Ministers are considering making motorists legally responsible for accidents involving cyclists or pedestrians, even if they are not at fault.
Government advisers are pushing for changes in the civil law that will make the most powerful vehicle involved in a collision automatically liable for insurance and compensation purposes.
ffs
But on the plus side I’ve just found a new favourite TV chef:
Last week James Martin, the television celebrity chef, described in a newspaper his joy at running a group of cyclists off the road and into a hedge while test-driving a sports car.
arronls:
Ministers are considering making motorists legally responsible for accidents involving cyclists or pedestrians, even if they are not at fault.
Government advisers are pushing for changes in the civil law that will make the most powerful vehicle involved in a collision automatically liable for insurance and compensation purposes.
Never get done as it goes against all moral and legal principals
arronls:
Government advisers are pushing for changes in the civil law that will make the most POWERFUL vehicle involved in a collision automatically liable for insurance and compensation purposes
Does that mean if I leave my trailer across a level crossing and its hit by a train it’ll be the train drivers fault?
Every UK trucker is guilty of a crime the moment he sits behind the wheel . There are so many regs that the lawmen are spoilt for choice . They can nick you 24/7 . So suicide cyclists won’t make much difference .
Is this not just like Holland?
Pretty good idea i think.
I was in Holland and went onto the road, when there was a cycle lane. I didnt half [zb] up the car drivers
Sugar Ray:
Think once, think twice, think as much as you like just make sure you get them.
That was always the best line of defence because a flattened cyclist can’t testify in court.But now there won’t be a court case at all because in the new socialist utopia all cyclists will be shouting under the wheels we go all truckers are guilty instead of banzai.
Adam_Mc:
[zb] it then…I’m going to ride my bike to work and throw myself into the side of stationary lorry at traffic lights!
Many years ago I witnessed a cyclist who was riding head down rear ending a stationary lorry. The cyclist was seriously injured (could move his legs or left arm) and was taken away in an ambulance. If this new proposal does make it into law then god help us because you can only imagine the size of the compensation payout if this cyclist was able to hold the driver of the stationary lorry to blame for his stupidity, stupidity which he would have to live with for the rest of his life.
arronls:
Government advisers are pushing for changes in the civil law that will make the most POWERFUL vehicle involved in a collision automatically liable for insurance and compensation purposes
Does that mean if I leave my trailer across a level crossing and its hit by a train it’ll be the train drivers fault?
The last I heard was that a train driver ran into another train crossing his track having gone through a yellow signal,double yellow signal,then a red,having been seen sound asleep miles before the crash,by a driver going in the opposite direction,with a bag hanging on the deadman’s handle and he got a commendation for being the only survivor.If you leave that trailer across the track just hope that you only get one going one way because if you get two you’ll get two life sentences instead of one.
Government advisers are pushing for changes in the civil law that will make the most powerful vehicle involved in a collision automatically liable for insurance and compensation purposes.
This will never make it into law, just sounds like sensationalist reporting to me.
Ford Focus 1.4l runs a red light and hits Ford Focus 2.0l, killing an occupant. Driver of 2.0l automatically liable? It won’t happen.
JoeG:
Is this not just like Holland?
Pretty good idea i think.
I was in Holland and went onto the road, when there was a cycle lane. I didnt half [zb] up the car drivers
Yeah it is the law here, even my partner who’s dutch thinks its a stupid law.
Too many of the two wheelers think the law puts them in some form of invulnerability suit, it is just down right dangerous. Red lights mean nothing, same as stop signs, give ways etc, just because cars have to drive on the right here means nothing to bike riders, only this morning whilst dropping my partners son at school there was a girl, mid 20’s, riding a bike, ciggy in one hand, mobile in the other to her ear, trying to turn the iPod off as she was in a call, whilst cycling down the wrong side of the road. This law only breeds stupidity amongst the cyclists, its OK for them to be blameless but doesn’t help them when their dead
One thing though, the driver gets 100% blame, but then can move the blame if it can be proved that the cyclist was a complete [zb], so JoeG such a act as being on the road when there was a fietspad available would give you a darn good share of the blame, and u could of been nicked for it too.
