Driver cleared

I cycle occasionally and would be classed as stupid to an extent - I don’t wear a crash helmet never have never will. I try to use common sense, if a hgv had passed me 10/20/200 meters up the road I would be sitting behind it waiting, as with the same driving attitude my old man passed onto me ’ expect everyone else on the roads are morons ’ with this in mind I have been either lucky or had common sense.

we went out last week done 26 miles mainly roads no issues single file (a big pet hate of mine is bikes 2 a side).

most of life is common sense I think due to the nanny state no one accepts any responsibility anymore for their own actions.

N0rbert:

Carryfast:
(…)That didn’t exactly answer the question.Bearing in mind that the type of anarchy among cyclists and bikers which you’re describing goes on all the time. :wink: :laughing:

We are really off topic now, but can we get back to the subject please?

Did you see the video I’ve posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XL_POF6ZoQ&feature=youtu.be&t=5m15s

As I’ve said I think the issue is all part of the same nutter zb mindset among the two wheeled road user group.Usually involving suicidal passing attempts of one sort or another.I’d guess that the issue of undertaking cyclists being taken out by left turning trucks etc will eventually be reduced if not sorted by education and/or casualty attrition.In just the same way that overtaking bikers being taken out by right turning vehicles is now gradually getting to be more a thing of the past. :bulb:

raymundo:
Maybe then you should have omitted the word EXACTLY and said AS IN SOME OTHER CASES

Albion was actually replying to a clearly made reference to the driver in question.I think we’re dealing more with a case of the two wheeled mafia in his case. :unamused: :laughing: IE the two wheeler is always in the right and if they get wiped out by a turning vehicle while overtaking or undertaking through a junction then it’s always the turning driver’s fault.

? ? ? ‘‘Albion was actually replying to a clearly made reference to the driver in question’’.

That’s what I thought but he said he wasn’t … so don’t get yer drift. But never mind.

raymundo:
? ? ? ‘‘Albion was actually replying to a clearly made reference to the driver in question’’.

That’s what I thought but he said he wasn’t

What he says and what he means are often two different things at least when he’s in the wrong. :wink: :smiling_imp:

OK gotcha now :slight_smile: (half asleep most of the time and now had 6 days of the second month back at work and all I do all day and half the night is sit on me arse doin nowt but go on my laptop)

Carryfast:
Feel free to tell us the different interpretations of ‘passed’ 200 m before the junction which wouldn’t have meant the cyclist wasn’t then behind the truck on the approach to the junction.

Fine, since you seem to be incapable of scrolling back up the page…

MrFlibble:
There are certainly some drivers who seem to think that they have “overtaken” a cyclist as soon as their wing mirrors have passed the bike’s handlebars, because that’s when they start pulling back in again.

Is that clear enough for you?

I could certainly envisage a scenario where a truck part-overtakes a cyclist in a cycle lane, but never gets fully ahead of them, because they’re held up by the traffic.

Carryfast:
So yes assuming a bus driver was stupid enough to undertake a left turning truck I’d have the same dismissive attitude.

In which case, we’d better tell all bus drivers that they can’t use any bus lanes because the truck to the right of them in the general traffic lane might decide they want to turn left, and according to “Carryfast-logic”, it will be the bus driver’s fault if the truck turns into his path, even if the bus gets level with the truck before the lights turn green.

As others have said, Carryfast, it’s your blatant hatred of cyclists that clouds your judgement. But, of course, you’ll never see that, because you’re never wrong.

Riding a bike on the motorway is illegal in the UK, and the Heathrow section of the M25 is one of the busiest stretches in Europe.
Last year, a Bulgarian cyclist was escorted off the M1 by police. He was attempting to ride to London after arriving on a flight at Luton Airport.

news.sky.com/story/1674355/cycli … row-on-m25 :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Riding bicycle on the highway, this is ludicrous, its illegal here as well, how he/she think is OK in UK.

Was he by any chance an agency driver in Bulgaria Dolph, if so that might explain it ? :laughing:

MrFlibble:

Carryfast:
Feel free to tell us the different interpretations of ‘passed’ 200 m before the junction which wouldn’t have meant the cyclist wasn’t then behind the truck on the approach to the junction.

Fine, since you seem to be incapable of scrolling back up the page…

MrFlibble:
There are certainly some drivers who seem to think that they have “overtaken” a cyclist as soon as their wing mirrors have passed the bike’s handlebars, because that’s when they start pulling back in again.

