I was with Arriva in Merseyside, it was flat rate for weekends as years ago they consolidated the weekend rates into the hourly rate by agreement as at that time weekends where overtime at an increased rate (old North Western Road Car Co) but when Arriva took over early 90’s the hours where renegotiated to cover council contracts and to cover weekends as the job was going 5 over 7 days, there where a few other minor enhancements too.
Drift:
I was with Arriva in Merseyside, it was flat rate for weekends as years ago they consolidated the weekend rates into the hourly rate by agreement as at that time weekends where overtime at an increased rate (old North Western Road Car Co) but when Arriva took over early 90’s the hours where renegotiated to cover council contracts and to cover weekends as the job was going 5 over 7 days, there where a few other minor enhancements too.
Which I would suspect translates to driver being stitched up?
£7.80 per hour??
Some mug will do it.
Lusk:
Drift:
I was with Arriva in Merseyside, it was flat rate for weekends as years ago they consolidated the weekend rates into the hourly rate by agreement as at that time weekends where overtime at an increased rate (old North Western Road Car Co) but when Arriva took over early 90’s the hours where renegotiated to cover council contracts and to cover weekends as the job was going 5 over 7 days, there where a few other minor enhancements too.Which I would suspect translates to driver being stitched up?
I dont understand, why and how stitched up?
Attendance allowance, uniform allowance, pension and death in service, subsidised canteen, a very good redundancy package guaranteed, unpaid breaks dropped from one hour to 30 minutes… stitch me up anytime 
Still I don’t think they bring home much more then 320 pw after tax and all the extra benefits don’t help them pay their bills. 
Bus company’s before they were nationalised used to have an ok union so i’m guessing got most of the working conditions sorted out back then and the big company’s excepted it , smaller ones didn’t or couldn’t but as for wage rises I believe they are always under inflation or not at all.
I was taking home close to that before I went in the office ten years ago without overtime, dropped a bit when I took the office job but that was mon-fri 9 to 5
Those enhancements like and extra 30 minutes a day pay, uniform wash allowance and attendance allowance all add £££’s in the pocket added to that splits being restricted to shorter days, more cashing up and transfer time, its not just about the wonga, at least it wasnt for me.
Things may have changed as its been a few years since I was out of the bus industry but I still have a few mates that are depot managers I can swot up with 
I wonder what kind of “Excellent Benefits” they had in mind? 
Perhaps you get to use a nice clean toiilet on your deducted meal break?
Perhaps you get excellent DSS benefits, because you’re well below the poverty line on this pay?
Perhaps they’ll give you a LONG CONTRACT which compounds the loss at such low rates…
All the time we’ve got people among our own number saying “Yeh that’s ok pay folks” we’ll be handed this cheesy knob to lick on a regular basis. PaY rates cannot and won’t rise until such work at joke rates is refused by one and all. It isn’t just immigrants taking jobs like this ya know!
If you’re doing something wrong as a matter of daily life, stop doing it rather than do even more of it.
Oh for the record I wouldn’t drive class 1 or 2 for that rate advertised
Armagedon:
Drivers earn their living sat on their arse, Posties walk miles, what’s your problem?
Some of the responses on here suggest that there are a fair number of truckers prepared to pull their pants down and take one up the wrong 'un and be treated like someone’s ■■■■■… so yeah - go for it - assume the position
So i guess my problem is with people like you who think it’s fine to expect an individual to pay serious money to obtain a professional qualification then have to fork out for regular medicals/digicards and now CPC training without their investment being recognised, but instead be paid less then someone with NO SKILL requirements who hasn’t had to invest a penny of their own money and is - for want of a better phrase - ‘a glorified leaflet distributor’… (and YES they do deliver leaflets too)
It’s also that same attitude that sees this pitiful hourly rate as acceptable - and it’s THAT attitude that will keep those low offers being offered…
'kin unbelievable
Torkey:
It’s also that same attitude that sees this pitiful hourly rate as acceptable - and it’s THAT attitude that will keep those low offers being offered…
Well not really, it’s more that we live in a free market economy and wages are determined by the law of supply and demand.
Harry Monk:
Torkey:
It’s also that same attitude that sees this pitiful hourly rate as acceptable - and it’s THAT attitude that will keep those low offers being offered…Well not really, it’s more that we live in a free market economy and wages are determined by the law of supply and demand.
Markets can be manipulated…
Harry Monk:
Torkey:
It’s also that same attitude that sees this pitiful hourly rate as acceptable - and it’s THAT attitude that will keep those low offers being offered…Well not really, it’s more that we live in a free market economy and wages are determined by the law of supply and demand.
That is exactly it, and evidently in Preston it’s not necessary to pay over £8 per hour to get someone in the saddle regardless of what day of the week it is.
Torkey:
So i guess my problem is with people like you who think it’s fine to expect an individual to pay serious money to obtain a professional qualification
macci:
Torkey:
So i guess my problem is with people like you who think it’s fine to expect an individual to pay serious money to obtain a professional qualification
Yes i did think twice about posting that 
…but nevertheless, it’s a qualification without which we cannot do our job… 
yes it’s very, very ■■■■ for a sunday and probably average or at least the bottom end of average for mon - fri, but how anyone on here can say people shouldn’t take it yada yada yada, is beyond me. what gives you the right to do your job that for the money you’re happy with, whilst you are ruining it for someone else who is holding out for more money. but tell someone else not to take a job, slag them off etc when it might be a step up and improve their life.
everyone has a point at which you say ok i’ll do it for that, that point will be higher than some and lower than others.
no i wouldn’t work a sunday for it, but i ain’t gonna slag someone off if they do
tachograph:
Some of you people see nothing wrong with class 1 at £7.80ph for Sundays ?I don’t think there’s anywhere in the UK where that can be described as anything other than taking the ■■■■
Apart from on here hey?
its down to the individual perception and circumstances really, to me and many others sunday is a day and thats all, same as all the other days, and some guys this shift system may be the ideal shift?..
I know, until my kids were born i would by far prefer to work all weekend and have a couple of days off in the week, i used to go fishing ect and it was a lot quieter at the ponds/fisheries and rivers during the week then at weekend, which i prefered and it worked for me…
and when the kids were babes i would look after them for the 2 days in the week allowing my wife to work without paying too much out in childcare…
so i would,nt have a prob if someone did it…
I think most people who work Sundays, whether it be in retail, tourism or transport get paid little or no more for working on that day. It was once the case but seems to have been in decline since shops started opening on Sundays. One of my first jobs was in a hospital and double pay was normal, my girlfriend is an HCA for the local health authority and she tells me she gets 15p per hour extra for working Sundays.
Its down to individuals and what they think their time is worth in pounds per hour some think they are worth more then others, some need to earn a certain amount to be able to pay bills rent/mortgage ect .
And some would still work if they won the lotto jackpot.
macci:
That’s not too bad a rate.