Dipper_Dave:
Yep this launched January 2015 with a £30 join up fee. Interest wasnt that great so perhaps a relaunch at £25 was deemed better.
A meeting with the CEO of the RHA is an interesting one though. If true it will be nice to hear how it goes. Hopefully the RHA will publish some information about the meeting on their website.
A Union was “suggested” not formed or asked for money in 2015 but it failed as drivers did not want another union and so he changed it to a unity and launched it in December.
dri-diddly-iver:
ffs it’s not a union, it’s unity. Sticking together to TRY and make a difference!!
They only one that seems be strong now is London Underground.
This is because they are all on the same pay and t&cs and fighting the same cause.
Because they near enough all do the same job. The thing is I just don’t care how someone is treated in an RDC, or having to work max hours, because it has as much relevance to me as how people are treated who work in a call centre. Or a who work as a labourers mate on a building site.
I like Themoocher have got myself a nice job, because I went and found it, I work hard at making ■■■■ sure I keep that job as long as it’s a good one.
There in lies the problem, my job is totally different to anyone else on here, why would I want to be in a union when the only thing our jobs have in common is that we sit a truck for some of our lives?
Steady on eezeer Rikki has only a few posts up asked us to keep this civil, although I believe your more invested in this than just £25 I shall take your word for it (well I wont but im pretending to).
Now then why would Barrie need to be invited surely as founder of this scheme he would be the first here to answer questions, promote PDU and keep threads bumped up the 1st page.
Im available for questions about my DDC ponz eh i mean investment opportunity as long as no members work for the FSA, SEC or any other regulatory bodies.
Themoocher:
I think your 30 or 40 years to late to be starting unions.
ffs it’s not a union, it’s unity. Sticking together to TRY and make a difference!!
Unity a fancy word for failed union last year?
As I said you are 30 or 40 years to late call it unite Union what ever Iv seen very strong unions in Scotland every member of work force in it.
There not worth a pot to ■■■■ in anymore.
They only one that seems be strong now is London Underground. This is because they are all on the same pay and t&cs and fighting the same cause.
Trucking is totally different.
It’s like me I’m on a good number just now.
Decent pay and T&cs.
Iv got off my arse and looked for new job and worked up.
Correct, because they unite as one and get listened to and now earn far more than any driver, as do many other professions that have united together to make things better
Unity can be strong in any form.
I have a good job and boss as well but only united can the unity help tackle the bigger issues.
Mate your dreaming.
What bigger problems?
I think 99% of us will agree all that matters is pay.
All this should have been done when tankers brung the country to a stand still on the motorways.
The time for unions or a unite work force have gone.
Maggie made sure of that.
Dipper_Dave:
Yep this launched January 2015 with a £30 join up fee. Interest wasnt that great so perhaps a relaunch at £25 was deemed better.
A meeting with the CEO of the RHA is an interesting one though. If true it will be nice to hear how it goes. Hopefully the RHA will publish some information about the meeting on their website.
A Union was “suggested” not formed or asked for money in 2015 but it failed as drivers did not want another union and so he changed it to a unity and launched it in December.
Try Reading the “FACTS”
Tomato tomarto, union unity, whats important is not to attempt to deceive readers saying this was only launched in December when its been online since January 2015 at least.
dri-diddly-iver:
ffs it’s not a union, it’s unity. Sticking together to TRY and make a difference!!
They only one that seems be strong now is London Underground.
This is because they are all on the same pay and t&cs and fighting the same cause.
Because they near enough all do the same job. The thing is I just don’t care how someone is treated in an RDC, or having to work max hours, because it has as much relevance to me as how people are treated who work in a call centre. Or a who work as a labourers mate on a building site.
I like Themoocher have got myself a nice job, because I went and found it, I work hard at making ■■■■ sure I keep that job as long as it’s a good one.
There in lies the problem, my job is totally different to anyone else on here, why would I want to be in a union when the only thing our jobs have in common is that we sit a truck for some of our lives?
I think most drivers are the same pal.
Worked hard and put the time in to get on a decent number.
They want me and u pay £30 for a plastic Union that has no relevance to most of the drivers.
Then go on strike lose nearly £200 a day for what?
Most of the big companies have unions anyway.
They get them there 2% pay rise every tear there happy.
In the grand scheme of things, we spend our adult lives working for someone who goes on holiday to the Caribeean for 3 months every year, drives a fancy jag and wears designer suits. If you don’t like it then either ■■■■ it up or find something the world wants then sell it to them then you too can be holidaying every 3 months, driving flash motors and wearing designer threads!
Radar19:
In the grand scheme of things, we spend our adult lives working for someone who goes on holiday to the Caribeean for 3 months every year, drives a fancy jag and wears designer suits. If you don’t like it then either ■■■■ it up or find something the world wants then sell it to them then you too can be holidaying every 3 months, driving flash motors and wearing designer threads!
Careful there Radar, you’re only young, you shouldn’t have a wise old head like that yet!
Themoocher:
Mate your dreaming.
What bigger problems?
I think 99% of us will agree all that matters is pay.
All this should have been done when tankers brung the country to a stand still on the motorways.
The time for unions or a unite work force have gone.
Maggie made sure of that.
Not dreaming but maybe hoping
The PDU has posted on he website the “Bigger problems” that no one driver can tackle, like the CPC, cost of Medicals that can cost some £100, the dwindling parking, and wages can increase if the bosses make more.
Are we really paid enough or are those that are not thinking what could happen in the future, redundancy and having to take a lower wage for example. Companies are still going bust.
Some had their CPC paid for and so think it does concern them but next time you might have to pay yourself.
