i never pull into lane 2 to let a car or truck in from the sliproad. these days theyve come to expect it ,not slowing down and forcing their way in .
can remember years ago the car on the sliproad always slowed down and stopped if need be -rarely if ever did anybody “let them in early” by moving into lane 2 - thats how it should be
James the cat:
alf1956:
Just for the record i had left a sensible gap & was able to stop in 3 brake movements so as not to do a full on stop & risk shedding the load. Before anybody makes a spurious comment the load being insecure & it should not shed after hard braking the load was well secured to our industry standards.Sounds like you did a good job there. Well handled.
Thanks James.
corij:
i never pull into lane 2 to let a car or truck in from the sliproad. these days theyve come to expect it ,not slowing down and forcing their way in .
can remember years ago the car on the sliproad always slowed down and stopped if need be -rarely if ever did anybody “let them in early” by moving into lane 2 - thats how it should be
That makes you just as bad as them then. Selfish driving like this is part of what’s become all there is to hate around the industry today.
corij:
i never pull into lane 2 to let a car or truck in from the sliproad. these days theyve come to expect it ,not slowing down and forcing their way in .
can remember years ago the car on the sliproad always slowed down and stopped if need be -rarely if ever did anybody “let them in early” by moving into lane 2 - thats how it should be
So…you think that by actually causing a joining vehicle to stop is a good thing? How the hell are they expected to join a live motorway lane from a standing start safely then? is it really so difficult to move into lane 2 to let somebody on. I really hope this type of selfish “**** you, I’m alright Jack” attitude isn’t forced onto you one of these days!
i was taught that the vehicle on the motorway Always has priority . As for a joining vehicle joining from a standing start,well thats fine,they should wait for an appropriate big gap.
ive seen many near misses when a joiner forces his way in with no slowdown and a car/truck has to suddenly move into lane 2 ,in the process nearly getting rear ended by a car that was humming along at speed in lane 2 .
Born Idle:
corij:
i never pull into lane 2 to let a car or truck in from the sliproad. these days theyve come to expect it ,not slowing down and forcing their way in .
can remember years ago the car on the sliproad always slowed down and stopped if need be -rarely if ever did anybody “let them in early” by moving into lane 2 - thats how it should beSo…you think that by actually causing a joining vehicle to stop is a good thing? How the hell are they expected to join a live motorway lane from a standing start safely then? is it really so difficult to move into lane 2 to let somebody on. I really hope this type of selfish “**** you, I’m alright Jack” attitude isn’t forced onto you one of these days!
when i join the motorway im always prepared to slow down and stop if necessary -especially if i see a lot of traffic. i never think im allrite jack, i think wooah its my place to stop at the give way marker if necessary
this thread has reminded me of a near miss recently,i was driving along in lane 1 and i noticed a tipper truck joining the motorway at a fair lick . there was a lot of traffic but he wanted in which would have meant me slamming on my brakes ,i couldnt pull into lane2 as was busy . Anyhow with seconds to spare he reluctantly braked in the sliproad and the traffic flowed by , but it was a close run thing .
corij:
when i join the motorway im always prepared to slow down and stop if necessary -especially if i see a lot of traffic. i never think im allrite jack, i think wooah its my place to stop at the give way marker if necessary
You’re an accident waiting to happen, and a pretty clueless one at that.
You might want to check number 270 in The Highway Code to see how clueless you actually are.
Twonk, no offence intended. 
From a slip road, use the shoulder if it’s not possible to join, to build up a matching speed is what I was taught. If you break down corij, do you try to rejoin from a standing start? Or do you build up and wait for a gap…both scenarios are exactly the same!
Born Idle:
From a slip road, use the shoulder if it’s not possible to join, to build up a matching speed is what I was taught. If you break down corij, do you try to rejoin from a standing start? Or do you build up and wait for a gap…both scenarios are exactly the same!
i always wait for a gap, i never force my way in .
my observation is its only in recent years,maybe in the last 5 -10yrs , that some joiners have assumed a right to join without slowing up onto a busy road
Coffeeholic:
corij:
when i join the motorway im always prepared to slow down and stop if necessary -especially if i see a lot of traffic. i never think im allrite jack, i think wooah its my place to stop at the give way marker if necessaryYou’re an accident waiting to happen, and a pretty clueless one at that.
You might want to check number 270 in The Highway Code to see how clueless you actually are.
Twonk, no offence intended.
259 tells me the traffic on the motorway has priority
corij:
Coffeeholic:
corij:
when i join the motorway im always prepared to slow down and stop if necessary -especially if i see a lot of traffic. i never think im allrite jack, i think wooah its my place to stop at the give way marker if necessaryYou’re an accident waiting to happen, and a pretty clueless one at that.
You might want to check number 270 in The Highway Code to see how clueless you actually are.
Twonk, no offence intended.
259 tells me the traffic on the motorway has priority
Obviously, or there wouldn’t be a give way line at the end of the slip would there? 
That doesn’t mean you can come down the slip and come to a halt or that you cannot move over to assist a joining vehicle.
corij:
i never pull into lane 2 to let a car or truck in from the sliproad. these days theyve come to expect it ,not slowing down and forcing their way in .
can remember years ago the car on the sliproad always slowed down and stopped if need be -rarely if ever did anybody “let them in early” by moving into lane 2 - thats how it should be
Clearly someone who sees driving as a competition. The sort that’s making driving such a depressing slog these days
alf1956:
James the cat:
alf1956:
Just for the record i had left a sensible gap & was able to stop in 3 brake movements so as not to do a full on stop & risk shedding the load. Before anybody makes a spurious comment the load being insecure & it should not shed after hard braking the load was well secured to our industry standards.Sounds like you did a good job there. Well handled.
Thanks James.
Welcome mate. Clearly would’ve given anyone a fright but credit where credits due
corij:
i never pull into lane 2 to let a car or truck in from the sliproad. these days theyve come to expect it ,not slowing down and forcing their way in .
can remember years ago the car on the sliproad always slowed down and stopped if need be -rarely if ever did anybody “let them in early” by moving into lane 2 - thats how it should be
tee double u aaa attt. call your self a professional, every day we get cut up forced in front of and while it gets on my ■■■■ i still prevent the worst by slowing down or moving over, it people like you that cause 3 hour delays for causing a pile up because you were in the right, be you that was you in the caravan video the other day on the m5 slip, i just hope you b reakdown in the middle lane of the motorway and fellow knuckle dragger hangs you out dry trying to get over
In many ways I agree that it has become expected that motorway traffic WILL move over whatever the circumstances to let people on. The worst scenario is a line of traffic steaming up the on slip, often with a white Transit tipper in the mix acting as a snowplough for those behind. It shouldn’t be up to me to adjust my speed if lane two is busy, tippers’ mates should adjust their speed to slot in, or carry on the hard shoulder. On dual carriageways its often worse due to no hard shoulder.
It does boil my ■■■■ when you have nowhere to go and you look over to see some prick in a Ford C Max silently mouthing obscenities at you over their shoulder as you didn’t/couldn’t " let" them on.
■■■■ you. 
By all means I move over to two traffic permitting, it’s when this isn’t possible that things become difficult.
I still visit England and never have any trouble joining a motorway or any other road, why ? cos I know how to do it properly and don’t expect others to adjust for me. I never have problems with others joining when I’m already on, why ? Once again, cos I know how to do it properly. I don’t mind easing up a bit, or moving over if possible. I’ve never cared if it adds two seconds to my journey time. It can be a pain when they come down the slip right up one anothers arses, but why get all bitter and twisted about it. Fact is, we all need a bit of help now and then and then you get some ignorant twot like corij bragging about how little he knows.
i tell you why iv come to conclusion to stand my ground [and not move over] . Sometimes theres a split second decision to be made , such as the white transit tipper scenario above . its easier in my mind to have a fixed policy ie i dont move over , rather than a “always move over” or wishey washey sometimes I DO- SOMETIMES I DONT policy that risks the safety of those already on the motorway.
its the same as when im walking approaching a pedestrian crossing,i Always hesitate to step out even if it looks clear that an approaching motorist in the ■■■■■■ tipper is slowing down .
Yeah, I s’pose it saves you having to think.
The first hint of a selection of upside down brooms and other bits and pieces in a piece of drainpipe cable tied to the headboard and you know your in trouble
corij:
i tell you why iv come to conclusion to stand my ground [and not move over] . Sometimes theres a split second decision to be made , such as the white transit tipper scenario above . its easier in my mind to have a fixed policy ie i dont move over , rather than a “always move over” or wishey washey sometimes I DO- SOMETIMES I DONT policy that risks the safety of those already on the motorway.
its the same as when im walking approaching a pedestrian crossing,i Always hesitate to step out even if it looks clear that an approaching motorist in the ■■■■■■ tipper is slowing down .
‘A fixed policy’? What a ridiculous way to approach driving. If you’re finding you cant make split second decisions taking into account your surroundings then I fear driving for a living isn’t for you.