Is that clear enough for you?

I could certainly envisage a scenario where a truck part-overtakes a cyclist in a cycle lane, but never gets fully ahead of them, because they’re held up by the traffic.

Carryfast:
So yes assuming a bus driver was stupid enough to undertake a left turning truck I’d have the same dismissive attitude.

In which case, we’d better tell all bus drivers that they can’t use any bus lanes because the truck to the right of them in the general traffic lane might decide they want to turn left, and according to “Carryfast-logic”, it will be the bus driver’s fault if the truck turns into his path, even if the bus gets level with the truck before the lights turn green.

As others have said, Carryfast, it’s your blatant hatred of cyclists that clouds your judgement. But, of course, you’ll never see that, because you’re never wrong.

How have you jumped to the conclusion of the evidence saying the truck had ‘passed’ the cyclist 200 m before the junction to never having passed the cyclist at all.

While bus lanes don’t generally cross junctions for exactly that reason.Such as this example.Although admittedly that council at least is stupid enough to contradict that logic along that road by actually running a cycle lane across a similar junction before that one and the one opposite for example. :open_mouth: Probably based on the usual suicidal logic applied by the two wheeled road user group. :unamused:

google.co.uk/maps/@51.384024 … 312!8i6656

So yes assuming a bus collides with left turning traffic while undertaking it through a junction.I’d group that as being the same type of foreseeable result,of the typical zbwit driving habits,more usually expected of the two wheeled road user group.‘Two wheeled’ in this case obviously not just referring to cyclists. :unamused:

The facts in this case stating that the cyclist was behind the truck on the approach to the junction then somehow collided with the nearside of it at a junction while it was turning left.The issue of any cycle lane applying in this case being a bs red herring because at the point of the collision there was no cycle lane.While even if there was that would still say more about the stupidity of the road planners and the cyclist than the truck driver.

raymundo:
Was he by any chance an agency driver in Bulgaria Dolph, if so that might explain it ? :laughing:

Naah, not a chance, we don’t have such agencies like in UK. :grimacing:

I give up. It’s impossible to reason with moronic zealots.

MrFlibble:
I give up. It’s impossible to reason with moronic zealots.

I sympathise with you.

Carryfast:

albion1971:
Carry fast your judgement is clouded due to your hatred of cyclists like a lot of others on here.

I’d suggest that it’s your 'judgement that has been clouded by a seeming motorcycling background.In which case as I’ve said my use of mirrors has saved a few of those suicidal zb’s too over the years.The common link being an obvious attitude of two wheelers that says over take or undertake everything everywhere including through junctions and then blaming everyone else when correct use of mirrors still isn’t enough to save them from their own stupidity. :imp: :unamused:

Yes of course Carryfast I forgot you hate motorcyclists as well. You seem to forget motorcyclists are trained to a far higher standard than any car or truck driver.
Out of all the basic tests it is definitely the most complex.

I can honestly say I have never undertaken any vehicle when riding a motorcycle apart from law permitting situations.
Why do you not see a shrink about your problem? lol.

albion1971:

Carryfast:

albion1971:
Carry fast your judgement is clouded due to your hatred of cyclists like a lot of others on here.

I’d suggest that it’s your 'judgement that has been clouded by a seeming motorcycling background.In which case as I’ve said my use of mirrors has saved a few of those suicidal zb’s too over the years.The common link being an obvious attitude of two wheelers that says over take or undertake everything everywhere including through junctions and then blaming everyone else when correct use of mirrors still isn’t enough to save them from their own stupidity. :imp: :unamused:

Yes of course Carryfast I forgot you hate motorcyclists as well. You seem to forget motorcyclists are trained to a far higher standard than any car or truck driver.
Out of all the basic tests it is definitely the most complex.

I can honestly say I have never undertaken any vehicle when riding a motorcycle apart from law permitting situations.
Why do you not see a shrink about your problem? lol.

Can someone please shut this clown down, he has already spread so much BS in this forum that quality of this place will be soon considered…

Note for anyone who reads this clowns posts:
When you will go for HGV test this is how retarded your examiner might be so be prepared…

Motorcycle requires more skill than car and more physical input, and yes they tend to be better drivers, but to say what this clown states… that motorcycle test is by far hardest and requres byfar more skilll… :open_mouth:
There is no uncensored way how to describe this BS his typing in here…

albion1971:
Yes of course Carryfast I forgot you hate motorcyclists as well. You seem to forget motorcyclists are trained to a far higher standard than any car or truck driver.
Out of all the basic tests it is definitely the most complex.

