Conor:
The amount of sheer complete rubbish, especially over drivers hours, coming out of the mouths of those who consider themselves professional and the DCPC a joke when you’re doing a course and listening to them is truly mind blowing.
Yes, believe it or not some cretin claimed vehemently on TruckNet once that it could never be legal to have a reduced rest period on two consecutive weekends, and got abusive and insulting when it was pointed out to him (quite rightly) that you could.
a quick blast abroad for my own rate of trip dosh plus 80 case of jp chenet on the bunks throws me an extra 500 quid metely for the effort f stopping for an hour to hit the supermarket…
happy days dd, 2 pallets of the bent neck stuff paid for my 900 turbo CASH
m.a.n rules:
a quick blast abroad for my own rate of trip dosh plus 80 case of jp chenet on the bunks throws me an extra 500 quid metely for the effort f stopping for an hour to hit the supermarket…
happy days dd, 2 pallets of the bent neck stuff paid for my 900 turbo CASH
p.s second hand
^^^^^^^
always a number 1 favourite at the right price…
40 cases on the to bunk,40 cases on the bottom bunk…nothing excessive,add on a quid a bottle for a bulk sale and instant 500 as your heading back out…and they still want to plob around the uk…
m.a.n rules:
a quick blast abroad for my own rate of trip dosh plus 80 case of jp chenet on the bunks throws me an extra 500 quid metely for the effort f stopping for an hour to hit the supermarket…
happy days dd, 2 pallets of the bent neck stuff paid for my 900 turbo CASH
p.s second hand
^^^^^^^
always a number 1 favourite at the right price…
40 cases on the to bunk,40 cases on the bottom bunk…nothing excessive,add on a quid a bottle for a bulk sale and instant 500 as your heading back out…and they still want to plob around the uk…
sshuhh dd we will be giving those who know better ideas…
I just finished mine yesterday, and got an e.mail today to say the upload system is bolloxed, and it won’t be repaired until the 9th September, coincidentally the same day my original runs out.
I am awaiting a new password to check mine online, to make sure all is kosher, but if what I was sent is true, I would be interested to see what would happen if I got pulled if it still wasn’t repaired by the 9th.
dieseldog999:
thanks for the predictably ■■■■,knowall,condescendingly superior head up your own ■■■ answer.
i went to a fee paying school,got great qualifications
Calling bollox. You can’t even punctuate a sentence to the level of a primary school child.
Quinny:
I would be interested to see what would happen if I got pulled if it still wasn’t repaired by the 9th.
Ken.
Just carry the five certificates you were given at the end of each module until your card comes, they are a valid “in the mean time” substitute…
Also it’s worth noting that your old card is now invalid and CANNOT be produced even though your old card is still technically “in date”, this is due to your latest full 35hrs starting from the course completion date (though it will still run out on the five year anniversary of the old card i.e. Sept 9th 2024). You HAVE to show either your new card or like I said the five certificates if you are stopped and asked.
ROG:
You can also be stopped from driving the LGV from the point where stopped if at a roadside check
Rightly so! Because anybody that’s only been driving LGV’s for 20 years but doesn’t have this invaluable piece of plastic on his whereabouts is obviously a danger to other road users [emoji57]
The amount of sheer complete rubbish, especially over drivers hours, coming out of the mouths of those who consider themselves professional and the DCPC a joke when you’re doing a course and listening to them is truly mind blowing. Last one I attended we had a spot test on roadsigns, 20 of them, and most didn’t get 100% and they were hardly strange ones you never come across. So that was maybe 9/10 drivers who didn’t know enough of the Highway Code to pass a driving test. One of the signs several got wrong was the no motor vehicle one.
Well I fall in the ‘‘I think it’s ingenuine ■■■■■■■■’’ camp as you are fully aware.
I know you are fully behind the dcpc,.and I suspect your ‘‘9 out of 10 drivers’’ estimate is a bit of an exaggeration, and the theory of them not being able to pass a test is just your own unqualified opinion at the end of the day.
Ok here’s an example, and I fully realise it does not have to be an either or situation necessarilly, but if I was an employer and 2 candidates applied for a job… one who knew the intracies of tacho rules, was a wizard on manual entries, and knew the 2 man rule outside out, to the extent of it being his ‘Specialist subject’ on Mastermind, but was not the best of drivers, or maybe just average let’s say fir argument’s sake.
Then the other guy knew just enough to keep himself legal on a need to know basis, and did not give a crap about the other ‘‘don’t really NEED to know’’ ■■■■■■■■, (a bit like me in fact) and had ‘‘done a bit’’ and was a bloody efficient driver, the sort who can find a back street in Warsaw without a sat nav (unlike some who can’t find the High street in bloody Walsall unless they have one ) I know who I would rather send out in my 100k+ Scania.
A Dcpc doth not a good driver make…I think Jesus once said it.
Last DCPC session I did, the instructor said that it has been calculated that 25% of drivers who need to renew their DCPC by September 9th won’t have done so, so it will be interesting to see what happens if this prediction comes true and all of a sudden, 100,000+ trucks are parked up for want of a driver. My prediction is that all of a sudden the DCPC won’t be quite as vital for road safety.
Where I worked I would have done two days of regular CPC , the company’s insurance company insisted on 1 day per year of driver education so the company turned it into CPC training. They actually sub let part of the office space to a training company. The renewal of ADR would take care of the rest of the DCPC requirements.
But after my health problems that started in 2017 I no longer have to worry about all that .
I would admit that probably 90% of the content of CPC or ADR courses had no relevance to what I did at work .
Just looking at the amount wrong information spouted on truck forums is proof that education is certainly needed but also what is obvious is that the standard of some of those providing the courses leaves a huge amount to be desired.
It doesn’t help anyone and especially those new to the industry that we have to get our heads around several sets of rules and regulations. Throwing the lot out and writing one set of simple straightforward rules would certainly help. For the sake of our sanity don’t let civil servants write the rules .
When i went back to the UK in June for a visit i met an old workmate i hadn’t seen for over forty years who’s retired now. He said here’s something to remember me by and handed me a card. He said it’s my DCPC card and i don’t want to see the ■■■■■■ thing again
£50 fine if you have all the JAUPT uploads done, and just didn’t have your card with you.
A far BIGGER fine - if you don’t have a blue card at all, and are being paid to drive.
I wonder what the chances are that your employer gives you the bullet, and thus you are not employed nor being paid by them when you got frisked for your blue card…
Quinny:
I just finished mine yesterday, and got an e.mail today to say the upload system is bolloxed, and it won’t be repaired until the 9th September, coincidentally the same day my original runs out.
I am awaiting a new password to check mine online, to make sure all is kosher, but if what I was sent is true, I would be interested to see what would happen if I got pulled if it still wasn’t repaired by the 9th.
Ken.
I got told similar Friday night,that DVSA system had crashed and nobody could do uploads.
The small fine is for having a card, and just not having it on you.
I don’t know how large the fine is going to be for “not bothering to GET a card” - except it is going to be a lot higher than £50 for merely “forgetting” to bring it with you.
I keep it with my licence & digicard, and carry it with me at work at all times.
Shouldn’t drivers actually go about getting their 35 hours completed, and their new card applied for in plenty of time?
I got my 2019-2024 card issued to me LAST YEAR for instance… It was “due” this coming week otherwise… There seems to be drivers about that are frantically trying to get one of even TWO modules down at what now is rather short notice, then the upload to JAUPT (usually done the same day as the course is attended), and then the card arriving in the post as issued by DVLA as soon as 48 hours after that. I did my last module on October 22nd last year, and my 2024 card arrived in the post friday morning.
Winseer:
Shouldn’t drivers actually go about getting their 35 hours completed, and their new card applied for in plenty of time?
Maybe, but then it is human nature to put off that which one does not wish to do for as long as possible.
Exactly.
That’s the reason I just got my last session of boredom and purgatory in last week.
Not exactly numero uno on my list of things to do.
Came just one step behind from washing my hair and cleaning out my belly button in fact.
Well, despite now being past retirement age, plus the fact that I have been saying for months that 9/9/19 was going to be my last day driving, I booked a couple of weeks ago for five modules .
So as from 0730 tomorrow morning I’m in Chelmsford every day for a different module. no frantic chasing around just phoned the first one on the list and booked. Do five, pay for four, seems a bargain at £260. Firm is going to pay once I stick the invoices in.
I only intend doing another six months more work if I am lucky.
Winseer:
Shouldn’t drivers actually go about getting their 35 hours completed, and their new card applied for in plenty of time?
Maybe, but then it is human nature to put off that which one does not wish to do for as long as possible.
Exactly.
That’s the reason I just got my last session of boredom and purgatory in last week.
Not exactly numero uno on my list of things to do.
Came just one step behind from washing my hair and cleaning out my belly button in fact.
I have two left to do, they are booked for Thursday and Saturday. I’m off work the following week so hopefully the card will turn up then. The only consolation is that I will only have to pay for one of the five days, although of course I’m going to miss a day’s wages on Thursday and my day off on Saturday.
) I know who I would rather send out in my 100k+ Scania.