what Is the offence if caught driving without a cpc is it a fine,points,both anything enforceable, just a thought btw I’m doing my final module next week before anyone jumps to conclusions 
£50 fixed penalty for not carrying your valid card whilst driving “professionally”.
Up to £1000 each for both you and your employer if you do not hold a current valid dcpc qualification.
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside check
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside check
Rightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
nomiS36:
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside checkRightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
Excellent point. 
Just about sums it up.
Its not as if they could run a quick check to find out if you have completed this valuable piece of “training” there and then.
Has anyone ever been stopped and asked to produce their CPC card??
robroy:
nomiS36:
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside checkRightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
Excellent point.
Just about sums it up.
Could the same thing be compared to a driver aged 46 who failed to renew the medical at age 45 after driving lorries since age 21 so has not got a valid LGV licence 
- not a danger but illegal = YES
ROG:
robroy:
nomiS36:
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside checkRightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
Excellent point.
Just about sums it up.Could the same thing be compared to a driver aged 46 who failed to renew the medical at age 45 after driving lorries since age 21 so has not got a valid LGV licence
Nobody’s questioning the legality aspect of it, …more the true relavance, value, and reason for the dcpc. 
nomiS36:
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside checkRightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
The amount of sheer complete rubbish, especially over drivers hours, coming out of the mouths of those who consider themselves professional and the DCPC a joke when you’re doing a course and listening to them is truly mind blowing. Last one I attended we had a spot test on roadsigns, 20 of them, and most didn’t get 100% and they were hardly strange ones you never come across. So that was maybe 9/10 drivers who didn’t know enough of the Highway Code to pass a driving test. One of the signs several got wrong was the no motor vehicle one.
Conor:
nomiS36:
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside checkRightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
The amount of sheer complete rubbish, especially over drivers hours, coming out of the mouths of those who consider themselves professional and the DCPC a joke when you’re doing a course and listening to them is truly mind blowing. Last one I attended we had a spot test on roadsigns, 20 of them, and most didn’t get 100% and they were hardly strange ones you never come across. So that was maybe 9/10 drivers who didn’t know enough of the Highway Code to pass a driving test. One of the signs several got wrong was the no motor vehicle one.
Which all goes to prove this ‘training’ doesn’t work. I imagine most of not all of the participants that couldn’t identify the road signs on your course are already card holders and this is their second time round. So, if they ain’t got it by now, they are never going to.
nomiS36:
Conor:
nomiS36:
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside checkRightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
The amount of sheer complete rubbish, especially over drivers hours, coming out of the mouths of those who consider themselves professional and the DCPC a joke when you’re doing a course and listening to them is truly mind blowing. Last one I attended we had a spot test on roadsigns, 20 of them, and most didn’t get 100% and they were hardly strange ones you never come across. So that was maybe 9/10 drivers who didn’t know enough of the Highway Code to pass a driving test. One of the signs several got wrong was the no motor vehicle one.
Which all goes to prove this ‘training’ doesn’t work. I imagine most of not all of the participants that couldn’t identify the road signs on your course are already card holders and this is their second time round. So, if they ain’t got it by now, they are never going to.
The training works if it’s done correctly and people are prepared to listen.
Before they introduced the theory test drivers had to learn the Highway Code.
Now they learn what they need to know to pass the test then forget. Any so called professional driver that does not know basic rules should not be on the road.
Decent training with decent candidates works well but you will always get the ones with attitude who think it’s not important and can’t be bothered.
A far stricter driving test and a pass or fail theory test would get rid of the dregs.
Oh and redesign CPC completely also with the option of failing.
Conor:
nomiS36:
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside checkRightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
The amount of sheer complete rubbish, especially over drivers hours, coming out of the mouths of those who consider themselves professional and the DCPC a joke when you’re doing a course and listening to them is truly mind blowing. Last one I attended we had a spot test on roadsigns, 20 of them, and most didn’t get 100% and they were hardly strange ones you never come across. So that was maybe 9/10 drivers who didn’t know enough of the Highway Code to pass a driving test. One of the signs several got wrong was the no motor vehicle one.
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so how many did you get wrong yourself??..( awaiting preditcable answer) 
nomiS36:
Which all goes to prove this ‘training’ doesn’t work. I imagine most of not all of the participants that couldn’t identify the road signs on your course are already card holders and this is their second time round. So, if they ain’t got it by now, they are never going to.
So the training needs altering. You need to do specific core modules, for example drivers hours, and you need to be examined on them in order to pass.
dieseldog999:
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so how many did you get wrong yourself??..( awaiting preditcable answer)
You’re correct, I got 100% because I make the effort to learn and I know the value of education, you can spot the people who don’t a mile off in this forum and you’re one of those I expect that when they were at school didn’t bother that much. There were other things I did get wrong in that same module and I’ll be the first to hold my hand up and say that every DCPC I’ve attended I’ve learned something but then again I turn up with the attitude that I’m there to learn, not to just bang on about how pointless I may think the DCPC is whilst simultaneously displaying just how little I know like you do every time you do one.
halewood:
Has anyone ever been stopped and asked to produce their CPC card??
I have, but I’ll qualify that;;
Since the DCPC came in I’ve had 4 stops 1 police stop, and 3 DVSA. Only once have I been asked to show my DQC.
Conor:
You’re correct, I got 100% because I make the effort to learn and I know the value of education, you can spot the people who don’t a mile off in this forum and you’re one of those I expect that when they were at school didn’t bother that much. There were other things I did get wrong in that same module and I’ll be the first to hold my hand up and say that every DCPC I’ve attended I’ve learned something but then again I turn up with the attitude that I’m there to learn, not to just bang on about how pointless I may think the DCPC is whilst simultaneously displaying just how little I know like you do every time you do one.
My first cpc was fairly interesting. Kind of like a refresher for the things I’ve forgotten over the years. Whether those things were useful is another question, I’d forgotten the information because I’d not used it in years!!
The next three sessions, booked by my employer I learnt nothing. This is because my employer messed up and I did the the exact same course as the first one. Yet they all count.
In its present format, the cpc is worthless. I’ve got my card for five years despite effectively doing only two sessions. And those two sessions only taught me things that aren’t relevant to my work.
Thank god I didn’t pay for it myself.
halewood:
Has anyone ever been stopped and asked to produce their CPC card??
Yes but not at every stop some ask for it and some don’t, guess it depends on whether they can be bothered to look you up on the system or not, which proves the point that carrying the card is not necessary, obviously doing work outside the UK it is as they can’t access the UK system.
dieseldog999:
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so how many did you get wrong yourself??..( awaiting preditcable answer)
You’re correct, I got 100% because I make the effort to learn and I know the value of education, you can spot the people who don’t a mile off in this forum and you’re one of those I expect that when they were at school didn’t bother that much. There were other things I did get wrong in that same module and I’ll be the first to hold my hand up and say that every DCPC I’ve attended I’ve learned something but then again I turn up with the attitude that I’m there to learn, not to just bang on about how pointless I may think the DCPC is whilst simultaneously displaying just how little I know like you do every time you do one.
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thanks for the predictably ■■■■,knowall,condescendingly superior head up your own ■■■ answer.
i went to a fee paying school,got great qualifications,couldnt really be assed pursuing them as lorry drivng hooked me in at 21 by doing 1 year uka few saudi trips,then 10 years doing european work that i still do to this day as it gives me great amuselent from time to time,hence i run as bent as a banana and therefore have some satisfaction out of doing so part time.
ive ran and sold various companies,properties both in the commercial and private sector ad now enjoy a more than comfortable lifestyle passing my days to suit myself.
if i get a pleading call from someone needing a specific job done,then il do it if it suits me assuming its not uk work which i consider dung.
a quick blast abroad for my own rate of trip dosh plus 80 case of jp chenet on the bunks throws me an extra 500 quid metely for the effort f stopping for an hour to hit the supermarket…
no doubt im as overly educated and qualified as yourself being an ex squaddie now limping on a night trunk living next door to your local druggy,( junkie,or dealer, cant remember what you called him).
because you ive up your own ■■■ assuming others who have different lifes to yourself dont make them inferior to you despite your own assumed importance and superiority.
personally i think the dcpc is a complete and utter waste of time for all concerned though over here £100 bung and all the boxes are ticked without having to see a classroom…
I have just spent the entire week doing mine and I learnt a hell of a lot, mostly that DVSA have so much power and that I am not responsible enough to be driving really, the regulations and what is coming with the new tacho`s enables me to realise that I am getting out of it as soon as possible, no wonder young people do not want to do this job!
Conor:
The amount of sheer complete rubbish, especially over drivers hours, coming out of the mouths of those who consider themselves professional and the DCPC a joke when you’re doing a course and listening to them is truly mind blowing.
Yes, believe it or not some cretin claimed vehemently on TruckNet once that it could never be legal to have a reduced rest period on two consecutive weekends, and got abusive and insulting when it was pointed out to him (quite rightly) that you could.