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just seen one of these on ebay and was wondering if they are worth having? i ask this as i do some work for agencies as well as my full time job.
are you able to make manual entries (for doing work not involving driving) how does it monitor your driving hours (i’m guessing it works on a sort of GPS thingy like a satnav).
do you have one and are they worth having?
I use one of the older ones 
Davey Driver is the man with all the answers - he invented them 
I have the old one too and its worth its weight in gold once you get used to it and remember to change the modes!!
btw, they don’t use gps or anything that technical -you press a button when you change modes
I’ve got the last version of it, works out the lot for you : WTD break, fortnight drive etc.
Wouldn’t be without it, and it saves cluttering up the cab with dozens of seperate stop watches 
P.S. sent you a PM
The new ones CLICKY should be available at the end of this month 
From the ebay page linked to in Giblsa’s post.
Brand New Software, Rewritten to take into account the April 2007 EU Driver’s hours legislation changes.
The timer will also alert you to maximum shifts, as you approach 15 hrs the timer sounds a loud warning which must be cancelled by the driver confirming they have been made aware of the warning, if the driver has already used their 3 x 15 hrs shifts for the week, the timer will warn them as the 13 hr maximum approaches, unless a consecutive rest of 3 hrs break has been taken, in which case it will allow a maximum shift of 16 hrs under split shift operation.
Lets hope that’s a mistake in the advert, split shift rest periods are now 3 hours minimum followed by a rest period of 9 hours minimum, that makes a maximum spread-over of 15 hours not 16 hours.
tachograph:
From the ebay page linked to in Giblsa’s post.Brand New Software, Rewritten to take into account the April 2007 EU Driver’s hours legislation changes.
The timer will also alert you to maximum shifts, as you approach 15 hrs the timer sounds a loud warning which must be cancelled by the driver confirming they have been made aware of the warning, if the driver has already used their 3 x 15 hrs shifts for the week, the timer will warn them as the 13 hr maximum approaches, unless a consecutive rest of 3 hrs break has been taken, in which case it will allow a maximum shift of 16 hrs under split shift operation.
Lets hope that’s a mistake in the advert, split shift rest periods are now 3 hours minimum followed by a rest period of 9 hours minimum, that makes a maximum spread-over of 15 hours not 16 hours.
Just emailed Davey this post, will let you know what his reply is.
i also have one but dont know how to work it as i got no instructions for it. if anybody can scan them an pm me with them that be great, thanks.
tachograph:
From the ebay page linked to in Giblsa’s post.Brand New Software, Rewritten to take into account the April 2007 EU Driver’s hours legislation changes.
The timer will also alert you to maximum shifts, as you approach 15 hrs the timer sounds a loud warning which must be cancelled by the driver confirming they have been made aware of the warning, if the driver has already used their 3 x 15 hrs shifts for the week, the timer will warn them as the 13 hr maximum approaches, unless a consecutive rest of 3 hrs break has been taken, in which case it will allow a maximum shift of 16 hrs under split shift operation.
Lets hope that’s a mistake in the advert, split shift rest periods are now 3 hours minimum followed by a rest period of 9 hours minimum, that makes a maximum spread-over of 15 hours not 16 hours.
Funnily enough I mentioned this to Davey earlier this morning so he is aware of it and the software for the new timers is being altered to correct the error.
tachograph:
Lets hope that’s a mistake in the advert, split shift rest periods are now 3 hours minimum followed by a rest period of 9 hours minimum, that makes a maximum spread-over of 15 hours not 16 hours.
It was my mistake and yes it has been corrected in the software
The Software re-write was from scratch although the operating of it is the same as the old CE02
Much easier to use than the original as it only requires 3 button presses after a weekly rest instead of the numerous ones the CE01 requires.
The Search info screen will now display the current days total POA and Other Work recorded and the total POA recorded for the week.
The Software has been undergoing tests for the past month and I’m confident the testers have uncovered all of the bugs which have been rectified. Thanks to Coffeeholic and McPloppy for their assistance, unfortunately one tester in Coventry missed out on testing when the theiving postie decided to keep his parcel and after a number of complaints from residents the Royal Mail found 2 years worth of unopened and undelivered mail at the posties house . 
There will be a Discount offer for Trucknet Members announced when Rikki reopens the Hour Guard Forum on this site for Technical Questions etc
Production commences in China on Tuesday this week, and should be finished by 22nd when they will be shipped to our shipping Agents for shipping to UK via Airfreight arriving around the 26th April and being dispatched to customers around the 28th.
Users of the original Hour Guard will be very impressed with the new timers and simplicity of use. We’ve also done away with pocket clips and Airvent Clips and base stands and replaced them with a windscreen suction mount supplied with each new timer.
Both versions now use rechargeable batteries and of course come supplied with dual voltage 12v/24v chargers
Anyone still using the Original CE01 I still have some of the pocket clips and air vent clips if anyone needs any
I also have a number of the protective pouches Just send an SAE and promise to stick a coin in a charity box of your choice I have about 1000 that are no good to me any more as they are incompitable with the New Hour Guards.
mekong:
i also have one but dont know how to work it as i got no instructions for it. if anybody can scan them an pm me with them that be great, thanks.
Email me at davey@techno-solutions.co.uk and I’ll send you them as an attachment
Shame about doing away with the base stand, I rather liked that. The only thing about windscreen suction is that it may look like a sat nav to the hoodie brigade who may try to break in to get their thieving hands on it 
Davey Driver:
tachograph:
Lets hope that’s a mistake in the advert, split shift rest periods are now 3 hours minimum followed by a rest period of 9 hours minimum, that makes a maximum spread-over of 15 hours not 16 hours.
Thanks for clearing that up, It’s good to know you were already aware of the error
One question if you don’t mind, on the new version is it possible to enter manual entries for other work ?
The reason I ask is because I imagine most people start work before going anywhere near the vehicle, and finish work some time after leaving the vehicle.
tachograph:
One question if you don’t mind, on the new version is it possible to enter manual entries for other work ?
The reason I ask is because I imagine most people start work before going anywhere near the vehicle, and finish work some time after leaving the vehicle.
Easily solved by keeping the unit in your bag and not in the vehicle when you finish your shift. That way you can start your shift on the timer when you arrive at work and finish it when you leave. I wouldn’t have thought it was a good idea to leave the timer in a vehicle when you finish work as that vehicle may available when you turn in for work the next day.
Coffeeholic:
tachograph:
One question if you don’t mind, on the new version is it possible to enter manual entries for other work ?
The reason I ask is because I imagine most people start work before going anywhere near the vehicle, and finish work some time after leaving the vehicle.Easily solved by keeping the unit in your bag and not in the vehicle when you finish your shift. That way you can start your shift on the timer when you arrive at work and finish it when you leave. I wouldn’t have thought it was a good idea to leave the timer in a vehicle when you finish work as that vehicle may available when you turn in for work the next day.
It certainly wouldn’t be a good idea for me to leave anything in a vehicle, I drive different vehicles every day for a firm that has over 100 agency drivers a day during the busy periods .
I just thought it would be good not to have to mess about taking the timer out of your bag when starting or finishing work.
It’s a shame they don’t make a version that allows for more manual setting by the driver, but that’s just my opinion and I’m sure some people will see things differently.
tachograph:
It’s a shame they don’t make a version that allows for more manual setting by the driver, but that’s just my opinion and I’m sure some people will see things differently.
Every thing you do with the Hour Guard is actually a manual entry, it does very little automatically, apart from calculating totals for the various modes, and requires you to push the buttons to record your work.
The problem with being able to go back and alter things or make entries after the event is that it would devalue it as a device for keeping an accurate record of you activities and would render it somewhat pointless.
tachograph:
It’s a shame they don’t make a version that allows for more manual setting by the driver, but that’s just my opinion and I’m sure some people will see things differently.
I’m always ready to listen to what features users of the timer want added to it, obviously it’s aimed at helping Drivers so anything that can be improved will be.
Coffeeholic:
The problem with being able to go back and alter things or make entries after the event is that it would devalue it as a device for keeping an accurate record of you activities and would render it somewhat pointless.
Sorry but I completely disagree with that.
I can only say what I would want from a timer that I used, and that is to keep an accurate record of my work activities in the most convenient way for me.
Being able to enter start and finish times, or any other activity manually would in no way deter from a timer keeping an accurate record, clearly if a driver deliberately entered incorrect times it would throw the accuracy of the record out, but if a driver is stupid enough to want to cheat him/her self they will anyway.
In fact the digital tachograph has the facility to enter times manually, and that keeps accurate records, OK some people will disagree with that
tachograph:
Being able to enter start and finish times, or any other activity manually would in no way deter from a timer keeping an accurate record
And you can indeed do that with the timer as it currently stands. As I said, all the entries you make are manual, you decide when to switch it to rest at the end of a shift and switch it from rest at the start. You press the various buttons during your shift to switch the device to and from other work, break and POA. As every entry you make is in fact a manual entry it already does what you want it to do.
I think giving the option to go back and change things or to later them retrospectively would be a mistake. Previous incarnations of the Hours Guard have been looked on favourably by the likes of VOSA, with drivers reporting of being stopped and when the official notices they use an Hours Guard they dig less deeply than they might, and one of the reasons they did like the device was the fact you cannot make corrections or alter the info in anyway. If you could go back and alter things then I don’t think it could be sold as a way to accurately record your activities.