Another aspect is that manufacturing is struggling with volume currently down, the closure of Redcar is bound to hurt haulage in the area as well. Less stuff needing moved means less drivers needed 
Pimpdaddy:
V40LLY:
More than likely, yes. You only get the odd incident like that in the busy Christmas period.It hardly says there’s a driver shortage, does it lol.
A driver shortage would be; half the transport companies HGV fleet parked up, every day-year round, with the shop shelves half empty.
By that point, the lorry driver’s wages would be going up and up. They certainly wouldn’t be £7, 8, 9, 10 (whatever), like they are at the moment.
I can’t see anything changing in the foreseeable future, that’s for sure!
+1, you’d think its the end of the world the way some people are banging on about it lol. Everything I want is on the shelf or its delivered on time, every time!
I take it you know you’re speaking to the same 14 year old when you’re responding to Wolly and boredwivbrain?
Juddian:
Bloody hell, its only the start of page 8 and a full house already.
You’re not wrong. I’d say a trio of trollogy, but two of them are but one. So a duo, with the third mistaking the one, for two. A medley of trollness.
V40LLY:
Pimpdaddy:
boredwivdrivin:
a truck is parked in yard looking for a driver …Can the load not be delivered the next day?
More than likely, yes. You only get the odd incident like that in the busy Christmas period.
It hardly says there’s a driver shortage, does it lol.
A driver shortage would be; half the transport companies HGV fleet parked up, every day-year round, with the shop shelves half empty.
By that point, the lorry driver’s wages would be going up and up. They certainly wouldn’t be £7, 8, 9, 10 (whatever), like they are at the moment.
I can’t see anything changing in the foreseeable future, that’s for sure!
Finally finished your homework then? Nice of you to log back on boredwivGCSEs. Hope you’ve gone easy on your PE sock.
James the cat:
Hope you’ve gone easy on your PE sock.
Mine all have holes in them now, I can’t afford new ones on my night security job that pays less & is far less superior to a mighty big special truck driver.[emoji33][emoji23]
Pimpdaddy:
James the cat:
Hope you’ve gone easy on your PE sock.Mine all have holes in them now, I can’t afford new ones on my night security job that pays less & is far less superior to a mighty big special truck driver.[emoji33][emoji23]
Haha-good one m8
Pimpdaddy:
James the cat:
Hope you’ve gone easy on your PE sock.Mine all have holes in them now, I can’t afford new ones on my night security job that pays less & is far less superior to a mighty big special truck driver.[emoji33][emoji23]
Have you just dropped the ball? Are these two phantoms actually you talking to yourself when bored of onion picking? Mm, weighing the evidence to determine the level of fishyness.
better pay more family friendly hours better treatment…driver shortage over
Don’t know if there’s a driver shortage, you would think there is given the amount of drivers on here that dislike every aspect of the job. That said the majority on here don’t appear to be drivers anyway.
mulbs:
…driver shortage over
How can something be over when it hasn’t even begun…?[emoji33]
Pimpdaddy:
How can something be over when it hasn’t even begun…?
You were.
Darb:
Well it must be true because Taylors says so !
I like Roger borgs answer in the comments Pmsl [THUMBS UP SIGN]
JB:
Darb:
Well it must be true because Taylors says so !I like Roger borgs answer in the comments Pmsl [THUMBS UP SIGN]
Roger Borg. Hmm. That’ll be The Borg off here then. AKA Chas.
chicane:
I agree with almost all that you say, winseer. Inflation can erode the ‘real’ amount borrowed on things like mortgages and other long term investments (land, housing) provided that the borrowing is at a long term fixed rate, QE erodes it even quicker and why it has been used by governments as a quick fix. The prospects for property are at best confused, commercial properties even around the M25 are not that great just now, housing is (thought what effect the new landlord legislation will have remains to be seen) and should be a decent bet until the government provides stimulus for a massive amount of house building. I can also tell you that borrowing money is bloody hard today let alone the '70s.I would also suggest that those who have cash savings are seeing that eroded because the income from ‘interest’ paid on those savings which used to be enough to live on is no longer sufficient and they are now having to eat into their capital, to live. That can only go on for so long. When you think how much QE has been pumped into the global economy and yet we still see sub 1% inflation then things really are in a mess.
Deflation increases the value of cash, but decreases the value of debt - since it has become harder to collect.
Lower interest rates are a symptom of deflation rather than the cause of it. Rates cannot rise either - it’s all a load of bull to suggest that the Bank of England has ANY control whatsoever on when rates will rise at some point in the future - If they cannot know when they will rise, then it stands to reason that they cannot control that rise in it’s timing either. When the rate rise comes, it will be of itself, and the timing will stink as far as the UK economy is concerned. The only silver lining is that, as Carney is Osbourne’s man - Osbourne might go as “collateral damage” should a rate rise be badly timed, too much, and too soon for the economy to take - and send us into an even worse recession than in 2008.
In the 80’s Nigel Lawson massively expanded the Sterling currency, effectively printing money on the sly. Once injected into the economy - this money in theory, was to be removed at some point in the future when the economy was strong enough to withstand such a withdrawal. That time, of course, - NEVER actually came.
The same applies now to QE money - THAT injection too - will never be taken back.
One would have to literally gather the £375bn in cash money - and put a match to the lot - in order to “retract” it out of the economy again.
Since the Tories won’t raise personal taxation rates to replenish that amount to the treasury (it would need around a 15% rise in income taxes or 20% on VAT for the entire parliament to do this)… The £375 is here to stay. By not “adding” to it, the Governor of the Bank of England creates the illusion that “it might be taken back one day” just as “interest rates will rise any minute - honest!”.
7 years on, we still continue to believe the lie. Workers and savers get told that “Sorry bud, your return must remain low indefinitely" whilst borrowers get told "Can you afford higher interest rates? - Prove it with a massive deposit and paying those artificially high borrower rates indefintely”.
The banks have made fools of us all. They are on a Win/Win plan despite supposedly being in the doghouse, whilst the saver and borrower alike get skinned at both ends.
Dennis Healey has passed today. HE understood. Labour’s last great Chancellor. I met him on a school trip to the Museum of London around 1978. RIP.
BillyHunt:
Don’t know if there’s a driver shortage, you would think there is given the amount of drivers on here that dislike every aspect of the job. That said the majority on here don’t appear to be drivers anyway.
+1
The sheer bitterness that spews from some members on here causes me great bamboozlment as to why
A - They are still in the job and dont go and do something else
B - Why, when they are away from the job they despise, they spend most of their spare time on an hgv forum.
And it seems to be the biggest moaners, whingers and complainers who post the most.
I also dont get the guys who dont drive any more who come on and ■■■■ and moan either. If you hated the job and your glad to be out of it, why are you on an hgv forum? Surely you’d want to be somewhere else?
Winseer:
Dennis Healey has passed today. HE understood. Labour’s last great Chancellor. I met him on a school trip to the Museum of London around 1978. RIP.
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He was actually instrumental in where we are now in his thinking that ‘inflation’ is wage led not price led.Thereby leading to the idea that prices can be controlled by holding down wage levels.Thereby catastrophically breaking the Fordist closed loop that was taking us forwards and which a modern industrialised economy depends on for its survival.On that note it was Shore not Healey who realised that it takes price controls to deal with a price led inflationary environment.Which of course conflicts with the idea of ‘free markets’.
Carryfast:
Winseer:
Dennis Healey has passed today. HE understood. Labour’s last great Chancellor. I met him on a school trip to the Museum of London around 1978. RIP.
0He was actually instrumental in where we are now in his thinking that ‘inflation’ is wage led not price led.Thereby leading to the idea that prices can be controlled by holding down wage levels.Thereby catastrophically breaking the Fordist closed loop that was taking us forwards and which a modern industrialised economy depends on for its survival.On that note it was Shore not Healey who realised that it takes price controls to deal with a price led inflationary environment.Which of course conflicts with the idea of ‘free markets’.
Dennis Healey was the best Labour leader we never had, he should have been elected instead of Michael Foot. He would have been a strong leader, much better than Shore or any other Labour politician of his generation. A great shame. RIP Dennis Healey.
Dave the Renegade:
Carryfast:
Winseer:
Dennis Healey has passed today. HE understood. Labour’s last great Chancellor. I met him on a school trip to the Museum of London around 1978. RIP.
0He was actually instrumental in where we are now in his thinking that ‘inflation’ is wage led not price led.Thereby leading to the idea that prices can be controlled by holding down wage levels.Thereby catastrophically breaking the Fordist closed loop that was taking us forwards and which a modern industrialised economy depends on for its survival.On that note it was Shore not Healey who realised that it takes price controls to deal with a price led inflationary environment.Which of course conflicts with the idea of ‘free markets’.
