1000 to get started)
There are small cost involved (.85p) to come out of this to cover the website, forum and form handling.
This leaves £18.00 to go into the PDU working fund.
It will be very difficult to reach 1000 members in the 1st year but obviously it is hoped for many more.
1000 x £18 = £18,000
It will become necessary for me to take this on full time to be able to represent the Drivers in the UK and other work involved.
All secretarial work, Welcome packages sent out and databases maintained, running the website and forum, attending between 100 – 150 meetings with the travel cost involved. Let’s just say travel cost and other bits come to £3000 over the year.
This leaves £15000 equating to a lower wage than most and also me taking a cut in wages by around £10,000 to represent you.
Less than 1000 members I will struggle, more than 1000 then more can be done.
No one is getting rich from the PDU-UK
So going by his post he has put his money where his mouth is by spending £1000 up front and then is willing to lower his own income.
All to help Drivers
If you are not sure do not listen to those that slate before looking but look for yourselves and then decide.
and Yes, I am pushing it because I have paid and want it to work.
xichrisxi:
It’s been going for 13 months now this PDU campaign,to date they have 48 paid members (confirmed in his facebook page),that’s averaging 4 “sign-ups” a month…he’s going to need at least 25,000 members before anyone sits up and takes notice of him with regard to him pushing through any of his proposed changes,Oddly he started his membership numbers in his cards at 500,which seems to be a attemp to give a misinterpretation of the amount of members,something about the whole thing just doesn’t sit right with me about the whole thing,so I’m out too.
Wrong and another who slates before looking
It was formed and launched on the 11th December 2016 (have a look instead of guessing)
eezeer:
One thing for sure going by the many comments is that a lot that like to slag something off while never bothering to look into it first. and then many folllow like sheepAgain posted on the group FB page for the PDU by Barrie
The Subs requested by the PDU are to enable it to do as it states, and I perfectly understand that £25 is not affordable by all drivers but I have kept it as low as possible for the 1st year and hopefully subsequent years it may be lowered if enough support is forthcoming.
£25 of your subs is broken down as such:-
Most are paying by PayPal with a fee of £1.05 taken of.
£5 will pay for the membership package of ID Cards, Window Sticker, some flyers and cards in the thank you scheme, plus postage cost. (I have paid out over £1000 to get started)
There are small cost involved (.85p) to come out of this to cover the website, forum and form handling.This leaves £18.00 to go into the PDU working fund.
It will be very difficult to reach 1000 members in the 1st year but obviously it is hoped for many more.
1000 x £18 = £18,000
It will become necessary for me to take this on full time to be able to represent the Drivers in the UK and other work involved.All secretarial work, Welcome packages sent out and databases maintained, running the website and forum, attending between 100 – 150 meetings with the travel cost involved. Let’s just say travel cost and other bits come to £3000 over the year.
This leaves £15000 equating to a lower wage than most and also me taking a cut in wages by around £10,000 to represent you.
Less than 1000 members I will struggle, more than 1000 then more can be done.No one is getting rich from the PDU-UK
So going by his post he has put his money where his mouth is by spending £1000 up front and then is willing to lower his own income.
All to help Drivers
If you are not sure do not listen to those that slate before looking but look for yourselves and then decide.
and Yes, I am pushing it because I have paid and want it to work.
He’s put a grand in…not 10 grand,he already has that sat in his bank from the sign ups already.