It cost me a lot of money just to do my job
It is never too late to unite, but trusting someone to make it a reality is the problem.
Can you name any other profession that does not have some form of unity to negotiate their future?
Teachers, doctors, nurses, fireman, police, train drivers, tube drivers, all have unity and get paid more than us
eezeer:
Teachers, doctors, nurses, fireman, police, train drivers, tube drivers, all have unity and get paid more than us
With one exception on that list, all those jobs are skilled jobs.
Are you not skilled?
Or at least would like to be respected as professional
Whether you like it or not, driving a truck is not considered a “skill”, certaintly not a skill that is worth a dam in Joe publics eye. For me, as long as I get paid I’m not fussed. The job is easy enough, the office lets me get on with things and I don’t smash up the truck. All is well in the world.
eezeer:
Teachers, doctors, nurses, fireman, police, train drivers, tube drivers, all have unity and get paid more than us
With one exception on that list, all those jobs are skilled jobs.
Are you not skilled?
Or at least would like to be respected as professional
Whether you like it or not, driving a truck is not considered a “skill”, certaintly not a skill that is worth a dam in Joe publics eye. For me, as long as I get paid I’m not fussed. The job is easy enough, the office lets me get on with things and I don’t smash up the truck. All is well in the world.
Maybe I am just one that wants a bit more
I want to be seen as professional, have a skill that keeps the Country on the move be proud again and be respected by the Industry and not just a number to be paid weekly.
It needs a change in attitude by many, instead of just accepting what is the norm look for something better.
Aim high and see what it might bring
Sit back and do nothing will never achieve what I want.
Unity and working as a profession might bring rewards. It could fail but at least someone is willing to try.
dri-diddly-iver:
A lot of people knock Barry but at least he is trying to do something rather than nothing! I know him personally and he is a decent type of bloke. He is trying to get the best for us but gets little backup. Ok some of his points and sometimes his attitude doesn’t help but at least he’s trying - credit where it’s due surely?
Other drivers unions don’t seem to do much really in my opinion. It appears that the majority of drivers are happy/contented/settled in their current position and aren’t concerned about other drivers.
All well and good until something happens then they bleat on about unions and unity
I personally think there should be a regulated wage for this job (would be difficult to assess) but a driver with 20+ years experience should be earning more than a newbie.
I think Barry Tozer deserves a chance and with a little backing he may, just may achieve the ‘ideal world’, unless he gets the chance we will never know. It doesn’t cost anything to support him and see what ensues! He can only act on the responses.
Barry Tozer has had thousands of chances. He’s blown every single one of them and alienated the very people he needed on board to ensure the success of these ventures. This latest debacle will be no different and I will guarantee that.
Dear oh dear There you go again mate, predictably knocking somebody, (in your inimitable opinionated way) who is prepared to metaphorically get of his arse and have a go at something.
I don’t know the guy personally, but he comes across as someone who is constantly trying to come up with ideas to improve the lot of the average driver.
I know given the choice of having somebody in my corner who I would have backing me.
Either a much varied experienced driver, who is prepared to constantly ‘have a go’ to help others.
Or
A guy that just sits there wallowing in his own mediocrity, but at the same time criticising people that do actually try something, while doing nothing more remarkable himself in life than his famous …shop deliveries.
Now let me think.
There are those of us out here that are prepared to put a shoulder behind one mans efforts to make OUR lives better.
At least Barrie is positive and is trying to make a difference.
All those who bad mouth him or are completely negative should remember that he is trying to improve things for ALL of us in the industry, not just for a few.
eezeer:
Teachers, doctors, nurses, fireman, police, train drivers, tube drivers, all have unity and get paid more than us
With one exception on that list, all those jobs are skilled jobs.
Are you not skilled?
Or at least would like to be respected as professional
Not compared to a teacher, fireman, doctor, or nurse! Jesus, what sort of deluded case are you?
I’ve never found the majority of people to be disrespectful, perhaps because I’m polite and respectful to them, and I know how to use a bar of soap. And I try to be as professional as i can be.
I don’t need adulation. Perhaps you’re in the wrong game…
eezeer:
Teachers, doctors, nurses, fireman, police, train drivers, tube drivers, all have unity and get paid more than us
With one exception on that list, all those jobs are skilled jobs.
Are you not skilled?
Or at least would like to be respected as professional
Not compared to a teacher, fireman, doctor, or nurse! Jesus, what sort of deluded case are you?
I’ve never found the majority of people to be disrespectful, perhaps because I’m polite and respectful to them, and I know how to use a bar of soap. And I try to be as professional as i can be.
I don’t need adulation. Perhaps you’re in the wrong game…
nothing wrong with aiming higher and wanting a bit more, life would be a bit dull not to want more.
In the majority we are only seen as truckers, driving a big box that gets in everyones way, pushed out of towns not wanted, treated at RDCs as just a driver, charged extortoinate fees to park in MSas because they do want us. In the majority of cases our Employers push and expect but have no respect, The Industry are joined to keep us in place and hold the power.
To want a bit of respect and possibly be seen as more professional is what many must want?
Then to want better conditions.
Maybe I just aim higher than you.
you only get more in life if you try to achieve it, or sit back do nothing and nothing will ever get better for you
What you are failing to understand is, I don’t need more out my job. If I did, I would ask for it. I might even ask the other drivers on my firm to stand with me, to further our cause.
I certainly would not be asking every tom ■■■■ and harry who has put their foot on an accelerator in anything bigger than a Transit van to help me! Because they wouldn’t have any relevance. Just like your Union, or Unity, or Team, or whatever you feel like calling yourselves.
You say you aim high, I reckon you want something for nothing.