Dennis Healey was the best Labour leader we never had, he should have been elected instead of Michael Foot. He would have been a strong leader, much better than Shore or any other Labour politician of his generation. A great shame. RIP Dennis Healey.
Exactly what was the difference between Healey’s economic policies v Blair or Thatcher.The fact is Healey was ‘in’ with the bankers and destroyed the unions by going to war with them in favour of ‘wage controls’ thereby destroying his own Party in the process.The result being,as I said,a post Fordist economy with no way of maintaining the link between incomes and demand and the rest being history.On that note it was game over for the economy,regardless who was running the place,while Callaghan was still in office. 
Pimpdaddy:
V40LLY:
More than likely, yes. You only get the odd incident like that in the busy Christmas period.It hardly says there’s a driver shortage, does it lol.
A driver shortage would be; half the transport companies HGV fleet parked up, every day-year round, with the shop shelves half empty.
By that point, the lorry driver’s wages would be going up and up. They certainly wouldn’t be £7, 8, 9, 10 (whatever), like they are at the moment.
I can’t see anything changing in the foreseeable future, that’s for sure!
+1, you’d think its the end of the world the way some people are banging on about it lol. Everything I want is on the shelf or its delivered on time, every time!
Some old fool, earlier on, was talking about his 2.5%, as if it was 250% [emoji16].
So, it probably added a few pennies more to his already pathetic, menial wage packet. Big deal! [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]
Hell! There must be a very acute shortage of Lorry drivers, eh. [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]
Perhaps, if someone on here started a thread on this forum, entitled: “Permanent job shortage for HGV driver’s”, I’d nod in agreement, as the low wages reflect that.
Lorry driver’s are 10 a penny!
An interesting conflict of opinion here…
You’ve got Carryfast - someone who has always seemed a bit “loony left” on here, and Myself - someone who’s so far refused to vote Labour his entire adult life.
If people like Tony Benn or Dennis Healey were running Labour now - I’d be voting Labour like a shot. Footy becoming leader effectively booted me out of the Labour party forever.
Even Corbyn cannot get me to walk back in as a newly recruited Labour supporter - unless he ditches ALL the residual daft ideas I still don’t support, or actually gets the mainstream party to value the opinions of someone like myself -that could be the very canidate type that a reformed Labour party seeks…?
As I said, the banks made fools of us all. “All” included Healey, who was right royally shafted by the banks in his own right.
Of COURSE their actions led to their own eggrandisment and Healey’s (and a ruling Labour party’s!) utter downfall.
We’ve still yet to recover. Corbyn needs to pick up that Tony Benn crusade against the Banks to be “radical” enough for the likes of me.
I have no desire merely to tax people who are not here any more, invite unlimited amounts of non or low tax payers from overseas, nor scrap our means of ever defending ourselves from foreign invasion forever.
In the 70’s, I felt as a growing up kid that the world of work was going to be a “Meritocracy”. How wrong I was - thanks to the changes that came about from the late 70’s (not 1979!) where we saw the rot begin in our town halls first. Everything from “Banning the cane” to “atheist creep” and “poltical correctness” rolled out from the town halls rather than central government, Bottom up. - Even stopping Thatcher’s “Bring Back Hanging” bill! Free vote? - Pah. Why couldn’t we have “Yes it hurt, yes it worked” over THAT issue eh? The same applies to the EU in-out issue.
A PROPER prime mininster won’t actually hold a referendum that could well be sabotaged by foreign enemy powers, banks, or even rival MPs.
A PROPER prime minister will just take us out as suddenly as Major put us in the ERM or Heath put us in the EEC - and make it “policy” to do so.
On this, one begins to understand why people voted for Cameron - who at least offers the small forlorn hope of suddenly swinging into the EU issue - but not Farage - who at best, will get a referendum that he might still LOSE. The longer it takes to have the referendum now - the more chance it has of being an “OUT” result, and therefore the actual hope we’ll ever GET this referendum - fades with each passing day.
“BY the end of 2017” we get told. Well, that means we could get to 31.12.17 and THEN be told “Sorry bud, I lied. I’ll be standing down in 2020 so you can’t punish me for it either.” by Cameron. THAT is what those who didn’t vote for him in May this year Expect now.