I thought this was already law. I remember reading in the paper about ten years ago about some EU judge declaring that motorists should be held responsible for all incidences.
JoeG:
Is this not just like Holland?
Pretty good idea i think.
I was in Holland and went onto the road, when there was a cycle lane. I didnt half [zb] up the car drivers
Yeah it is the law here, even my partner who’s dutch thinks its a stupid law.
Too many of the two wheelers think the law puts them in some form of invulnerability suit, it is just down right dangerous. Red lights mean nothing, same as stop signs, give ways etc, just because cars have to drive on the right here means nothing to bike riders, only this morning whilst dropping my partners son at school there was a girl, mid 20’s, riding a bike, ciggy in one hand, mobile in the other to her ear, trying to turn the iPod off as she was in a call, whilst cycling down the wrong side of the road. This law only breeds stupidity amongst the cyclists, its OK for them to be blameless but doesn’t help them when their dead
One thing though, the driver gets 100% blame, but then can move the blame if it can be proved that the cyclist was a complete [zb], so JoeG such a act as being on the road when there was a fietspad available would give you a darn good share of the blame, and u could of been nicked for it too.
It’s probably got something to do with the Dutch liking for those special cigars which they schmoke.There’s a rumour going round that they’ve found it safer if everyone’s stoned than if only the cyclists are.That way if one person decides to drive on the left then the other one in the opposite direction should be using that side of the road too.
Must admit, it makes me wonder, if when a cyclist try’s to sneak up your n/s at the traffic lights & get crushed when you turn left. Insted of having the cyclist hit you with a compensation claim, the haulier hit them with a claim for damage to the truck & wasted man hours whilst everything is sorted out, & pass on the cost of his medical care.
I bet this sort of accident would be eliminated over night
Carryfast:
It’s probably got something to do with the Dutch liking for those special cigars which they schmoke.There’s a rumour going round that they’ve found it safer if everyone’s stoned than if only the cyclists are.
“There is no doubt marijuana affects performance but it may be it affects it in a favourable way by reducing risk-taking”
“I can say that there are some quite distinguished researchers who are going through incredible contortions to try and prove that marijuana has to be a problem”
researchers say 80 per cent of those who had smoked cannabis [while playing computer games] demonstrated superior reaction times to those who had not. About 60 per cent finished a lap faster, while 70 per cent experienced a lower number of collisions, and more than half reached a higher level in the game.
Even the study that concluded it was dangerous could only come up with
Tracking ability was the only test criterion that was adversely affected
researchers injected standard doses of THC into mice that had been implanted with human lung cancer cells, and found that tumors were reduced in size and weight by about 50 percent in treated animals compared to a control group
JoeG:
Is this not just like Holland?
Pretty good idea i think.
I was in Holland and went onto the road, when there was a cycle lane. I didnt half [zb] up the car drivers
Yeah it is the law here, even my partner who’s dutch thinks its a stupid law.
Too many of the two wheelers think the law puts them in some form of invulnerability suit, it is just down right dangerous. Red lights mean nothing, same as stop signs, give ways etc, just because cars have to drive on the right here means nothing to bike riders, only this morning whilst dropping my partners son at school there was a girl, mid 20’s, riding a bike, ciggy in one hand, mobile in the other to her ear, trying to turn the iPod off as she was in a call, whilst cycling down the wrong side of the road. This law only breeds stupidity amongst the cyclists, its OK for them to be blameless but doesn’t help them when their dead
One thing though, the driver gets 100% blame, but then can move the blame if it can be proved that the cyclist was a complete [zb], so JoeG such a act as being on the road when there was a fietspad available would give you a darn good share of the blame, and u could of been nicked for it too.
It was amusing i thought.
Coudlnt keep any speed up on the stupid cobbles.
They did want to pass a law over here, so that if cyclists werent in the cycle facility, or had an accident, it was their fault.
That wasnt passed.
I doubt this one will be either.