I can honestly say I have never undertaken any vehicle when riding a motorcycle apart from law permitting situations.
Why do you not see a shrink about your problem? lol.

the standard of training can’t be too good

Deaths per billion road miles UK 2014
Motorcycles 113
Pedestrians 38
Bicycles 35
Cars 2
hgvs 0.9

source gov.uk

Bluey Circles:

albion1971:
Yes of course Carryfast I forgot you hate motorcyclists as well. You seem to forget motorcyclists are trained to a far higher standard than any car or truck driver.
Out of all the basic tests it is definitely the most complex.

I can honestly say I have never undertaken any vehicle when riding a motorcycle apart from law permitting situations.
Why do you not see a shrink about your problem? lol.

the standard of training can’t be too good

Deaths per billion road miles UK 2014
Motorcycles 113
Pedestrians 38
Bicycles 35
Cars 2
hgvs 0.9

source gov.uk

As I said two wheeled mafia who’ll defend each other’s suicidal anarchy on the roads regardless all based on their vulnerability.IE biker or cyclist overtakes/undertakes right/left turning car or truck etc through a junction it’s never the biker’s/cyclist’s fault it’s always the driver blamed for not using the mirrors.While vice versa then the blame will be reversed accordingly. :unamused:

On that note as I said in the case of the undertaking cyclist v left turning truck scenario we’re more or less where we were in the case of those Z 900 etc riding nutters getting taken out by right turning traffic while overtaking through junctions.I’d guess the reduction in that issue having more to do,with the casualty figures,reaching the point where they finally realised it was like playing Russian Roulette,with one empty chamber instead of one loaded one, than anything to do with their so called better ‘training’. :unamused:

Bluey Circles:

albion1971:
Yes of course Carryfast I forgot you hate motorcyclists as well. You seem to forget motorcyclists are trained to a far higher standard than any car or truck driver.
Out of all the basic tests it is definitely the most complex.

I can honestly say I have never undertaken any vehicle when riding a motorcycle apart from law permitting situations.
Why do you not see a shrink about your problem? lol.

the standard of training can’t be too good

Deaths per billion road miles UK 2014
Motorcycles 113
Pedestrians 38
Bicycles 35
Cars 2
hgvs 0.9

source gov.uk

Nothing to do with the training as I am sure you know. More about the rider and the dangers of cars etc that do not see them.

kyk:

albion1971:

Carryfast:

albion1971:
Carry fast your judgement is clouded due to your hatred of cyclists like a lot of others on here.

I’d suggest that it’s your 'judgement that has been clouded by a seeming motorcycling background.In which case as I’ve said my use of mirrors has saved a few of those suicidal zb’s too over the years.The common link being an obvious attitude of two wheelers that says over take or undertake everything everywhere including through junctions and then blaming everyone else when correct use of mirrors still isn’t enough to save them from their own stupidity. :imp: :unamused:

Yes of course Carryfast I forgot you hate motorcyclists as well. You seem to forget motorcyclists are trained to a far higher standard than any car or truck driver.
Out of all the basic tests it is definitely the most complex.

I can honestly say I have never undertaken any vehicle when riding a motorcycle apart from law permitting situations.
Why do you not see a shrink about your problem? lol.

Can someone please shut this clown down, he has already spread so much BS in this forum that quality of this place will be soon considered…

Note for anyone who reads this clowns posts:
When you will go for HGV test this is how retarded your examiner might be so be prepared…

Motorcycle requires more skill than car and more physical input, and yes they tend to be better drivers, but to say what this clown states… that motorcycle test is by far hardest and requres byfar more skilll… :open_mouth:
There is no uncensored way how to describe this BS his typing in here…

I think you are the clown. Illiterate is the word that springs to mind. I spent 20 years in training and know what is involved in these tests. How much experience have you had with car, motorcycle and LGV basic tests?
Tell me why you think I am wrong if that is possible but before you do maybe you should do a little research.

albion1971:
Deaths per billion road miles UK 2014
Motorcycles 113
Pedestrians 38
Bicycles 35
Cars 2
hgvs 0.9

source gov.uk

Nothing to do with the training as I am sure you know. More about the rider and the dangers of cars etc that do not see them.

No surprise they don’t see them when the zb’s often base their ideas of approriate speed on the basis of double it and then add 40.Often,as in the case of overtaking,where there’s a junction. :unamused: