One of our lads has been pulled this morning… he has his C1 going back from 1984, but he only passed his C licence in August 12 - I have been letting him drive without even a 2nd thought - I was aware he had not done mod 2 and 4 - but my interpretation is that he held a C class licence so did not need to - same as if he had held his C before 2009, and did his C+E last year.
I have been told today that this is wrong - and he needs his inital DCPC card to be able to driver vocationally - (he was driving a class C vehcile)
Can anyone help point out where i have gone wrong ?
DCPC refers to LGV and not specific categories so he has DCPC aquired/grandfather LGV rights so must complete 35 hours of periodic DCPC training before 09/09/2014 if he wishes to drive LGVs commercially after that date
The DSA ‘system’ would not allow him to do the dcpc initial because he has aquired rights
I’ve just passed Cat C and have not done initial driver CPC (mods 2 and 4) as I passed my car test in 1992.
Before I started my training I asked a few places about doing the modules anyway as I thought it would be useful for me being a new driver, but I was told it wasn’t possible.
I wondering about the driver qualification card today actually - I assume that I will only get one after I’ve done my 35 hours, as I’ve not done the initial DCPC?
kevchalluk:
I wondering about the driver qualification card today actually - I assume that I will only get one after I’ve done my 35 hours, as I’ve not done the initial DCPC?
As a driver with aquired rights you do have a GHOST DQC now which is expiry dated 09/09/2014
The moment you complete the 35 hours and they are uploaded to the DVLA they will issue a new DQC expiry dated 09/09/2019
By someone with the power to pull trucks… all they are focussed on is the Aug 12 date against his class C - they are ignoring his C1 - I am hoping this is just a mis-understanding - I am waiting for an update.
kevchalluk:
I wondering about the driver qualification card today actually - I assume that I will only get one after I’ve done my 35 hours, as I’ve not done the initial DCPC?
Your DCPC card will come in the post when you finish your thirty five hours. It looks similar to your Driving Licence photocard but is blue.
From then on, you must have the card on your person if driving an in scope commercial vehicle for hire or reward.
Jenson Button:
By someone with the power to pull trucks… all they are focussed on is the Aug 12 date against his class C - they are ignoring his C1 - I am hoping this is just a mis-understanding - I am waiting for an update.
Police or VOSA ?
If you want the official response then call 0191 201 8112 DSA DCPC hotline
AlexWignall:
Your DCPC card will come in the post when you finish your thirty five hours. It looks similar to your Driving Licence photocard but is blue.
From then on, you must have the card on your person if driving an in scope commercial vehicle for hire or reward.
W
Cheers - I’m looking into making a start on it asap
Jenson Button:
By someone with the power to pull trucks… all they are focussed on is the Aug 12 date against his class C - they are ignoring his C1 - I am hoping this is just a mis-understanding - I am waiting for an update.
Police or VOSA ?
If you want the official response then call 0191 201 8112 DSA DCPC hotline
Thanks Rog - cannot get hold of my driver at the moment its just ringing out …
kevchalluk:
I wondering about the driver qualification card today actually - I assume that I will only get one after I’ve done my 35 hours, as I’ve not done the initial DCPC?
As a driver with aquired rights you do have a GHOST DQC now which is expiry dated 09/09/2014
The moment you complete the 35 hours and they are uploaded to the DVLA they will issue a new DQC expiry dated 09/09/2019
Did 21 hours ADR, in january,then 14 hours driver hours and ‘walk round checks’ and load security…which equalled 2 DCPC certificates,and a nice little blue card with expires 9/9/2019.
kevchalluk:
I wondering about the driver qualification card today actually - I assume that I will only get one after I’ve done my 35 hours, as I’ve not done the initial DCPC?
Your DCPC card will come in the post when you finish your thirty five hours. It looks similar to your Driving Licence photocard but is blue.
From then on, you must have the card on your person if driving an in scope commercial vehicle for hire or reward.
W
Really? I understand that once a digi card has been issued then you must carry it with you even when using anologue only, but I wasn’t aware of any requirement to carry your blue dcpc card prior to the cut off date.
I have mine, and admittedly I carry it with me, but only because it’s in my wallet and if I put it in avdrawer at home my gf would “tidy” it away. But I am willing to be corrected on the legalities of it.
kevchalluk:
I wondering about the driver qualification card today actually - I assume that I will only get one after I’ve done my 35 hours, as I’ve not done the initial DCPC?
Your DCPC card will come in the post when you finish your thirty five hours. It looks similar to your Driving Licence photocard but is blue.
From then on, you must have the card on your person if driving an in scope commercial vehicle for hire or reward.
W
Really? I understand that once a digi card has been issued then you must carry it with you even when using anologue only, but I wasn’t aware of any requirement to carry your blue dcpc card prior to the cut off date.
I have mine, and admittedly I carry it with me, but only because it’s in my wallet and if I put it in avdrawer at home my gf would “tidy” it away. But I am willing to be corrected on the legalities of it.
I admit I was told that particular ‘factoid’ on my DCPC course but the instructor (a semi retired Director of a respected local Haulage firm) was pretty hot on legal stuff like that.
If you think that you need to have your other cards on you (like your own example) I’m prepared to believe him, it’s not exactly a hardship is it?
The letter that came with my DCPC card stated that I did not have to carry it until 2014. I have grandfather rights. I do now carry it though, it’s not all that heavy.
Wayne:
The letter that came with my DCPC card stated that I did not have to carry it until 2014. I have grandfather rights. I do now carry it though, it’s not all that heavy.
correct but then they’ll want you to carry your licence! then your passport! then a biometric ID card when will it stop BIG BROTHER!